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Top 10 Senior QBs Entering 2016 Season

Eriul said:
I dunno about most atheletic but he is the best qb on the roster hands down. He's had some bad games but we've also had a horrible o line the whole time. A bad o-line will make a good qb look bad and a good oline will make a bad qb look good. Theres plenty of examples of this even at the pro level. I would not be the least bit shocked if he has a breakout year and is one of the best FCS players next year.

sounds like you're counting on some pretty stellar offensive line play...
 
BozAngelesGriz said:
Eriul said:
I dunno about most atheletic but he is the best qb on the roster hands down. He's had some bad games but we've also had a horrible o line the whole time. A bad o-line will make a good qb look bad and a good oline will make a bad qb look good. Theres plenty of examples of this even at the pro level. I would not be the least bit shocked if he has a breakout year and is one of the best FCS players next year.

sounds like you're counting on some pretty stellar offensive line play...


Gus was having a good year before the injury and that's with the oline last year. I think with a whole offseason and an improved O line we will see. It would be very difficult to find a worse O line then our line last year.
 
krammer said:
AZGrizFan said:
krammer said:
I agree, why the animosity?.... because he is a montana kid and could not possibly be that good?.... same build and size of another Montana kid qb that is now a multi millionaire .... also a cerebral kid like that other kid form Montana....his arm strength is way above average, if you have ever seen him throw from the near hash on12 yard out to the far sideline, on a rope.. he can really spin it.........I think he will be just fine and we are fortunate to have him at u of Montana...imo no doubt who will be the starter next fall....

I'm the same size as Kroy Biermann. That doesn't make me an NFL Defensive End.


azgrizfan.....I don't understand your vitriol but you are making my point.........i almost always agree with your analysis on this areas of discussion on e-griz, .... your comment is surprising to me, when one looks at what i said in a logical manner vs cherry picking one sentience that is taking the whole discussion out of context.....anyway, i hope the best for all the qbs and if one is better than gus, then we are going to be great at that position, i think we can agree on that.....go griz !

It's not vitriol. It's fact. Gus is a nice FCS QB and yes, we are fortunate to have him at Montana. But I saw faaaaaaar to many instances of him missing wide open WR's by 5-6 FEET sometimes (usually over their heads)....you want to cherry pick his 12-yard outs on a frozen rope? Fine....I'll take his demonstrated inability to consistently hit an open receiver 7 yards downfield in the middle of the field. If he can improve drastically on that then he MIGHT have a chance. I mean, Prater's arm is well above average too....nobody talks about him being an NFL'er.

All that being said, I'd love for Gus to get paid. I just don't expect it to happen.
 
AZGrizFan said:
krammer said:
AZGrizFan said:
krammer said:
I agree, why the animosity?.... because he is a montana kid and could not possibly be that good?.... same build and size of another Montana kid qb that is now a multi millionaire .... also a cerebral kid like that other kid form Montana....his arm strength is way above average, if you have ever seen him throw from the near hash on12 yard out to the far sideline, on a rope.. he can really spin it.........I think he will be just fine and we are fortunate to have him at u of Montana...imo no doubt who will be the starter next fall....

I'm the same size as Kroy Biermann. That doesn't make me an NFL Defensive End.


azgrizfan.....I don't understand your vitriol but you are making my point.........i almost always agree with your analysis on this areas of discussion on e-griz, .... your comment is surprising to me, when one looks at what i said in a logical manner vs cherry picking one sentience that is taking the whole discussion out of context.....anyway, i hope the best for all the qbs and if one is better than gus, then we are going to be great at that position, i think we can agree on that.....go griz !

It's not vitriol. It's fact. Gus is a nice FCS QB and yes, we are fortunate to have him at Montana. But I saw faaaaaaar to many instances of him missing wide open WR's by 5-6 FEET sometimes (usually over their heads)....you want to cherry pick his 12-yard outs on a frozen rope? Fine....I'll take his demonstrated inability to consistently hit an open receiver 7 yards downfield in the middle of the field. If he can improve drastically on that then he MIGHT have a chance. I mean, Prater's arm is well above average too....nobody talks about him being an NFL'er.

All that being said, I'd love for Gus to get paid. I just don't expect it to happen.

That is a fair evaluation and opinion of Gus. Keep in mind, there is always NFL personnel who drool over big strong armed QB's. Even more when QB depth is not very good currently in the NFL. I honestly hope Gus improves his consistency and accuracy his SR season as a GRIZ. If that happens, the GRIZ offense will be tough to stop and Gus may get drafted or signed as an UDFA. If it does not happen, don't be surprised some coach may want to take him on as a project player.

