Today's big meeting and possibilities for FCS football

[HookedonGriz]

Wow, so now the FCS conferences still hoping to play (7 of 13 is all at this point) get to try and decide. They also have to meet a shit ton of requirements, including keeping anyone who opts out on scholarship as well as covering any covid 19 related health expenses. This is still tricky ground at his point. Also the ncaa said if any division has 50% of its conferences not playing then there will be no season. We are teetering on that now in FCS.

Edit: I stand corrected it’s actually 50% of eligible teams. Even though some conferences are not playing this fall some of those teams from the conferences have stated they are willing to so this would help that number

 

[kemajic]

https://twitter.com/BrianMacWriter/status/1291037457941757953?s=20

No reason to expect anything other than a nothing burger from the NCAA.

 

[SACCAT66]

Wow, so now the FCS conferences still hoping to play (7 of 13 is all at this point) get to try and decide. They also have to meet a shit ton of requirements, including keeping anyone who opts out on scholarship as well as covering any covid 19 related health expenses. This is still tricky ground at his point. Also the ncaa said if any division has 50% of its conferences not playing then there will be no season. We are teetering on that now in FCS.

They said if 50% of the conference isn't playing, then there will not be a Fall Championship. You could still play, but not win a conference or national championship...

 

[Da Boyz Mom]

https://twitter.com/BrianMacWriter/status/1291037457941757953?s=20

No reason to expect anything other than a nothing burger from the NCAA.

It's worse than a nothingburger, because it's a pass the buck AND here's a huge list of requirements that each institution must follow.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Wow, so now the FCS conferences still hoping to play (7 of 13 is all at this point) get to try and decide. They also have to meet a shit ton of requirements, including keeping anyone who opts out on scholarship as well as covering any covid 19 related health expenses. This is still tricky ground at his point. Also the ncaa said if any division has 50% of its conferences not playing then there will be no season. We are teetering on that now in FCS.

I initially kind of read the news as a "We can't make tough decisions, but just know that we can control you if we want to" message from the NCAA.

But, then, I think this is about as much as the NCAA could do on the "let them play" side. I don't think the NCAA can compel FCS schools to play, so I think leaving it up to the divisions is probably the best message we could expect.

 

[grizfan1984]

My question is if all the athletes decide to sit out and come back next season on scholarship what does that do to the recruiting class of 2021 are we just going to have to drop all these kids who have commited because we don’t have a scholarship for them? Or do we have to weed out guys? Class of 2021 was a huge class and we’d likely have seen 30-35 recruits so are we just going to drop 30-35 guys just for any kind of class?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

https://twitter.com/BrianMacWriter/status/1291037457941757953?s=20

No reason to expect anything other than a nothing burger from the NCAA.

I guess I don't really know what else the NCAA could've said. The options were "You can't play" or "You can play if you want". I don't think "You are playing" was on the table, but maybe I'm missing something.

 

[Da Boyz Mom]

So now what happens? I'm assuming the FCS playoff committee now has to meet and make the hard decisions?

 

[Da Boyz Mom]

My question is if all the athletes decide to sit out and come back next season on scholarship what does that do to the recruiting class of 2021 are we just going to have to drop all these kids who have commited because we don’t have a scholarship for them? Or do we have to weed out guys? Class of 2021 was a huge class and we’d likely have seen 30-35 recruits so are we just going to drop 30-35 guys just for any kind of class?

The stipulations specifically say that the scholarship of any athlete who decides to opt-out must be honored. This is very problematic for coaches and universities. The only saving grace is that the NCAA is giving power to the divisions to decide on eligibility, meaning that the FCS could say that anyone who opts out will lose a year of eligibility, which would equal things out scholarship wise.

 

[kemajic]

Nothing on the BSC site, as usual.

 

[kemajic]

So now what happens? I'm assuming the FCS playoff committee now has to meet and make the hard decisions?

Do you think they have the balls to make hard decisions? Most likely the can gets kicked farther down the road.

