Unique reason why Germer and Ferriter are important hires...

[uofmman1122]

with our current scholarship challenge, wouldn't one expect to lose more Montana kids and work on the best of the best in the state..ie bingham, ryan,.....quality over quantity.....seems like it is only the reasonable common sense thing to do....spend your scholarship dollars on the best bets the state has to offer, otherwise recruit better the out of state kid....

I dunno...

From the sounds of it, the out of state kids are worthless unless there are some hard-workin', boot-strappin', good ol' Montana boys to show 'em how to properly work hard and practice.

:roll:

I know this is hyperbole, and I realize the value of having the best Montana kids on the roster that we can get, but we seem to have been "losing the in-state recruiting wars" to the Cats for "years" now, and it hasn't really amounted to much of anything for them. We have a much better track record with walk-ons and under-the-radar Montana kids, anyways. Whatever we've been doing while simultaneously "losing the in-state recruiting battle" to the cats seems to be working out just fine. :|

Honest question: When was the last time we had a "blue-chip" Montana recruit that we stole from the Cats that ended up being a grand slam? I seem to remember all of our recent NFL and Griz great MT boys being guys we weren't super high on in the beginning.

 

[I.M.O.#90-C.C.]

with our current scholarship challenge, wouldn't one expect to lose more Montana kids and work on the best of the best in the state..ie bingham, ryan,.....quality over quantity.....seems like it is only the reasonable common sense thing to do....spend your scholarship dollars on the best bets the state has to offer, otherwise recruit better the out of state kid....

Krammer, you are right as we would all want quality and more impact players if possible with less schollies now. I think there are 6-7 players in state this year (whether full or half offers)that fit the category from what I hear and up till now, almost all (except Sandry) have either chose the cats or undecided and could go bigger like Ryan and Sims. My take is whether we get those kids or not (always going to lose some to cats) we usually win the "quality" walkon battle and from what I see, we have really lost those kids so far this year as well. I don't know where some are saying Griz have consistently lost this years in the past as I have never seen that before. Hopefully we get some commits in next month since we have new head guy/staff stable and can get that quality walkons when the money is gone whether in state or not.

 

[I.M.O.#90-C.C.]

with our current scholarship challenge, wouldn't one expect to lose more Montana kids and work on the best of the best in the state..ie bingham, ryan,.....quality over quantity.....seems like it is only the reasonable common sense thing to do....spend your scholarship dollars on the best bets the state has to offer, otherwise recruit better the out of state kid....

I dunno...

From the sounds of it, the out of state kids are worthless unless there are some hard-workin', boot-strappin', good ol' Montana boys to show 'em how to properly work hard and practice.

:roll:

I know this is hyperbole, and I realize the value of having the best Montana kids on the roster that we can get, but we seem to have been "losing the in-state recruiting wars" to the Cats for "years" now, and it hasn't really amounted to much of anything for them. We have a much better track record with walk-ons and under-the-radar Montana kids, anyways. Whatever we've been doing while simultaneously "losing the in-state recruiting battle" to the cats seems to be working out just fine. :

Honest question: When was the last time we had a "blue-chip" Montana recruit that we stole from the Cats that ended up being a grand slam? I seem to remember all of our recent NFL and Griz great MT boys being guys we weren't super high on in the beginning.

Coyle, Schillinger, Tripp, (not sure on Chase but thought he had money offers from both schools) are a few that come to mind. You are right that the walkons of Mariani, Colt, etc were ones that the Griz won those walkon battles with cats and are thankful for.

I had never really heard of many feeling the Griz losing the in state recruiting battle as a whole (full, partials, walk-ons) in recent years besides a few kids every year for various reasons that fit in those categories and choose cats.

 

[grizpack]

I think it is wrong to look past the programs offered by each school also. MSU has some of the desirable programs right now. The engineering school at MSU is a very big draw. The Pre-Med program. Very high placement rate, very good salaries, etc. About the only things UM offers over MSU is forestry, pharmacy and maybe PT (not sure if MSU offers pre-PT or not). While football is important to these kids, there are certainly a few that make a decision based on the career they intend to pursue. It isn't like the majority of them seriously plan on the NFL.

