Time for Chalich to start

[UMGriz75]

Well, there is just about enough data on the two respective Quarterbacks to see some differences.

Over the two year period, Chad Chalich's Quarterback Rating is 29% higher than Brady's, 175 vs. 135.

However, Chad's Chalich's QBR for 2016 has improved 108% over his 2015 rating; Brady has improved just 12%. For 2016, Chad has averaged (over just two games) 268, compared to Brady's 148. The difference this year is that Chad's QBE is 80% higher than Brady's. That's just two games' worth, but ...

The Standard Deviation for the Quarterback Rating for 2016 is 36 for Brady and 13 for Chad -- Chad is substantially more predictable than Brady. That hasn't changed much from 2015, when it was 28 for Brady and 8 for Chad. That's significant in assessing whether Chad's fewer number of games in 2016 offers predictive power.

Chad Chalich's longest pass per game averages 9 yards longer than Brady's, a 17% greater typical long throw.

Chad Chalich's average completed pass per game is 2 yards longer than Brady's, a difference of 20%.

 

[Eriul]

Yah...comparisons not meaning much when you compare game by game and Chalich has played the worst defenses in the BSC.

Sac State is the last defense in the BSC and the FCS. ISU has the 2nd worst BSC defense and the 5th worst in the FCS.

 

[Grizzoola]

I thinks it's fair to say that at the very least the offense gave people a reason be positive by its ability to move the ball and score. IMO Chalich gives this team a better chance of getting the ball in the end zone when in the red zone. It boggles my mind that the coaches can't have scripted plays for Chad to get the ball in the end zone. His mobility makes defenses "honest " and have to be aware of his ability to move the pocket with his feet. My guess is defenses find it easier to gameplan for Brady then Chad and since the offensive line is not playing all that great Stitt needs to take a long hard look at who gives this team the best chance of winning. Bottom line yesterday I think was win win having Chalich playing.

:clap: :thumb:

 

[UMGriz75]

Yah...comparisons not meaning much when you compare game by game and Chalich has played the worst defenses in the BSC.

Brady and Chad both played against Sac State. Mississippi Valley State is not arguably the worst defense we have played.

 

[Eriul]

Yah...comparisons not meaning much when you compare game by game and Chalich has played the worst defenses in the BSC.

Brady and Chad both played against Sac State. Mississippi Valley State is not arguably the worst defense we have played.

This sentence makes no sense. If you are arguing that MVS is the worst defense we faced... then you are wrong by a significant margin

 

[Grizzoola]

Some posters here think Brady is a better QB because he has a "strong arm." The Patriots win games by short passes, 1st downs after 1st downs, interspersed w/ a ground game. I suppose the Pat's (who are not my favorite NFL team by a long shot), do go for the long ball, but it's not something (I think) is a major part of the Pat's O, nor should it be a major part of the Griz O. Point? Chalich is more of a challenge to BSC D's than Brady.

I've been on the "jury" re: Brady for 2 yrs., now, and I think most of us know the kid is up & down. He's so immobile and that is a disadvantage, given that BSC Olines are not those of NFL Olines, where a QB can stand in the pocket, ala Manning, etc. If Brady were hitting receivers in key situations (4th downs), no problem. But he's not.

I'm concerned the jury is still out re: the vaunted Griz D. It allowed St. Francis 31 points, CP 42 points, NAU 45 points, EWU 35 points, and ISU 44 points. Is this the D we knew of yore?

 

[UMGriz75]

Yah...comparisons not meaning much when you compare game by game and Chalich has played the worst defenses in the BSC.

Brady and Chad both played against Sac State. Mississippi Valley State is not arguably the worst defense we have played.

This sentence makes no sense. If you are arguing that MVS is the worst defense we faced... then you are wrong by a significant margin

How much of a "margin?"

 

[Eriul]

Yah...comparisons not meaning much when you compare game by game and Chalich has played the worst defenses in the BSC.

Brady and Chad both played against Sac State. Mississippi Valley State is not arguably the worst defense we have played.

This sentence makes no sense. If you are arguing that MVS is the worst defense we faced... then you are wrong by a significant margin

How much of a "margin?"

90 yards a game or .7 yards per play

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/22/p2

sucks when stats don't argue your side of the story :lol:

 

[UMGriz75]

I'm concerned the jury is still out re: the vaunted Griz D. It allowed St. Francis 31 points, CP 42 points, NAU 45 points, EWU 35 points, and ISU 44 points. Is this the D we knew of yore?

Now, don't get the sacred cows all in an uproar.

 

[G-BEARS]

Brady and Chad both played against Sac State. Mississippi Valley State is not arguably the worst defense we have played.

This sentence makes no sense. If you are arguing that MVS is the worst defense we faced... then you are wrong by a significant margin

How much of a "margin?"

90 yards a game or .7 yards per play

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/22/p2

sucks when stats don't argue your side of the story :lol:

They play in the SWAC... They consistently play inferior opponents compared to the teams Sac and ISU are playing on a weekly basis. Of course MVSU defense is going to give up less yards than teams like ISU who play offenses like Colorado, Oregon State, Montana, NAU, etc. etc. What an idiotic way to use stats :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I'm concerned the jury is still out re: the vaunted Griz D. It allowed St. Francis 31 points, CP 42 points, NAU 45 points, EWU 35 points, and ISU 44 points. Is this the D we knew of yore?