Who knows? It will be interesting to follow though. :thumb:
 
mtgrizrule said:
AZGrizFan said:
It's not vitriol. It's fact. Gus is a nice FCS QB and yes, we are fortunate to have him at Montana. But I saw faaaaaaar to many instances of him missing wide open WR's by 5-6 FEET sometimes (usually over their heads)....you want to cherry pick his 12-yard outs on a frozen rope? Fine....I'll take his demonstrated inability to consistently hit an open receiver 7 yards downfield in the middle of the field. If he can improve drastically on that then he MIGHT have a chance. I mean, Prater's arm is well above average too....nobody talks about him being an NFL'er.

All that being said, I'd love for Gus to get paid. I just don't expect it to happen.

That is a fair evaluation and opinion of Gus. Keep in mind, there is always NFL personnel who drool over big strong armed QB's. Even more when QB depth is not very good currently in the NFL. I honestly hope Gus improves his consistency and accuracy his SR season as a GRIZ. If that happens, the GRIZ offense will be tough to stop and Gus may get drafted or signed as an UDFA. If it does not happen, don't be surprised some coach may want to take him on as a project player.

Who knows? It will be interesting to follow though. :thumb:

Then again, if Gus COULD hit all those passes as a FR or SO he might not be at Montana right now... :lol: :lol:
 
AZGrizFan said:
mtgrizrule said:
AZGrizFan said:
It's not vitriol. It's fact. Gus is a nice FCS QB and yes, we are fortunate to have him at Montana. But I saw faaaaaaar to many instances of him missing wide open WR's by 5-6 FEET sometimes (usually over their heads)....you want to cherry pick his 12-yard outs on a frozen rope? Fine....I'll take his demonstrated inability to consistently hit an open receiver 7 yards downfield in the middle of the field. If he can improve drastically on that then he MIGHT have a chance. I mean, Prater's arm is well above average too....nobody talks about him being an NFL'er.

All that being said, I'd love for Gus to get paid. I just don't expect it to happen.

That is a fair evaluation and opinion of Gus. Keep in mind, there is always NFL personnel who drool over big strong armed QB's. Even more when QB depth is not very good currently in the NFL. I honestly hope Gus improves his consistency and accuracy his SR season as a GRIZ. If that happens, the GRIZ offense will be tough to stop and Gus may get drafted or signed as an UDFA. If it does not happen, don't be surprised some coach may want to take him on as a project player.

Who knows? It will be interesting to follow though. :thumb:

Then again, if Gus COULD hit all those passes as a FR or SO he might not be at Montana right now... :lol: :lol:

Very good point. :thumb:
 
mtgrizrule said:
AZGrizFan said:
mtgrizrule said:
AZGrizFan said:
It's not vitriol. It's fact. Gus is a nice FCS QB and yes, we are fortunate to have him at Montana. But I saw faaaaaaar to many instances of him missing wide open WR's by 5-6 FEET sometimes (usually over their heads)....you want to cherry pick his 12-yard outs on a frozen rope? Fine....I'll take his demonstrated inability to consistently hit an open receiver 7 yards downfield in the middle of the field. If he can improve drastically on that then he MIGHT have a chance. I mean, Prater's arm is well above average too....nobody talks about him being an NFL'er.

All that being said, I'd love for Gus to get paid. I just don't expect it to happen.

That is a fair evaluation and opinion of Gus. Keep in mind, there is always NFL personnel who drool over big strong armed QB's. Even more when QB depth is not very good currently in the NFL. I honestly hope Gus improves his consistency and accuracy his SR season as a GRIZ. If that happens, the GRIZ offense will be tough to stop and Gus may get drafted or signed as an UDFA. If it does not happen, don't be surprised some coach may want to take him on as a project player.

Who knows? It will be interesting to follow though. :thumb:

Then again, if Gus COULD hit all those passes as a FR or SO he might not be at Montana right now... :lol: :lol:

Very good point. :thumb:


azgriz....your point is well taken on the shorter passes....I know we both hope the best for gus...we are all griz in this thing.....gus has a good ball on longer throws, maybe he can dial it down for his senior year for the shorter throws......as far as a nfl, agree, that would be a stretch, but not completely impossible...go griz !
 
You guys are basing your evaluation on his talent off of one year of playing time, under a new and much different offense, behind an offensive line that was very suspect at pass protect, and with a very inexperienced center.

Regardless of that, he showed very well in a nationally televised NDSU game and shows pretty well on film. He can make passes that are valued in the NFL that most college QBs can't make. The arm strength, size, and touch on long passes is enough to get him on the radar of NFL scouts.

This 2nd season will say a lot about Gus's actual talent and whether his potential ceiling is much higher. I'm fairly certain we will see measurable improvement with his play this season. He will need to show a significant amount of improvement to get a serious look as a drafted QB, but I think many of the attributes he has to improve upon can be improved with work. He has proven that he has good work ethic, so hopefully he can make that leap.
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
You guys are basing your evaluation on his talent off of one year of playing time, under a new and much different offense, behind an offensive line that was very suspect at pass protect, and with a very inexperienced center.