 

[Hammer]

another reason the hires of Germer and Feritter are important, as well as retaining Ty, Legi and Green is to keep the proper sentiment for the cats alive and well. I'm sure Stitt and his guys don't quite get it yet, but these guys will get them up to speed in a hurry. Losing to the cats is completely unacceptable and has to stay that way. No more of the Joe Glenn "its an unhealthy rivalry" BS. I want another streak!!

 

[Jaredkuehn]

Coach Hauck understands what it takes to win at Montana, this Stitt probably not so much, his hires were more of an accident than a hire with thought behind it.

It actually seems like a pretty calculated move by coach Stitt to me. I think he realizes the importance of the UM tradition and is attempting to round out his staff with some great old Grizzly names. I think his staff will resemble a nice mix of new blood and Grizzly tradition.

 

[Mousegriz]

So Brekke and Roderick are two recent MT POY's that are now on the Cats and we heard plenty about both when they signed. Two losses to the Griz and decent but not awe inspiring stats out of those two later......

Roderick in particular the supposed big time QB who left the state, then returned to be anointed possible big time QB for the Cats and if not surely a sure fire WR. He should have stuck to the bball court.

And won't look it up but recall the Cats starting "about no one" from Montana on their stellar defense last year.

Are they winning the MT recruiting battles in the papers or on the field?

 

[grizatwork]

I think it is wrong to look past the programs offered by each school also. MSU has some of the desirable programs right now. The engineering school at MSU is a very big draw. The Pre-Med program. Very high placement rate, very good salaries, etc. About the only things UM offers over MSU is forestry, pharmacy and maybe PT (not sure if MSU offers pre-PT or not). While football is important to these kids, there are certainly a few that make a decision based on the career they intend to pursue. It isn't like the majority of them seriously plan on the NFL.

Look at the MSU roster. Actually not a whole lot of engineer majors on there. Best Pre-Med placement in the state is Carroll. Majority of majors it is a wash. They will get engineers and architects. We will get Pharmacy, Forestry, PT, and likely pre-law.

 

[wbtfg]

I believe brekke is pre-pt.

 

[AZGrizFan]

So Brekke and Roderick are two recent MT POY's that are now on the Cats and we heard plenty about both when they signed. Two losses to the Griz and decent but not awe inspiring stats out of those two later......

Roderick in particular the supposed big time QB who left the state, then returned to be anointed possible big time QB for the Cats and if not surely a sure fire WR. He should have stuck to the bball court.

And won't look it up but recall the Cats starting "about no one" from Montana on their stellar defense last year.

Are they winning the MT recruiting battles in the papers or on the field?

In the papers and in monteisacharacter's head.

 

[cclarkblues]

another reason the hires of Germer and Feritter are important, as well as retaining Ty, Legi and Green is to keep the proper sentiment for the cats alive and well. I'm sure Stitt and his guys don't quite get it yet, but these guys will get them up to speed in a hurry. Losing to the cats is completely unacceptable and has to stay that way. No more of the Joe Glenn "its an unhealthy rivalry" BS. I want another streak!!

10 minutes at your tailgate will put his feet on the proper Griz vs Cat path.

 

[scarface]

Seems logical to me that what hurts us more than anything in the "in-state recruiting" battle is the loss scholarships. We have to be more creative unfortunately. I'm confident that there are a number of players that would've chosen Montana the last year or two if we had those extra schollies and were able to offer.

Seems to me that what hurts most is we have more talent on our team and in-state kids see the Cats as a quicker path to getting on the field....at UM they'd possibly have to sit, whereas at Bozo they'll get on the field much quicker. Bully for them.

or they want to get a better degree..

Really? :roll:

 

[Umista]

The recruiters talk to the moms and dads and the kids are also being talked to. Guess what? 90% of the players attend the parents choice! What the kids major in is pure BS 70% of the time. Remember talking to kids in their Frosh year? Many do not have a clue what to major in!

Some of us can't hit the target if it is 10 feet away. Good recruiters get the kids they want and that is how it is and has been since the beginning of time. Good coaches line up groups of kids and go after them, then they assign backups in case they don't get the number ones.

We have been out of sorts with such a sudden change in coaches etc. it is amazing we are even in the hunt for good recruits. Some of U should relax and wait until the Stitt hits the trail and gets after some good solid kids. First he needs to get a house, get moved, get kids in school and buy some food. We will not get all the good kids but we will get enough to keeps us going. Next year will be our year!