 

[grizfan1984]

My question is if all the athletes decide to sit out and come back next season on scholarship what does that do to the recruiting class of 2021 are we just going to have to drop all these kids who have commited because we don’t have a scholarship for them? Or do we have to weed out guys? Class of 2021 was a huge class and we’d likely have seen 30-35 recruits so are we just going to drop 30-35 guys just for any kind of class?

The stipulations specifically say that the scholarship of any athlete who decides to opt-out must be honored. This is very problematic for coaches and universities. The only saving grace is that the NCAA is giving power to the divisions to decide on eligibility, meaning that the FCS could say that anyone who opts out will lose a year of eligibility, which would equal things out scholarship wise.

I just read a tweet from Frank Gogola saying that anyone who opts out will have to be allowed back and on scholarship

 

[marceagfan5]

With six of the 13 conferences already sitting out this fall… Looks like the FCS can’t afford to lose another conference or there will be no playoffs… I’m not sure if the Ivy League figures into the total or not, but basically everyone that hasn’t decided yet will need to opt in, or their most likely won’t be any playoffs this year if football goes forward

 

[Da Boyz Mom]

So now what happens? I'm assuming the FCS playoff committee now has to meet and make the hard decisions?

Do you think they have the balls to make hard decisions? Most likely the can gets kicked farther down the road.

They are going to have to make decisions and quickly, because the NCAA gave them hard deadlines:

"Each division must determine no later than Aug. 14 the eligibility accommodations that must be made for student-athletes who opt out of participating this fall or for those whose seasons are canceled or cut short due to COVID-19. College athletes and their families must know what their eligibility status will be before beginning the fall season."

"The divisions must determine by Aug. 21 whether their respective fall sports seasons and NCAA championships should occur this year. All three divisions must follow their governance processes in making decisions."

 

[ilovethecats]

The stipulations specifically say that the scholarship of any athlete who decides to opt-out must be honored. This is very problematic for coaches and universities. The only saving grace is that the NCAA is giving power to the divisions to decide on eligibility, meaning that the FCS could say that anyone who opts out will lose a year of eligibility, which would equal things out scholarship wise.

I just read a tweet from Frank Gogola saying that anyone who opts out will have to be allowed back and on scholarship

Would this be more incentive for coaches, teams and conferences as a whole to play?

 

[Da Boyz Mom]

With six of the 13 conferences already sitting out this fall… Looks like the FCS can’t afford to lose another conference or there will be no playoffs… I’m not sure if the Ivy League figures into the total or not, but basically everyone that hasn’t decided yet will need to opt in, or their most likely won’t be any playoffs this year if football goes forward

It's 50% of institutions, not conferences, which helps a little since at least one conference is allowing schools to play if they choose. But yes, still an issue.

 

[Da Boyz Mom]

I just read a tweet from Frank Gogola saying that anyone who opts out will have to be allowed back and on scholarship

Would this be more incentive for coaches, teams and conferences as a whole to play?

Frank is correct about scholarships needing to be honored, but incorrect about eligibility.

"Each division must determine no later than Aug. 14 the eligibility accommodations that must be made for student-athletes who opt out of participating this fall or for those whose seasons are canceled or cut short due to COVID-19. College athletes and their families must know what their eligibility status will be before beginning the fall season."

Therefore - the FCS CAN say that athletes who opt out will not be able to keep that year of eligibility. I am not sure they will do that, but it's possible. I can see this happening because otherwise schools would be forced to keep athletes on scholarship who (in a normal year) would have exhausted their eligibility, which plays havoc with scholarship numbers and the incoming class. It's honestly a big, crappy mess for both universities and athletes. By instituting the scholarship rule, the NCAA has backed schools into a corner. I think it would have been better to guarantee eligibility but not scholarships.

 

[cclarkblues]

https://www.si.com/college/tmg/tony-barnhart/spanish-flu

 

[marceagfan5]

D3 just cancelled their fall championships

 

[ilovethecats]

https://www.si.com/college/tmg/tony-barnhart/spanish-flu

Love this! :clap:

Thanks