Regardless of that, he showed very well in a nationally televised NDSU game and shows pretty well on film. He can make passes that are valued in the NFL that most college QBs can't make. The arm strength, size, and touch on long passes is enough to get him on the radar of NFL scouts.

This 2nd season will say a lot about Gus's actual talent and whether his potential ceiling is much higher. I'm fairly certain we will see measurable improvement with his play this season. He will need to show a significant amount of improvement to get a serious look as a drafted QB, but I think many of the attributes he has to improve upon can be improved with work. He has proven that he has good work ethic, so hopefully he can make that leap.
I think Brady is absolutely an NFL-caliber QB. He had some rough games last year, however some of that could be chalked up to learning a completely different offense and zero previous playing time.

What makes him an NFL-type QB is similar to what makes Wentz a NFL QB. Brady's arm, smarts, and mechanics are his strongest attributes. Accuracy is solid on 70% of the field, hopefully he shows improvement on some of the shorter routes. One full year with JUST FOOTBALL for him and Stitt to work on should get him there.
 
brewskis said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
You guys are basing your evaluation on his talent off of one year of playing time, under a new and much different offense, behind an offensive line that was very suspect at pass protect, and with a very inexperienced center.

Regardless of that, he showed very well in a nationally televised NDSU game and shows pretty well on film. He can make passes that are valued in the NFL that most college QBs can't make. The arm strength, size, and touch on long passes is enough to get him on the radar of NFL scouts.

This 2nd season will say a lot about Gus's actual talent and whether his potential ceiling is much higher. I'm fairly certain we will see measurable improvement with his play this season. He will need to show a significant amount of improvement to get a serious look as a drafted QB, but I think many of the attributes he has to improve upon can be improved with work. He has proven that he has good work ethic, so hopefully he can make that leap.
I think Brady is absolutely an NFL-caliber QB. He had some rough games last year, however some of that could be chalked up to learning a completely different offense and zero previous playing time.

What makes him an NFL-type QB is similar to what makes Wentz a NFL QB. Brady's arm, smarts, and mechanics are his strongest attributes. Accuracy is solid on 70% of the field, hopefully he shows improvement on some of the shorter routes. One full year with JUST FOOTBALL for him and Stitt to work on should get him there.

I'd bet that his decision making will improve and he'll have a better understanding of the offense, because he's a pretty smart kid from what I've been told. I also think your O Line will be slightly improved. I think his problem however, will be the loss of all that star power at receiver. You lose all your top receivers, 4 or 5 at least from 2015 and I don't think anyone disputes how good those guys were. Now you lose Daum and some others that were expected to take over? Yes I know you have like 30 receivers but I don't see an EH, JJ, Roberts, etc in there anywhere.
 
poorgriz said:
I'd bet that his decision making will improve and he'll have a better understanding of the offense, because he's a pretty smart kid from what I've been told. I also think your O Line will be slightly improved. I think his problem however, will be the loss of all that star power at receiver. You lose all your top receivers, 4 or 5 at least from 2015 and I don't think anyone disputes how good those guys were. Now you lose Daum and some others that were expected to take over? Yes I know you have like 30 receivers but I don't see an EH, JJ, Roberts, etc in there anywhere.
WR has some question marks, but I think there's more answers than some believe. Horner took over Roberts' position as inside WR when he was moved outside, and he finished the year very strong. Keenan Curran was quiet last year as a true frosh, but he looks like EH 2.0. Speed, strength, great hops. He will be our deep threat this next year. Aside from that we will definitely need guys to step up.
 
BWahlberg said:
GrizBear said:
There is no way in hell Brady is an NFL QB.

Looking forward to seeing if he can prove you wrong :thumb:

If he stays healthy this year, and a couple of these new receivers shine, I think Brady has as good of chance at the NFL as any FBS QB!
 
reinell30 said:
BWahlberg said:
GrizBear said:
There is no way in hell Brady is an NFL QB.

Looking forward to seeing if he can prove you wrong :thumb:

If he stays healthy this year, and a couple of these new receivers shine, I think Brady has as good of chance at the NFL as any FBS QB!

I have no actual idea if he'll become NFL material, I think he could have a chance to get a shot for a few reasons:

1. An offense that should have him put up big passing stats.
2. Physical attributes that the NFL looks for, tall, strong arm, etc
3. He's shown he's very smart and learns the system quickly, his knowledge and ability to adapt is huge

Obviously there's the other side of it:

1. He's going to have a very inexperienced WR corps and an O-line that's going to need to take a big step forward
2. Injury / heath issues from last year, concern of durability
3. He's a small school QB and he's no Carson Wentz or Joe Flacco so how much attention will he really get?
 
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