 

['68griz]

The recruiters talk to the moms and dads and the kids are also being talked to. Guess what? 90% of the players attend the parents choice! What the kids major in is pure BS 70% of the time. Remember talking to kids in their Frosh year? Many do not have a clue what to major in!

I would NEVER have interfered with where my daughter wanted to go to school. And, she did NOT choose the school that recruited her the hardest athletically. We just sort of sat back, watched, told her we couldn't afford any of them but would find a way to work it out for wherever she wanted to go. It all worked out quite fine.

 

[Alaska Griz]

I''ll have to see some tangible example of MSU's MT kids outplaying our MT kids before i can really put much energy into worrying about it. In the meantime if things hold up, we are about to potentially (on paper) sign one of the best recruiting classes in UM history. So as long as we are talking about paper, cheer up lads. We have more talent than MSU has currently and I see that margin growing.

Also, if there is an upcoming move-up, we will be only recruiting a couple MT kids per year. That's just the facts. I do agree about MT kids setting good examples of tradition, etc., but I think by and large we land more talented players than MSU, which is why we generally put the boots to them, and when they do beat us, they squeak by. I agree with Hammer, I want another streak, next year should be three in a row. If people want Montana to be a "big time" program, in state recruiting will necessarily become less important.

 

[grizpack]

The recruiters talk to the moms and dads and the kids are also being talked to. Guess what? 90% of the players attend the parents choice! What the kids major in is pure BS 70% of the time. Remember talking to kids in their Frosh year? Many do not have a clue what to major in!

I would NEVER have interfered with where my daughter wanted to go to school. And, she did NOT choose the school that recruited her the hardest athletically. We just sort of sat back, watched, told her we couldn't afford any of them but would find a way to work it out for wherever she wanted to go. It all worked out quite fine.

Here too. My son was recruited pretty hard by a school, where he really liked the Assistant Coach that was recruiting him. To the point where he was ready to sign. Then the head coach came in to "seal the deal". My son thought he was an asshole. Ended up going to my last choice as a school, but it all worked out.

 

[Hammer]

another reason the hires of Germer and Feritter are important, as well as retaining Ty, Legi and Green is to keep the proper sentiment for the cats alive and well. I'm sure Stitt and his guys don't quite get it yet, but these guys will get them up to speed in a hurry. Losing to the cats is completely unacceptable and has to stay that way. No more of the Joe Glenn "its an unhealthy rivalry" BS. I want another streak!!

10 minutes at your tailgate will put his feet on the proper Griz vs Cat path.

Pretty much!!! :thumb:

 

[spsyk]

The recruiters talk to the moms and dads and the kids are also being talked to. Guess what? 90% of the players attend the parents choice! What the kids major in is pure BS 70% of the time. Remember talking to kids in their Frosh year? Many do not have a clue what to major in!

Some of us can't hit the target if it is 10 feet away. Good recruiters get the kids they want and that is how it is and has been since the beginning of time. Good coaches line up groups of kids and go after them, then they assign backups in case they don't get the number ones.

We have been out of sorts with such a sudden change in coaches etc. it is amazing we are even in the hunt for good recruits. Some of U should relax and wait until the Stitt hits the trail and gets after some good solid kids. First he needs to get a house, get moved, get kids in school and buy some food. We will not get all the good kids but we will get enough to keeps us going. Next year will be our year!

Where did you get the stat 90% of athletes go where parents direct, and school and curriculum are not top priorities.

Case in point, the Tinkle athletes, both father and mother alum of the UM father employed by the UM , hello Stanford and Gonzaga, I'd say that was a good choice.

 

[THE BETCH]

You had me with "Tingle.

 

[UMGriz75]

...or they want to get a better degree..

Interesting note over at BN about the basketball team.

Huse leftovers.

Postby Anacomando on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:36 pm
Fish is in his first year and he has to go with Huse's guys for a while longer; the program is depleted but I think Fish gets them to a better spot. One huge problem other than talent is that the vast majority of these kids are majoring in University Studies. I can see that as a Freshmen or maybe a Sophomore, but this is practically the whole team. I've always felt that players reflect their coach and poor Fish has to deal with this disaster Huse created for at least another 2-3 years. This major shows the type of kid Huse brought in - didn't really work. Give Fish time and he'll get the Cats to a better spot.

"... other than talent ..." :twisted:

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One thing about recruiting the Montana kids, they're generally a smart bunch, overall they do well academically.