Two former Griz coaches headed in opposite directions

[Growler1]

Coaches don't "lose it" during their coaching careers. It's not like your good looks or sperm count.

Ahem: Jim Brandenburg.

Brandenburg didn't "lose his ability to coach". Please tell us how a coach manages to lose it? Brandy was one of the hottest coaches in the nation while at Wyoming. He signed a huge contract to coach at San Diego State, but inherited a bunch of thugs from the previous coach. He tried to discipline them. Brandy was a strict disciplinarian, who would not put up with the free reign that those players were used to from the previous coach. So, several black players boycotted the team. Brandy ended up getting fired because of it. It had absolutely nothing to do with his coaching ability. It was all political. Next.

Brandy didn't lose his ability to coach, but he very publically "lost it" in a confrontation with one of those players you refer to as frustrating him. He embarassed both himself and SDSU in what one could term a "Jimmy Piersal" moment, and was out of coaching in a New-York minute.

I know Jim very well, and have discussed the situation at SDSU with him. Bottom line is, he had some black gang banger thugs that he inherited from the previous coach, he tried to discipline them, and they turned on him. The university did the predictable and fired the coach, instead of getting rid of the players. Jim had many offers to become head assistant at big-time BB programs, but his experience at SDSU left him soured on college coaching, so he turned them all down and went into business. But, we were discussing whether a coach could lose his ability to be a good coach. I say B.S. to that. Brandy was a great coach, and a great recruiter too.

By the way, Jim recently lost his wife. He was, and is, a nice guy. He lives in Austin, TX.

 

[ordigger]

Ahem: Jim Brandenburg.

Brandenburg didn't "lose his ability to coach". Please tell us how a coach manages to lose it? Brandy was one of the hottest coaches in the nation while at Wyoming. He signed a huge contract to coach at San Diego State, but inherited a bunch of thugs from the previous coach. He tried to discipline them. Brandy was a strict disciplinarian, who would not put up with the free reign that those players were used to from the previous coach. So, several black players boycotted the team. Brandy ended up getting fired because of it. It had absolutely nothing to do with his coaching ability. It was all political. Next.

Brandy didn't lose his ability to coach, but he very publically "lost it" in a confrontation with one of those players you refer to as frustrating him. He embarassed both himself and SDSU in what one could term a "Jimmy Piersal" moment, and was out of coaching in a New-York minute.

I know Jim very well, and have discussed the situation at SDSU with him. Bottom line is, he had some black gang banger thugs that he inherited from the previous coach, he tried to discipline them, and they turned on him. The university did the predictable and fired the coach, instead of getting rid of the players. Jim had many offers to become head assistant at big-time BB programs, but his experience at SDSU left him soured on college coaching, so he turned them all down and went into business. But, we were discussing whether a coach could lose his ability to be a good coach. I say B.S. to that. Brandy was a great coach, and a great recruiter too.

By the way, Jim recently lost his wife. He was, and is, a nice guy. He lives in Austin, TX.

Sorry to hear about his wife. He was always a good guy from my memories back then.

 

[GrizLA]

The Cal Bears visited Utah last night led by Mike Montgomery who has his team close to winning the PAC-12
while Utah (whom they beat last night in SLC) has Larry K at the helm closing out on one of the worst seasons in anybody's memory. Did his predecessor leave the cupboard bare? Has he just lost the ability to coach? I saw his team on TV last week and even the PBP guy said the team didn't seem to play with any cohesion. Makes you wonder if it isn't going to be one stinker of a season and out for Larry. I've seem Mike's team a couple of times on the tube and they're solid. They could advance a few rounds in the Big Dance.

Just when I think you can't say anything dumber, you do. Nothing was left at Utah. The best player got hurt early (I think), and the LK had to kick him off the team later. He's a tough guy. He's cleaning house, and he will bring in better players next year. There is no way Utah would drop him after one season.

As I admitted, I didn't know the answer, but I'm so appreciative for your setting me straight. It's not every day one can benefit from the boundless knowledge of an officious Grade A blowhard like yourself.

When Cal is cooking on all cylinders they are good...very good...the PAC tourney is a real test..

 

[Growler1]

I've got an interesting Brandenburg/UM basketball story regarding how fate plays an important role in life. I had been a high school basketball coach in Ohio in the early 1970s, before moving back to Missoula to teach in 1974. I established a relationship with both Jud and Brandy by officiating their scrimmages, and several Griz frosh BB games (including two Griz/Cat frosh games). I was a high school BB official in those days, and in those days colleges actually had a freshman team. Jud wanted to develop a recruiting pipeline in Ohio, since Ohio/Indiana was such a hotbed of high school BB talent in those years. Since I had lots of coaching connections from my time as a coach there, I hooked Jud/Brandy up with several coaches in Ohio. UM was able to sign one kid from Dayton, a point guard named Chris Powers, who was the heir-apparent to Tom peck. Chris stayed only one year, then got home-sick and went back to Ohio. Jim Molloy actually got his open scholarship when he left. Molly was a non-scholarship walk-on until Powers left.

