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Tripp fighting for starting job in Miami

Griz90

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FROM THE PALM BEACH POST:
If the Dolphins current starting linebacker corps of Koa Misi, Dannell Ellerbe and Philip Wheeler don’t improve their tackling, a lineup change could be coming.
And if that happens, rookie fifth-round draft choice Jordan Tripp could have a realistic opportunity to work his way into a starting role.
Tripp was an outside linebacker at Montana but the Dolphins have been working him at both middle and outside linebacker with the Dolphins. The team has been putting an emphasis on middle linebacker because they believe he can excel there.
“Nobody has nailed down a spot as far as I’m concerned,” Dolphins linebackers coach Mark Duffner told the Palm Beach Post. “Tackling is something we’re certainly putting a priority on. You can’t play defense if you cant tackle — it’s probably our No. 1 fundamental that has to be done.”
Miami’s starting linebackers played just one drive in Friday’s preseason loss to Atlanta and it didn’t go well. Wheeler, who struggled with missed tackles last year, was the game’s second-lowest graded player by Pro Football Focus. He was ranked as the NFL’s worst outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense last season.
Although all the spots could be up for grabs, Wheeler would seem like the most logical player to be replaced if the team can’t solve it’s tackling woes.
If Wheeler, Miami’s starting strong side linebacker, is removed from the starting lineup the team could go in a couple of directions. They could start second-year linebacker Jelani Jenkins or Tripp on the strong side and keep Misi at middle linebacker.
Or they could move Misi back to the strong side (where he excelled last year) and make Tripp the middle linebacker.
Duffner said it’s not unfathomable to think a linebacker from a small school could start as a rookie. Justin Durant, out of Hampton, started for Duffner as a rookie in Jacksonville in 2007 although he was a more highly hyped college prospect and was drafted in the second round.
“I’m not as overly concerned about that, the small school or not,” Duffner said. “They had to be highly competitive where they were.”
The Dolphins played Tripp at middle and outside linebacker in base and sub packages on Friday. Playing against both Atlanta’s second and third team units, Tripp graded as the team’s fourth-best player. He graded especially well in run defense and was solid in pass coverage.
“He had the most multiple roles of any player in the game and the game plan was to see if he could handle those responsibilities,” Duffner said. “The good news about it is that he didn’t back down from it. He’s a highly competitive guy and he did see reps against their second group. It didn’t appear like it’s too big for him right now and we’re going to continue to see his ability to make plays.”
Tripp considered his debut performance “good” but said he left a few plays on the field including a potential interception late in the game.
He said he feels comfortable as a middle linebacker.
“I love the system,” Tripp said. “The more comfortable I get, the faster I’m going to play.”
Of course, there’s the money factor. Ellerbe ($6 million) and Wheeler ($5 million) are among the team’s highest paid players this season and the team might find it tough to bench such highly paid players.
But both players could be released after the 2014 season with a relatively small cap hit, and if the tackling issues continue, the team could decide to make a lineup change this season regardless of the salaries.
Duffner said he also likes the development of undrafted rookie linebacker Chris McCain.
“He’s got real good athletic ability for a rookie and he’s got length,” Duffner said. “So far he’s distinguished himself with some flash making plays in practice. We need more consistency out of all our players, him being one of them. But he’s got some versatility that’s valuable for the team.”
 
Griz90 said:
FROM THE PALM BEACH POST:
If the Dolphins current starting linebacker corps of Koa Misi, Dannell Ellerbe and Philip Wheeler don’t improve their tackling, a lineup change could be coming.
And if that happens, rookie fifth-round draft choice Jordan Tripp could have a realistic opportunity to work his way into a starting role.
Tripp was an outside linebacker at Montana but the Dolphins have been working him at both middle and outside linebacker with the Dolphins. The team has been putting an emphasis on middle linebacker because they believe he can excel there.
“Nobody has nailed down a spot as far as I’m concerned,” Dolphins linebackers coach Mark Duffner told the Palm Beach Post. “Tackling is something we’re certainly putting a priority on. You can’t play defense if you cant tackle — it’s probably our No. 1 fundamental that has to be done.”
Miami’s starting linebackers played just one drive in Friday’s preseason loss to Atlanta and it didn’t go well. Wheeler, who struggled with missed tackles last year, was the game’s second-lowest graded player by Pro Football Focus. He was ranked as the NFL’s worst outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense last season.
Although all the spots could be up for grabs, Wheeler would seem like the most logical player to be replaced if the team can’t solve it’s tackling woes.
If Wheeler, Miami’s starting strong side linebacker, is removed from the starting lineup the team could go in a couple of directions. They could start second-year linebacker Jelani Jenkins or Tripp on the strong side and keep Misi at middle linebacker.
Or they could move Misi back to the strong side (where he excelled last year) and make Tripp the middle linebacker.
Duffner said it’s not unfathomable to think a linebacker from a small school could start as a rookie. Justin Durant, out of Hampton, started for Duffner as a rookie in Jacksonville in 2007 although he was a more highly hyped college prospect and was drafted in the second round.
“I’m not as overly concerned about that, the small school or not,” Duffner said. “They had to be highly competitive where they were.”
The Dolphins played Tripp at middle and outside linebacker in base and sub packages on Friday. Playing against both Atlanta’s second and third team units, Tripp graded as the team’s fourth-best player. He graded especially well in run defense and was solid in pass coverage.
“He had the most multiple roles of any player in the game and the game plan was to see if he could handle those responsibilities,” Duffner said. “The good news about it is that he didn’t back down from it. He’s a highly competitive guy and he did see reps against their second group. It didn’t appear like it’s too big for him right now and we’re going to continue to see his ability to make plays.”
Tripp considered his debut performance “good” but said he left a few plays on the field including a potential interception late in the game.
He said he feels comfortable as a middle linebacker.
“I love the system,” Tripp said. “The more comfortable I get, the faster I’m going to play.”
Of course, there’s the money factor. Ellerbe ($6 million) and Wheeler ($5 million) are among the team’s highest paid players this season and the team might find it tough to bench such highly paid players.
But both players could be released after the 2014 season with a relatively small cap hit, and if the tackling issues continue, the team could decide to make a lineup change this season regardless of the salaries.
Duffner said he also likes the development of undrafted rookie linebacker Chris McCain.
“He’s got real good athletic ability for a rookie and he’s got length,” Duffner said. “So far he’s distinguished himself with some flash making plays in practice. We need more consistency out of all our players, him being one of them. But he’s got some versatility that’s valuable for the team.”