Now, don't get the sacred cows all in an uproar.

I just assumed that Grizzoola was to new of a Griz fan to remember when it was common to see Griz opponents score points like that.

 

[Eriul]

This sentence makes no sense. If you are arguing that MVS is the worst defense we faced... then you are wrong by a significant margin

How much of a "margin?"

90 yards a game or .7 yards per play

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/22/p2

sucks when stats don't argue your side of the story :lol:

They play in the SWAC... They consistently play inferior opponents compared to the teams Sac and ISU are playing on a weekly basis. Of course MVSU defense is going to give up less yards than teams like ISU who play offenses like Colorado, Oregon State, Montana, NAU, etc. etc. What an idiotic way to use stats :lol: :lol: :lol:

75 wanted to use straight stats to prove Chalich was better. I used stats to refute his argument. BY THE NUMBERS, MVSU is actually in the top half of defenses we've faced. Do I actually think they are that good? No. But 75 wants to say Chalich is a better QB by stats and the stats he provided are flawed. Simple

 

[UMGriz75]

Brady and Chad both played against Sac State. Mississippi Valley State is not arguably the worst defense we have played.

This sentence makes no sense. If you are arguing that MVS is the worst defense we faced... then you are wrong by a significant margin

How much of a "margin?"

90 yards a game or .7 yards per play

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/22/p2

sucks when stats don't argue your side of the story :lol:

As usual, your supreme overconfidence in your own opinions sinks you. The point is not MVS's "record," the point is the worst defense that UM has faced, this season. They allowed us to put up 67 points. True, Sac State allowed us 68. But in my recollection, the second string played longer against MVS.

 

[UMGriz75]

75 wanted to use straight stats to prove Chalich was better. I used stats to refute his argument. BY THE NUMBERS, MVSU is actually in the top half of defenses we've faced. Do I actually think they are that good? No. But 75 wants to say Chalich is a better QB by stats and the stats he provided are flawed. Simple

Well, let's see, the same QBs playing in the same conference, on the same team, under the same coach, vs a team that we ACTUALLY PLAYED and who put up a pretty weak defense IN THAT GAME. You would have noticed, had you not been in a rush -- like pretending two weeks ago that you had seen a Griz QB playing in 2002 that had played in 1998 -- I said the weakest defense "that we faced." You know, actually played. Not a word about "statistically." Your feeble effort, similar to your feeble effort at fabricating a game and a season and a QB that you had not seen -- isn't just dishonest, its practically deranged. Brady is obviously a special relationship for you. The stats regarding QB comparisons are not flawed -- not by your bizarre standards, that's for sure -- but they do happen to be the record as it stands.

 

[Eriul]

This sentence makes no sense. If you are arguing that MVS is the worst defense we faced... then you are wrong by a significant margin

How much of a "margin?"

90 yards a game or .7 yards per play

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/22/p2

sucks when stats don't argue your side of the story :lol:

As usual, your supreme overconfidence in your own opinions sinks you. The point is not MVS's "record," the point is the worst defense that UM has faced, this season. They allowed us to put up 67 points. True, Sac State allowed us 68. But in my recollection, the second string played longer against MVS.

This post is why everyone thinks you are a joke. You are assessing defenses based on how many points WE put on them. You contradict yourself by saying Sac state allowed more points and you say second string played against MVS when you yourself just posted stats of chalich(OUR SECOND STRINGER) playing against sac state.


You argue statistically Chalich is better. Well Statistically Chalich has faced MUCH easier defenses. It's not even close.

You cannot be this stupid.

 

[George Ferguson]

"Brady would have been the guy had he not been banged up," Stitt said. "We've got to get Brady back healthy and when he is he'll be back in there."

 

[UMGriz75]

You argue statistically Chalich is better. Well Statistically Chalich has faced MUCH easier defenses. It's not even close.

You cannot be this stupid.

I would have to exert myself to reach the bottom you dwell in. BG has faced easy defenses. Don't be a tool and pretend otherwise. The fact is, on these threads, if anyone even dares suggests anything that does not meet your approval about BG, you go nuts and start fabricating all sorts of things you actually don't know anything about. Like claiming to have watched Ah Yat play Griz football before you also claimed to have ever watched Griz football.

It was quite an exposition of "credibility."

 

[UMGriz75]

You are assessing defenses based on how many points WE put on them.

There you have it. :roll: :roll:

 

[Fahque]

This thread was doomed from the start.

 

[Eriul]

You argue statistically Chalich is better. Well Statistically Chalich has faced MUCH easier defenses. It's not even close.

You cannot be this stupid.

I would have to exert myself to reach the bottom you dwell in. BG has faced easy defenses. Don't be a tool and pretend otherwise. The fact is, on these threads, if anyone even dares suggests anything that does not meet your approval about BG, you go nuts and start fabricating all sorts of things you actually don't know anything about. Like claiming to have watched Ah Yat play Griz football before you also claimed to have never watched Griz football.

It was quite an exposition of "credibility."

BG has faced easy defenses. He's also faced 2 top 10 FCS defenses so... At least I provide statistics. You claim MVSU has the worst defense we faced but statistically we have faced 4 worse defenses.

I haven't fabricated anything. I actually provided statistical evidence. You are the one fabricating. I never claimed to have watched Ah Yat play football. You are so full of shit it's insane. It's no wonder you got banned. I remember now why I had you on ignore.