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Upset Guesses (Nov 19)

What upsets are likely?

  • #16 North Dakota (7-3) at #4 NDSU (8-2)

    Votes: 20 57.1%
  • #11 Richmond (8-2) vs #8 W&M (9-1)

    Votes: 13 37.1%
  • Villanova (5-5) vs #20 Delaware (7-3)

    Votes: 7 20.0%
  • #19 Mercer (7-3) vs #9 Samford (9-1)

    Votes: 7 20.0%
  • W Carolina (5-5) vs #15 Chattanooga (7-3)

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Northwestern State (4-6) vs #5 Incarnate Word (9-1)

    Votes: 5 14.3%
  • Kennesaw State (5-5) at Eastern Kentucky (6-4)

    Votes: 8 22.9%
  • Stephen F. Austin (5-5) at Abilene Christian (7-3)

    Votes: 5 14.3%

  • Total voters
    35

IdaGriz01

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We have three ranked-vs-ranked matchups that I can use thus coming weekend. (Recall that I do not include Big Sky teams in the poll). All three offer credible chances for upsets. Beyond that, favored teams – most with chances for at-large bids – are not facing powerhouse opponents. However, it is those very playoff hopes that makes those other games interesting. Even when the underdog has no chance for a bid, I expect them to be highly motivated: To perhaps salvage a winning season and/or to act as a spoiler.

Two choices are allowed and you can change your vote(s) later if you want to.

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Commentary

North Dakota at North Dakota State is much more than a spoiler chance for UND. Of course, NDSU is surely in already, whether they get a seed or not. North Dakota, on the other hand, needs a win to get to (8-3) … which would guarantee them a bid. A loss pushes them into the (7-4) bubble pool … and we know all too well how that notion feels.

In one sense, the William & Mary at Richmond game is meaningless: both teams will get playoff bids. But both are (6-1) in conference, along with New Hampshire. Whoever wins here will, from what I’m reading, share the title with New Hampshire … if, as expected, UNH takes care of Maine (2-8) this weekend. I have no idea how the conference would allocated the auto-bid between a (7-1) Richmond/W&M and a (7-1) New Hampshire. (Nor does that really matter … if UNH goes to (8-3) overall, they will get a bid.)

The Delaware at Villanova game is a whole different kettle of fish (lobster?). Even if ‘Nova wins, at (6-5) they have almost no hope of getting an at-large bid out of the CAA. However, they would end with a winning season record and have the satisfaction of putting a crimp in Delaware’s chances for an at-large bid. A Blue Hen loss puts them in the (7-4) bubble.

Mercer at Samford is most crucial to the Bears, but Samford will not want to close the season with a home loss. The Bulldogs, with the tie-breaker over Furman, have already clinched the SoCon auto-bid and at least a tie for the championship. But they are only favored (Sagarin) by a field goal over Mercer. If they lost and Furman won (likely … against 3-7 Wofford), that would simply mean the Bulldogs would have to share the championship. A Mercer win would put the Bears at (8-3) and in the conversation for an at-large bid. A loss throws them into the (7-4) bubble … with very little chance for an at-large bid out of the SoCon.

That, of course, segues into the Chattanooga at Western Carolina game. The Catamounts have little to play for besides a home win that would give them a winning season record. And perhaps that will be enough, although the Mocs are favored by over a touchdown (Sagarin). But Chattie does badly need a win. They won against Mercer, but lost to Samford and Furman. A win puts them in the (8-3) conversation for a bid. A loss throws them into the (7-4) bubble … with, again, very little chance for a bid out of the SoCon.

Incarnate Word at Northwestern State is a bit weird, to say the least. Despite its strong record and high ranking, Incarnate Word is only tied for the Southland Conference lead. Their one loss was to Southeastern Louisiana, which also has a (4-1) conference record. A loss to the Demons would deny Inc Word the conference championship and the auto-bid. Still, at (9-2) and ranked all year, the Cardinals would almost certainly get an at-large bid. However, they would probably be out of the conversation for a seed. FWIW: We have seen Inc Word play several times now, and they’ve got some good players. Honestly, they should have no trouble with the Demons (whom we have also seen play). But they have shown a tendency to “play down” to an opponent, so a win is not at all a given.

Kennesaw State at Eastern Kentucky is important because of how it could impact the bubble team list. The Owls aren’t going anywhere … except into their transition to Conference USA. Yet Kennesaw is a tough competitor, and will want to finish with a winning record. On the other hand, Eastern Kentucky desperately needs a win just to get into the (7-4) bubble conversation. Their early upset of FBS Bowling Green (now 5-5) would certainly give them a talking point.

