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Time for Chalich to start
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Fushiznitz
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G-BEARS said:
This. What, past 20 yards, has Gus hit downfield in the last 5 games?
PlayerRep said:
I didn't get to watch the game, and I agree about the dropped balls last week and the impact on the EWU game, as well as Chalich's tendency to leave the pocket too soon (we saw that last year when he started too), but I have a question: Please tell me the last good game BG had against a GOOD defense. People keep putting an asterisk by Chalich's performance, but it seems to this casual observer that BG struggles mightily against average to above average defenses, only setting the world on fire against the dumpster-fire defenses of the world......
Great game by Chad. You can't argue with 7 TD passes. I have been saying on here for the last year and a half, this offense will be better served by a mobile QB who can extend plays and allow our outstanding group of WRs more time to get separation, or run for an important first down or two. I think yesterday was a snapshot of what this team will be like when Jensen gets his turn.
That said, I agree with PR, Brady throws a better deep ball.
That said, I agree with PR, Brady throws a better deep ball.
I thinks it's fair to say that at the very least the offense gave people a reason be positive by its ability to move the ball and score. IMO Chalich gives this team a better chance of getting the ball in the end zone when in the red zone. It boggles my mind that the coaches can't have scripted plays for Chad to get the ball in the end zone. His mobility makes defenses "honest " and have to be aware of his ability to move the pocket with his feet. My guess is defenses find it easier to gameplan for Brady then Chad and since the offensive line is not playing all that great Stitt needs to take a long hard look at who gives this team the best chance of winning. Bottom line yesterday I think was win win having Chalich playing.
rimrockgriz
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So...why did the receivers deliver the mail this week, Einstein? I'll be glad to shine the light in your closet. Chalich put air under the throws making it easier to make the reception. Simply said, it is more forgiving to the wr when the pass isn't a fast ball that BG seems to use 95% of the time.( BG has difficulty using a higher trajectory throw on "go" routes) This was exhibited on a grand scale yesterday as even posers like you should be able to comprehend with your education and ego. When the pass has more air under it the receiver has more time to adjust his body and hand positions while shielding the defender. Certainly, there are routes and situations where a fast ball is required. (curls, digs, quick outs etc.) If you watched the game and were remotely sober, this skill set was plain as day. The ability of the qb to use his legs efficiently is another discussion... :egrizPlayerRep said:
I mean Chalich was rolling out left and making accurate throws 
I still consider this coach as sitting on the rigid side of change, meaning he didn't use Chalich in the NAU game when it was evident it wasn't going to work for BG in that contest. If you still need me to draw you a more simple picture , look at old Joe Montana film. He threw a soft ball to a spot where the wr was projected to be.HelenaHandBasket
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I posted this in the game thread just to stir the pot, but what if Chalich just throws a more catchable ball than does BG. Nothing to do with arm strength or the prettiest long ball. It is just more catchable.
Not to start any pissing matches, but I'm pretty sure the QB who Stitt is looking for to run his offense is really a combination of these two. Brady's arm strength, size, and release and Chalich's mobility and touch down the field. They both bring something to the table the other doesn't have, but neither has the whole package, and it wasn't a secret Stitt was snooping around to see what was out there before the season started.
I would be shocked if Brady didn't start if healthy, but one thing this game might have done was given Bob some confidence in going to Chalich if the game was getting away from him, if his ego would allow it.
I would be shocked if Brady didn't start if healthy, but one thing this game might have done was given Bob some confidence in going to Chalich if the game was getting away from him, if his ego would allow it.
rimrockgriz said:So...why did the receivers deliver the mail this week, Einstein? I'll be glad to shine the light in your closet. Chalich put air under the throws making it easier to make the reception. Simply said, it is more forgiving to the wr when the pass isn't a fast ball that BG seems to use 95% of the time.( BG has difficulty using a higher trajectory throw on "go" routes) This was exhibited on a grand scale yesterday as even posers like you should be able to comprehend with your education and ego. When the pass has more air under it the receiver has more time to adjust his body and hand positions while shielding the defender. Certainly, there are routes and situations where a fast ball is required. (curls, digs, quick outs etc.) If you watched the game and were remotely sober, this skill set was plain as day. The ability of the qb to use his legs efficiently is another discussion... :egrizPlayerRep said:
I don't know why the receivers caught the tough balls yesterday, but don't think it had anything to do with how the ball was thrown. There were several earlier games where the receivers caught tough balls, and BG was obviously the QB.
