Time for Gwen to Go

[Grisly Fan]

Oh gee, don't you know? The NCAA's intentions are PURELY altruistic - NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. I mean it couldn't be that everyone happens to know the dirty secret that these athletes risk their health to help generate billions of dollars of revenue and no small part of it runs through the hands of the NCAA. You know, you can't have student athletes getting uppity and all that -- or people might wake up and admit this fact. That would mean a whole lot less money for THE BIG BUSINESS NCAA. So slap the students down on a whim. Slap down the institution. Make 'em squirm and quake in their shoes. Especially do it to the people who really didn't cause the problem in the first place. THAT'LL SHOW 'EM! This way the NCAA can be self-righteous and show everyone that promoting a "football culture" is not what they are about. Yeah right.

 

[tnt]

Things got out of wack, its that simple. We had a president more interested in building buildings and subdividing the golf course than running a university. An athletic department more interested in W-L filling seats and expanding facilities than using the program to develop students and promote the university. Both turned it over to a washed up political spin master to make it all look good. Then things started to go to hell in a hand basket, all the spin in the world couldn't cover up wrong priorities and ambition from the administration. RE couldn't possibly get it fixed fast enough to avoid a public scandal. Perhaps the steps have been taken that will avoid much trouble from the DOE and DOJ, but the worst that will come from them is some more recommendations. I'm not hoping for the NCAA to wack the University, its inevitable. If, crack, you are the insider you sometimes appear to be then you KNOW something like this has been coming for a long time. There has been a very large contingent in the community pushing for Prince George and his merrymen to replaced for a long time lest what is now happening would happen. I don't know anyone taking joy.


Of course they learned entitlement. Had a BB player from the early 80's in yesterday (when BB made football today look like an intramural sport)who made mention of the three head coaches he had mad sure they learned something different.

 

[GrizLA]

Things got out of wack, its that simple. We had a president more interested in building buildings and subdividing the golf course than running a university. An athletic department more interested in W-L filling seats and expanding facilities than using the program to develop students and promote the university. Both turned it over to a washed up political spin master to make it all look good. Then things started to go to hell in a hand basket, all the spin in the world couldn't cover up wrong priorities and ambition from the administration. RE couldn't possibly get it fixed fast enough to avoid a public scandal. Perhaps the steps have been taken that will avoid much trouble from the DOE and DOJ, but the worst that will come from them is some more recommendations. I'm not hoping for the NCAA to wack the University, its inevitable. If, crack, you are the insider you sometimes appear to be then you KNOW something like this has been coming for a long time. There has been a very large contingent in the community pushing for Prince George and his merrymen to replaced for a long time lest what is now happening would happen. I don't know anyone taking joy.


Of course they learned entitlement. Had a BB player from the early 80's in yesterday (when BB made football today look like an intramural sport)who made mention of the three head coaches he had mad sure they learned something different.

I am sorry, your entire post has been negated by your sophomoric use of the term "Prince George"..Sorry, that relegates you to just another paranoid academic, angry that UM is achieving on a football field what we have not achieved academically in years. You lost cred, as they say.

 

[Montana Gym Rat]

You know that every complaint about her is just being written off as coming from a 'griz football fan pissed about negative coverage of their holy football team', even though she really is a terrible, biased reporter

Well considering GymRat is an MSU football fan before a Griz football fan it would appear her continued writings are now branching out across both fan bases in the state.

Also - my major qualm is with the mishandling of the Baken story, not the Griz football coverage. I haven't heard enough proof from either side to objectively say that Florio is completely wrong on her viewpoint on those articles. It's still a valid perspective, in my opinion.

She crossed the line on a few things, but overall - I can at least understand that the Griz football predicament does have some legs and her angle on the story does deserve coverage. Is she being completely fair to the story? No. But there is such a shroud of mystery around the whole story that I don't know how you could report the story without holes here an there.

BUT, the Baken story was a totally off-base. Not only was the original story a jump-to-conclusion of the worst kind, but then she doesn't even have the integrity to redact or correct herself! Every news outlet will make mistakes on reporting, as it isn't always easy to gather all the information before getting a breaking story on the wire. But there should be some practices in place to mitigate this from happening. And when it does happen, it should become the highest priority to correct these stories and make the situation right. This STILL hasn't happened over at the Missoulian. The original article is fully intact, without edit or update. On top of that, it is still trending as one of the most popular articles on the website! That story actually lists above the follow up story! Simply unacceptable by anyone's standards.

I really don't want to turn this thread into a Griz footbal vs Florio argument. Because that is a tangent that turns this into an argument based on opinions and emotions. I'd rather focus on what happened with the Baken story because that is an obvious example of why her style of journalism should not be allowed to continue with the Missoulian. It is reckless and irresponsible. It leads to an unfair damaging of reputations, both individuals and the community. This is a damage that cannot be easily repaired or restored either! How many people out there only saw the Facebook post, Huffington Post, or Missoulian article and that has become their perception of reality?

To me, it is almost as bad as Baken making up the story in the first place. He is one individual and his word can become discounted just as quickly as the original story spread. But the Missoulian carries weight. It is a reputable source that people trust. It must be above the quick-draw news stories that draw attention at the risk of being incorrect. I personally feel that the Missoulian is not taking this responsibility seriously, and Florio has been at the center of the majority of these situations.

Again, Fire Florio.

Can we start a new bumper sticker? Remove the Florio. Restore the paper.

 

[Grisly Fan]

She repeatedly referred to a gang rape" in articles as supporting evidence in making her point long after it was proven not to be one. Yes, it allegedly involved football players but that now seems to be beside the point. She has an agenda that she is willing to forward at any cost. If her writing was strictly on the editorial page it may almost be foregivable but she has access to the front page headline. Unbelievable.