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MBBALL TWO CENT THEORY

citygriz

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Well, it happened again against Lamar, one of those exasperating stretches where the devil puts a lid on the basket and we go five minutes--funny how it's always five minutes--without a score.

So here's my theory.

Big post players always have better shooting percentages than guards or forwards because--duh!--they're closer to the basket. A good big man should shoot in the 60 to 70% range. Shooting from longer range is often erratic, and even the great Steph Curry can go through shooting slumps.

Problem is, we don't have big post players, and haven't really during the entire DeCuire era, which is exactly the opposite of how it used to be with Montana basketball. Going all the way back to the Steve Lowry era, Montana has generally always had good post play, the while our weakness was always a lack of fast athletic guards.

Well, DeCuire stopped that by recruiting fabulous guards, starting with his very first recruit, Michael Oguine, and continuing with Rorie, Pridgett, Vasquez, Whitney and now the incomparable Money Williams, with three more stellar high schools guards slated to arrive next year.

But bigs? Sure, you can cite Bruenig (a Tinkle recruit), Akoh, Krslovic and now Sawyer but really, these guys are all in the 6'8 range, not the lithe nimble bigs we run up against in the Power Four games.

So what: So this: We simply don't have that reliable big who can get a close-in shot to break a drought. Within the Big Sky we get away without a quality big, and have the superior talent elsewhere to overcome these five minute stsretches when we're like nomads searching for water in the desert.

But step outside the conference, or take on a much higher seed at the BIg Dance, andd our lack of quality bigs becomes a glaring weakness. The only failure of the DeCuire regime.
 
An addendum to the above.

My other favorite team, the Warriors, is suffering the same problem. This is the team that brought in the concept of "small ball" thanks to their speed up and down the court and their "Splash Brothers" duo raining down threes on hapless opponents.

But what happened? Oh! The other teams caught up to the three ball. And even the bigs like Nikola Jokic and Karl Anthony Townes became adept at shooting treys.

The Warriors are now the smallest team in the NBA, and it shows, as when they get outrebouded by a Portland or a Utah, two pretty mediocre NBA teams. They may hope for a final championship ring for Curry but the most likely outcome is a struggle to even make the playoffs in a tough Western Conference.

Hi Griz! Hi Warriors!
 
Well, it happened again against Lamar, one of those exasperating stretches where the devil puts a lid on the basket and we go five minutes--funny how it's always five minutes--without a score.

So here's my theory.

Big post players always have better shooting percentages than guards or forwards because--duh!--they're closer to the basket. A good big man should shoot in the 60 to 70% range. Shooting from longer range is often erratic, and even the great Steph Curry can go through shooting slumps.

Problem is, we don't have big post players, and haven't really during the entire DeCuire era, which is exactly the opposite of how it used to be with Montana basketball. Going all the way back to the Steve Lowry era, Montana has generally always had good post play, the while our weakness was always a lack of fast athletic guards.

Well, DeCuire stopped that by recruiting fabulous guards, starting with his very first recruit, Michael Oguine, and continuing with Rorie, Pridgett, Vasquez, Whitney and now the incomparable Money Williams, with three more stellar high schools guards slated to arrive next year.

But bigs? Sure, you can cite Bruenig (a Tinkle recruit), Akoh, Krslovic and now Sawyer but really, these guys are all in the 6'8 range, not the lithe nimble bigs we run up against in the Power Four games.

So what: So this: We simply don't have that reliable big who can get a close-in shot to break a drought. Within the Big Sky we get away without a quality big, and have the superior talent elsewhere to overcome these five minute stsretches when we're like nomads searching for water in the desert.

But step outside the conference, or take on a much higher seed at the BIg Dance, andd our lack of quality bigs becomes a glaring weakness. The only failure of the DeCuire regime.
Absolutely spot on analysis. Couldn't agree more. I know he wasn't "big" but he had big man footwork and fundamental post moves but was cast aside: Zack Davidson. He is having a huge season so far at NAU. But we have not had a real post player since Bruenig.
 
An addendum to the above.

My other favorite team, the Warriors, is suffering the same problem. This is the team that brought in the concept of "small ball" thanks to their speed up and down the court and their "Splash Brothers" duo raining down threes on hapless opponents.

But what happened? Oh! The other teams caught up to the three ball. And even the bigs like Nikola Jokic and Karl Anthony Townes became adept at shooting treys.

The Warriors are now the smallest team in the NBA, and it shows, as when they get outrebouded by a Portland or a Utah, two pretty mediocre NBA teams. They may hope for a final championship ring for Curry but the most likely outcome is a struggle to even make the playoffs in a tough Western Conference.

Hi Griz! Hi Warriors!
How many words and name changes did you go through to figure all this out?
 
So here's my theory.

Big post players always have better shooting percentages than guards or forwards because--duh!--they're closer to the basket. A good big man should shoot in the 60 to 70% range. Shooting from longer range is often erratic, and even the great Steph Curry can go through shooting slumps.

Problem is, we don't have big post players, and haven't really during the entire DeCuire era, which is exactly the opposite of how it used to be with Montana basketball. Going all the way back to the Steve Lowry era, Montana has generally always had good post play, the while our weakness was always a lack of fast athletic guards.
Describe the "big post players" that you want the Griz to recruit and a current college player that fits your description.
 
Okay, three categories: Former Griz; recent opponents; next opponents.

Former Griz: I concede a long stretch, 40 years, but how about Larry Kystkowiak, Darren Englelant, Brian Qvale, Derek Selvig, Andrew Strait, Martin Bruenig. I might also thrown in Jordan Hasquet. All big. All guys who could get you a bucket. (I had seats with my Tarheel bud to watch Qvale and Selvig dominate UCLA in Pauley Pavilion, and another to watch Andrew Strait absolutely befuddle Stanford at Maples Pavillion.)

Recent Opponents: How about Jabile Belo or Great Osobor from Montana State. Both Brits but so what? Are we gonna say it's not fair to bring in international players?

Next Opponents: Let's have a look next Wednesday at Noah Fedderson from North Dakota State. He's still raw but we all know it takes more time for bigs to develop than for guards. Then later let's have a look at Zack Davidson. Not your classic big but a sophomore who seems to be developing beautifully at Northern Arizona.

Finally: To throw the ball back in your court. The best bigs you say DeCuire has recruited and devleoped in ten years at Montana.
 
Okay, three categories: Former Griz; recent opponents; next opponents.

Former Griz: I concede a long stretch, 40 years, but how about Larry Kystkowiak, Darren Englelant, Brian Qvale, Derek Selvig, Andrew Strait, Martin Bruenig. I might also thrown in Jordan Hasquet. All big. All guys who could get you a bucket. (I had seats with my Tarheel bud to watch Qvale and Selvig dominate UCLA in Pauley Pavilion, and another to watch Andrew Strait absolutely befuddle Stanford at Maples Pavillion.)

Recent Opponents: How about Jabile Belo or Great Osobor from Montana State. Both Brits but so what? Are we gonna say it's not fair to bring in international players?

Next Opponents: Let's have a look next Wednesday at Noah Fedderson from North Dakota State. He's still raw but we all know it takes more time for bigs to develop than for guards. Then later let's have a look at Zack Davidson. Not your classic big but a sophomore who seems to be developing beautifully at Northern Arizona.

Finally: To throw the ball back in your court. The best bigs you say DeCuire has recruited and devleoped in ten years at Montana.
Thanks for providing the examples, even if some of them are 20+ years away from playing college ball. Can you also describe the big post player you have in mind?
 
No, I feel I’ve made my point by example. I await your assessment of DeCuire’s ability to recruit bigger players.
 
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