Several other Dayton-area players came to Missoula on official visits, including Mike Lee (signed with Dayton), Ben Johnson (signed with Middle Tennessee), Mike Schaeffer (signed with Wright State), and a 6'10" center named Keith Moon, who signed with Evansville.

I remember sitting in Jim Brandenburg's kitchen one evening (he lived on Keith in the University area), and Jim called Keith Moon following his visit to try to convince him to sign with the Griz. Keith had gotten down to two choices, UM or Evansville. The kid wanted to come to UM badly, but his parents wanted him to play closer to home so they could watch him play. He ended up signing with Evansville.

One year later, in his freshman season, he was killed, along with the entire Evansville team and coaches when their chartered plane crashed going to a road game. Fate is often cruel.

 

[Grizbacker1]

I've got an interesting Brandenburg/UM basketball story regarding how fate plays an important role in life. I had been a high school basketball coach in Ohio in the early 1970s, before moving back to Missoula to teach in 1974. I established a relationship with both Jud and Brandy by officiating their scrimmages, and several Griz frosh BB games (including two Griz/Cat frosh games). I was a high school BB official in those days, and in those days colleges actually had a freshman team. Jud wanted to develop a recruiting pipeline in Ohio, since Ohio/Indiana was such a hotbed of high school BB talent in those years. Since I had lots of coaching connections from my time as a coach there, I hooked Jud/Brandy up with several coaches in Ohio. UM was able to sign one kid from Dayton, a point guard named Chris Powers, who was the heir-apparent to Tom peck. Chris stayed only one year, then got home-sick and went back to Ohio. Jim Molloy actually got his open scholarship when he left. Molly was a non-scholarship walk-on until Powers left.

Several other Dayton-area players came to Missoula on official visits, including Mike Lee (signed with Dayton), Ben Johnson (signed with Middle Tennessee), Mike Schaeffer (signed with Wright State), and a 6'10" center named Keith Moon, who signed with Evansville.

I remember sitting in Jim Brandenburg's kitchen one evening (he lived on Keith in the University area), and Jim called Keith Moon following his visit to try to convince him to sign with the Griz. Keith had gotten down to two choices, UM or Evansville. The kid wanted to come to UM badly, but his parents wanted him to play closer to home so they could watch him play. He ended up signing with Evansville.

One year later, in his freshman season, he was killed, along with the entire Evansville team and coaches when their chartered plane crashed going to a road game. Fate is often cruel.

Could you name-drop any more Shorty? Trust me, anyone who knows you says you are the most insecure little prick they have every met. They say they will walk across the street to avoid your chump ass because they know how full of shit you are. Yeah, you were quite a recruiting pipeline. :lol: :roll:

 

[Growler1]

I've got an interesting Brandenburg/UM basketball story regarding how fate plays an important role in life. I had been a high school basketball coach in Ohio in the early 1970s, before moving back to Missoula to teach in 1974. I established a relationship with both Jud and Brandy by officiating their scrimmages, and several Griz frosh BB games (including two Griz/Cat frosh games). I was a high school BB official in those days, and in those days colleges actually had a freshman team. Jud wanted to develop a recruiting pipeline in Ohio, since Ohio/Indiana was such a hotbed of high school BB talent in those years. Since I had lots of coaching connections from my time as a coach there, I hooked Jud/Brandy up with several coaches in Ohio. UM was able to sign one kid from Dayton, a point guard named Chris Powers, who was the heir-apparent to Tom peck. Chris stayed only one year, then got home-sick and went back to Ohio. Jim Molloy actually got his open scholarship when he left. Molly was a non-scholarship walk-on until Powers left.

Several other Dayton-area players came to Missoula on official visits, including Mike Lee (signed with Dayton), Ben Johnson (signed with Middle Tennessee), Mike Schaeffer (signed with Wright State), and a 6'10" center named Keith Moon, who signed with Evansville.

I remember sitting in Jim Brandenburg's kitchen one evening (he lived on Keith in the University area), and Jim called Keith Moon following his visit to try to convince him to sign with the Griz. Keith had gotten down to two choices, UM or Evansville. The kid wanted to come to UM badly, but his parents wanted him to play closer to home so they could watch him play. He ended up signing with Evansville.

One year later, in his freshman season, he was killed, along with the entire Evansville team and coaches when their chartered plane crashed going to a road game. Fate is often cruel.

Could you name-drop any more Shorty? Trust me, anyone who knows you says you are the most insecure little prick they have every met. They say they will walk across the street to avoid your chump ass because they know how full of shit you are. Yeah, you were quite a recruiting pipeline. :lol: :roll:

Jealousy will kill you. But then, you've already got one foot in the grave from what i'm told. By the way Shane thinks you're an idiot too! :lol:

 

[PlayerRep]

This SL Tribune article says the Utah team has improved during the season and over-achieved. Had only 4 returners. A 7-footer got injured early and was lost for the season, and the best player got tossed off the team.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/utes/53607718-89/season-utah-utes-saturday.html.csp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Paytonlives]

Coaches don't "lose it" during their coaching careers. It's not like your good looks or sperm count.

Speak for yourself.

You shooting blanks?