Several balls downfield on the sidelines were terrific catches (and also good or pretty good throws). Nguyen's catch of the high ball over the middle was a great catch. One catch in the southeast corner of the end zone was a great catch. JLM's catch over his head at full speed was a great catch.
Chalich didn't throw many longer out patterns. Tough throws that require a stronger arm
Chalich had a great scramble left and then throw down field against his body. But his scramble left going south in front of the bench was a bad and dangerous throw.
2 longer balls that were caught were under thrown. I'm okay with that. They were completed and good enough throws. Better throws would have been TD's. I would have called offensive PI on our first long TD to the northeast along the sideline. Big early push off to get separation.
There was great separation by the receivers on multiple plays. It's easier to get the ball to a receiver with separation and easier for them to catch the ball. Chalich connected on all of those throws, I believe. That's terrific.
Again, I would be curious to know how his decision making and play calling were, and how sophisticated the plays were, compared to BG. BG makes the offense better when he's making the good decisions. Maybe Chalich was too.
Were any of Chalich's runs planned? I didn't notice any zone read. I missed some plays at times, so may have missed this.
None of this is intended to be critical of Chalich. He had an outstanding game, and I'm glad he got his chance.
griznation23
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Guess Stitt is fine with losing if he doesn't atleast try chalich...
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HelenaHandBasket
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griznation23 said:
There is no way Stitt is fine with losing. For whatever reason, he thinks BG is the guy.
I’ve been calling or Chalich, but the pee-desterns and the shugah coatahs could not see it. On that note, where is BadGlands Griz hiding his chigger infested, heifer chasing ass? I say play them both as there is so little drop off … and maybe none, between them. And, BG does definitely have good days and bad days. So, give CC his time and see … and don’t reserve CC’s playing time only for those bad days. He may have to play at any time — as he did yesterday — and should be sharp, well practiced and game ready at all times. I believe we may have had another win if we had used Chalich in earlier situations.
HelenaHandBasket
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Fat Bruno said:
I am not sure the Griz win yesterday if BG plays.
Sam A. Blitz
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I like Chalich, but lets not ignore some facts. ISU was not prepared to face Chalich. The receivers played better, but they also played against a very weak ISU secondary. The receivers had their way on the routes they wanted to run, finding space, and getting themselves into position. The reason our receivers played better had to do more with matchups than the quality of the passes thrown to them. Chad did not have the pocket collapse on him at all. This allowed him more time to throw and to scramble out of the pocket. Despite that, there were times he held on to the ball too long and took some sacks that probably could have been avoided.
I still think Gus gives us the best chance to win. It's difficult to say how Chad would do against a better defense that would be prepared to face him. I just think Gus has the better ability in the pre reads, getting rid of the ball quicker, and making more throws. That is just my opinion, but it seems to be shared by the coaching staff, which is the only opinion that really matters.
I still think Gus gives us the best chance to win. It's difficult to say how Chad would do against a better defense that would be prepared to face him. I just think Gus has the better ability in the pre reads, getting rid of the ball quicker, and making more throws. That is just my opinion, but it seems to be shared by the coaching staff, which is the only opinion that really matters.
Chalich played well. He is a solid #2 on our team. That being said... the WRs played much much much better than in the past few weeks. Many balls were thrown in a bad spot and the catches were still made, a couple td passes and even the Nguyen catch in the middle. Also I am pretty sure I could have put up a few tds on that secondary. The griz receivers were wide open often times. Regardless chalich played well. It's no secret that Brady understands our offense more though. Brady runs the offense efficiently and throws a better deep ball. Chalich really masks the glaring weakness in the o line by extending plays with his feet. Both players bring something to the table.
The problem with our team isn't which qb starts though. All year egriz has been hating on the qb situation when we consistently are putting up great offensive numbers. The problem with our team at the moment is our defense, more specifically, the secondary
The problem with our team isn't which qb starts though. All year egriz has been hating on the qb situation when we consistently are putting up great offensive numbers. The problem with our team at the moment is our defense, more specifically, the secondary