"Tackling is our number one priority. You can't play defense if you can't tackle". Wow, what a concept. It looks like Tripp has a good opportunity. Good job Jordan!
 
Here we have multimillion dollar players being cut because of "tackling" and in grizville we have screams for a defensive coordinator to be sent packing along with his players because of tackling.......
 
tnt said:
Here we have multimillion dollar players being cut because of "tackling" and in grizville we have screams for a defensive coordinator to be sent packing along with his players because of tackling.......
What??!!
 
tnt said:
Here we have multimillion dollar players being cut because of "tackling" and in grizville we have screams for a defensive coordinator to be sent packing along with his players because of tackling.......

Last spring the coaching staff purchased some sort of new tackling machine. Results were very positive based on drastically improved tackling during spring camp. Tackling has been an issue in the past, but it is expected to be improved due to a greater focus on form and this training aid. There was a great article in the Missoulian or gogriz.com about the tackling last spring, but I can't seem to find it now.
 
go96griz said:
tnt said:
Here we have multimillion dollar players being cut because of "tackling" and in grizville we have screams for a defensive coordinator to be sent packing along with his players because of tackling.......

Last spring the coaching staff purchased some sort of new tackling machine. Results were very positive based on drastically improved tackling during spring camp. Tackling has been an issue in the past, but it is expected to be improved due to a greater focus on form and this training aid. There was a great article in the Missoulian or gogriz.com about the tackling last spring, but I can't seem to find it now.

Yeah I seem do remember that. I do know tackling was a major goal in spring camp and it worked to that end. The new tackling rules last year I'm sure were an issue at least part of the year.
 
go96griz said:
tnt said:
Here we have multimillion dollar players being cut because of "tackling" and in grizville we have screams for a defensive coordinator to be sent packing along with his players because of tackling.......

Last spring the coaching staff purchased some sort of new tackling machine. Results were very positive based on drastically improved tackling during spring camp. Tackling has been an issue in the past, but it is expected to be improved due to a greater focus on form and this training aid. There was a great article in the Missoulian or gogriz.com about the tackling last spring, but I can't seem to find it now.

The game film from CC and EWU would cause any coaching staff to invest money in a tackling machine. Now if somebody could just teach the players how to run good angles and how to breakdown correctly they'd be on to something.
 
CV Griz Fan said:
The game film from CC and EWU would cause any coaching staff to invest money in a tackling machine. Now if somebody could just teach the players how to run good angles and how to breakdown correctly they'd be on to something.
Over the years, nothing has driven me crazier than watching NFL football players (forget college) who don't know how to "form" tackle. So many of these guy were so big and strong in HS and college, all they had to do was blast an opponent with a chest or hip to get a knock-down ... they never learned how to actually tackle.

Although I never played anything but intramural football in HS, our PE coach taught us how to tackle, admittedly on a tumbling/wrestling mat. (He was a "retired" US Marine ... there's really no such thing as a "former" Marine.) We took turns being the runner or tackler, so we learned angles and hitting a moving target. (A Hell of a lot more fun and interesting than calisthenics). It's not rocket science!
Oh well, it does take some study and practice [practice!?], so I guess you can't be bothered when you're an "elite" athlete.
 
Yeah, IDA... In HS, if we missed a tackle or didn't wrap, they made us ankle tackle in a drill... Flat on your back trying to grab while somebody is running full speed... Most of the time, you just got kicked in the hand or wrist, which obviously wasn't fun...