Stephen F. Austin at Abilene Christian is another strange situation, one that is not accurately reflected by the data posted on ESPN. According to the WAC web site, the teams are a game apart in the standings, not two as shown by ESPN. Thus, ACU is 3-0 in conference, while SFA is 2-1. (Apparently, while Sam Houston State is still officially part of the WAC, the conference does not include their games in figuring the standings.) So this game will be for the WAC championship, and nomination for the ASUN-WAC auto-bid.
 
I’m a bit surprised that no one has picked SFA to upset Abilene Christian. The ‘Jacks have more losses, but that’s at least partly because they played a somewhat tougher schedule. Also, back in early October, SFA beat ACU in a designated “non-conference” game.
 
North Dakota and Kennesaw. My ND relatives are not the pain in the ass the NDSU relatives are and I like to think Brian will do just like Furman and get away from the triple option. I think this weekend Kennesaw will be more comfortable with the RPO A-gap offense.
 
CatGrad-UMGradStu said:
North Dakota and Kennesaw. My ND relatives are not the pain in the ass the NDSU relatives are and I like to think Brian will do just like Furman and get away from the triple option. I think this weekend Kennesaw will be more comfortable with the RPO A-gap offense.
Query: How many are voting because they think North Dakota has a credible chance for an upset ... versus those who hope/wish that it could happen? :lol:

UND is not one of my picks, although I do think there is a credible chance for an upset. FWIW: I did pick Kennesaw (although that could still change).
 
IdaGriz01 said:
CatGrad-UMGradStu said:
North Dakota and Kennesaw. My ND relatives are not the pain in the ass the NDSU relatives are and I like to think Brian will do just like Furman and get away from the triple option. I think this weekend Kennesaw will be more comfortable with the RPO A-gap offense.
Query: How many are voting because they think North Dakota has a credible chance for an upset ... versus those who hope/wish that it could happen? :lol:

UND is not one of my picks, although I do think there is a credible chance for an upset. FWIW: I did pick Kennesaw (although that could still change).

Perhaps I think the Fighting Sioux win and hope they beat the hell out of the Buffalo? Then it's not wishful thinking. Kind of like I want Wyoming to stomp Boise, but then I have to step back and look at the young Boise quarterback...
 
IdaGriz01 said:
CatGrad-UMGradStu said:
North Dakota and Kennesaw. My ND relatives are not the pain in the ass the NDSU relatives are and I like to think Brian will do just like Furman and get away from the triple option. I think this weekend Kennesaw will be more comfortable with the RPO A-gap offense.
Query: How many are voting because they think North Dakota has a credible chance for an upset ... versus those who hope/wish that it could happen? :lol:

UND is not one of my picks, although I do think there is a credible chance for an upset. FWIW: I did pick Kennesaw (although that could still change).

I didn't pick it, but Hunter Leupke may not play this game, and I think the bizun lose if he's out....I could be wrong, but I just have never seen them so one-dimensional, and their defense is not good this year, not like years past.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
CatGrad-UMGradStu said:
North Dakota and Kennesaw. My ND relatives are not the pain in the ass the NDSU relatives are and I like to think Brian will do just like Furman and get away from the triple option. I think this weekend Kennesaw will be more comfortable with the RPO A-gap offense.
Query: How many are voting because they think North Dakota has a credible chance for an upset ... versus those who hope/wish that it could happen? :lol:

UND is not one of my picks, although I do think there is a credible chance for an upset. FWIW: I did pick Kennesaw (although that could still change).

In past years it would have been picking ND as a wish. This season I think there is a decent chance they could upend NDSU.
 
kurtismichael said:
IdaGriz01 said:
Query: How many are voting because they think North Dakota has a credible chance for an upset ... versus those who hope/wish that it could happen? :lol:

UND is not one of my picks, although I do think there is a credible chance for an upset. FWIW: I did pick Kennesaw (although that could still change).
In past years it would have been picking ND as a wish. This season I think there is a decent chance they could upend NDSU.
The Bison certainly do look more vulnerable this year. May come down to home field ... if a good crowd shows up. They've had snow in the area, and expect more, but I assume that won't deter a big contingent of UND fans.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
kurtismichael said:
In past years it would have been picking ND as a wish. This season I think there is a decent chance they could upend NDSU.
The Bison certainly do look more vulnerable this year. May come down to home field ... if a good crowd shows up. They've had snow in the area, and expect more, but I assume that won't deter a big contingent of UND fans.

Without Luetke playing, NDSU is certainly beatable.
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