We got the point quickly
 
Cuervohola said:
Yeah, IDA... In HS, if we missed a tackle or didn't wrap, they made us ankle tackle in a drill... Flat on your back trying to grab while somebody is running full speed... Most of the time, you just got kicked in the hand or wrist, which obviously wasn't fun...

We got the point quickly

Yes. At Butte High in the late 70's if you missed a tackle or didn't wrap up you sat, were ridiculed, duck walked and extra drills for everyone. Trust me - you learned quickly not to miss a tackle - there were no excuses.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
CV Griz Fan said:
The game film from CC and EWU would cause any coaching staff to invest money in a tackling machine. Now if somebody could just teach the players how to run good angles and how to breakdown correctly they'd be on to something.
Over the years, nothing has driven me crazier than watching NFL football players (forget college) who don't know how to "form" tackle. So many of these guy were so big and strong in HS and college, all they had to do was blast an opponent with a chest or hip to get a knock-down ... they never learned how to actually tackle.

Although I never played anything but intramural football in HS, our PE coach taught us how to tackle, admittedly on a tumbling/wrestling mat. (He was a "retired" US Marine ... there's really no such thing as a "former" Marine.) We took turns being the runner or tackler, so we learned angles and hitting a moving target. (A Hell of a lot more fun and interesting than calisthenics). It's not rocket science!
Oh well, it does take some study and practice [practice!?], so I guess you can't be bothered when you're an "elite" athlete.
"Form" tackling is not what it used to be. Teams are moving towards rugby style tackles in an effort to take the head out of the game, reducing penalties and injuries. Watch the Seahawks tackle. It is amazing what they do. I'm a huge Denver fan, but Seattle tackling was the best I have seen in a very, very long time, if not ever. Pete Carroll made a video about their techniques and has distributed it to thousands of high school and youth programs around the country. I've watched it. I thought the game was softening and becoming less about contact, but after watching the video I have a renewed optimism about the future of football. It is all about shoulder contact and no longer facemask through the football like I was taught. I will be teaching this to the team I have been coaching for years.
 
Pin2Win said:
IdaGriz01 said:
CV Griz Fan said:
The game film from CC and EWU would cause any coaching staff to invest money in a tackling machine. Now if somebody could just teach the players how to run good angles and how to breakdown correctly they'd be on to something.
Over the years, nothing has driven me crazier than watching NFL football players (forget college) who don't know how to "form" tackle. So many of these guy were so big and strong in HS and college, all they had to do was blast an opponent with a chest or hip to get a knock-down ... they never learned how to actually tackle.

Although I never played anything but intramural football in HS, our PE coach taught us how to tackle, admittedly on a tumbling/wrestling mat. (He was a "retired" US Marine ... there's really no such thing as a "former" Marine.) We took turns being the runner or tackler, so we learned angles and hitting a moving target. (A Hell of a lot more fun and interesting than calisthenics). It's not rocket science!
Oh well, it does take some study and practice [practice!?], so I guess you can't be bothered when you're an "elite" athlete.
"Form" tackling is not what it used to be. Teams are moving towards rugby style tackles in an effort to take the head out of the game, reducing penalties and injuries. Watch the Seahawks tackle. It is amazing what they do. I'm a huge Denver fan, but Seattle tackling was the best I have seen in a very, very long time, if not ever. Pete Carroll made a video about their techniques and has distributed it to thousands of high school and youth programs around the country. I've watched it. I thought the game was softening and becoming less about contact, but after watching the video I have a renewed optimism about the future of football. It is all about shoulder contact and no longer facemask through the football like I was taught. I will be teaching this to the team I have been coaching for years.
Being really old, I must have missed the "facemask through the football" training era. We were told to "put your shoulder into it." It was about setting your feet properly to balance your weight, getting low for leverage, wrapping up, and driving (your shoulder) through the ball-carrier. Except for the positioning of the head (straight on vs "leading" with the shoulder), I don't think the fundamentals have changed drastically. We were also taught to lift the runner off the ground, when possible -- don't care how powerful your legs are, you can't go anywhere pushing on air. :lol:
(Actually, I just went downstairs and looked at my HS yearbook. Sure enough, the "facemasks" were a single dinky bar that -- maybe -- protected your mouth from a direct shot. ;) )
 
BTW, the discussions about tackling are fun ... but the best part of this thread might be the title. :D

"Tripping fighting for a starting job in Miami" ... not just "fighting for a job."
 
I played ball in the late 80's and early 90's. Was never taught to lead with the head so not sure where that came from. We were told to try and get the helmet on the ball if possible but never taught to lower our heads. It was always heads up and drive with your arms. I don't think proper tackling technique has changed. I think that kids doing what they thought was cool has been the change. Individuals deciding that they would tackle how they wanted to in order to look good is the major issue. Just my opinion v
 
IdaGriz01 said:
BTW, the discussions about tackling are fun ... but the best part of this thread might be the title. :D

"Tripping fighting for a starting job in Miami" ... not just "fighting for a job."
Yeah, I like this too. Sounds like those in the know believe he has already "made the team," and is competing for something bigger. Go, JT.
 
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