The Stitt extension question

[kemajic]

Griz program is mired in mediocrity. If Stitt is extended beyond this year the mediocrity will continue, and more time will be wasted.

A change is needed if Griz are to compete for another Big Sky Conference championship. BSC conference dominance will not return with mediocre coach Stitt. Bobcat fans want Stitt to remain in Missoula for as long as possible. :roll:

Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.

Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)
Mick Delaney 29-25 career
Mick Dennehy 68-62 career

So you think it is meaningful to compare Stitt records vs. DII competition vs. Read, Hauck, Glenn, Dennehy records vs. FBS competition. Lame, to help your narrative. Let's compare apples to apples and compare FCS records, which is the level at which we play. And we will spell Don Read's name correctly....

Stitt 19-13 (0.594) 1-1 vs. MSU
Read 85-36 (0.702) 10-0 vs. MSU
Hauck 80-17 (0.825) 5-2 vs. MSU
Glenn 51-40 (0.560) 2-1 vs. MSU
Delaney 24-14 (0.632) 2-1 vs. MSU
Dennehy 39-12 (0.765) 4-0 vs. MSU

Facts, just the facts. Fair and balanced.

 

[indian-outlaw]

Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.

Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)
Mick Delaney 29-25 career
Mick Dennehy 68-62 career

So you think it is meaningful to compare Stitt records vs. DII competition vs. Read, Hauck, Glenn, Dennehy records vs. FBS competition. Lame, to help your narrative. Let's compare apples to apples and compare FCS records, which is the level at which we play. And we will spell Don Read's name correctly....

Stitt 19-13 (0.594) 1-1 vs. MSU
Read 85-36 (0.702) 10-0 vs. MSU
Hauck 80-17 (0.825) 5-2 vs. MSU
Glenn 51-40 (0.560) 2-1 vs. MSU
Delaney 24-14 (0.632) 2-1 vs. MSU
Dennehy 39-12 (0.765) 4-0 vs. MSU

Facts, just the facts. Fair and balanced.

Wow, that is interesting stuff. Every single coach on that list is better than the griz overall .54 winning percentage that the griz have overall. We have had a lot of good coaches in the last 30 years.

 

[whitefishbear]

Looking at griztixs I noticed there are still tickets available for all remaining games. Including cat/Griz. If this was a playoff team people would be looking for tickets not trying to sell them. People have seen the writing on the wall....playoffs are unlikely. Spoiled? Maybe but it’s difficult to see a once feared team that intimidated other teams by their mere presence be a bottom dweller in the big sky. That’s what Montana created. What we have now doesn’t even come close to representing what was once The University of Montana Football Team. The coach stresses the mental side of the game....maybe he should be stressing fear and intimidation in the other team. Hell I don’t even remember if the offensive line has got any holding penalties but our quarterbacks continually get whacked. DON’T lET THEM HIT THE QUARTERBACK!! We have some very good football players but for whatever reason they have a difficult time getting off the bus. Sorry to say but they looked unsure on Saturday and even flinched a bit. I liked it when the offense would badger the defense and the defense returned in kind.

I remember Bobby Hauck's O-Line pushing defenses right up the field. Our O-Line making holes for our running backs. Defensive players laying the (Legal) hits to opposing RB's and Wr's. This type of physical play has been absent for 5 years now. Oh sure you get an occasional good hit from Schye or Buss but that is all. The O-Line is bigger but still not physical. IDK?

Yep, and it is easy to see the difference

 

[whitefishbear]

It is ironic that a person who cares so much about the kids we recruit is so blase' about the development and ultimate success of those same kids after they arrive here.

That might be the dumbest thing you have posted to date. To think a coach...any coach doesn’t care about development is flat out special ed... and that’s not being kind to the special ed kids

I didn't say that Stitt doesn't CARE about development, I suggest that he has not been very good at it, nor at leading his team to be unified. And you don't seem to care about these recruits after they get here..... only that the DO get here!

Are you reading my mind??
How do you know what I think about recruits after they get to UM?

I’ll share. After they sign they are a Griz and I don’t care where they came from. Makes no difference to me wether it’s Anaconda or Arizona. I hope that they are successful on and off the field, win championships and finish with a degree and lead a productive long life.

But I don’t tie my happiness to the wins and losses of a football team. Life’s to short to take a game that seriously

But you are actively still supporting re-hiring Stitt. Apparently you find no problem in the obvious unity situation which has surrounded this team during his first two years, and which caused Stitt to make a big deal in pressers to talk about the fact that "now our team is finally unified"! Are you willing to lay the blame on players for the lack of team unity, or do you hold the head coach responsible?

Secondly, if you care so much about these recruits that you follow so closely during the process, do you think that this head coach is properly developing them to reach their full potential as players?

You, and many others, have lauded the recruits we have signed as being great recruiting classes. You also lauded Delaney's classes as being great ones. So, why aren't we winning with these kids? It is either the fact that the kids are not as good as the hype when recruited, or the fact that they have not been coached well enough to win. You can't have it both ways. There is a reason we no longer win at the rate we used to win.

Not being an ass. Just asking you to comment on why recruiting great players is more important that coaching-'em-up to win games.

 

[AZDoc]

It doesn't matter because...for the first time in many months...I made a trip to maroon blood. According to them, Stitt is moving on after the season on his own accord, win or lose. So no need to have this discussion any longer. Let's just start talking about who the Griz will hire to be the next coach when he moves on...

 

[Grizzly Oredigger]

I say all in for 3-years, which just so happens to correspond with a MR. GJ's eligibility. I think GJ is going to be a great one for us...don't risk losing him (I realize defense is important too, but having a great qb is also very important).

 

[maroonandsilver]

It doesn't matter because...for the first time in many months...I made a trip to maroon blood. According to them, Stitt is moving on after the season on his own accord, win or lose. So no need to have this discussion any longer. Let's just start talking about who the Griz will hire to be the next coach when he moves on...

This is a recurring rumor of late. I have heard it enuf to begin to wonder if it is true. If it is, Coach Stitt is sure putting a lot of effort onto recruiting kids he won't be coaching. And what is he telling them?

 

[AZDoc]

It doesn't matter because...for the first time in many months...I made a trip to maroon blood. According to them, Stitt is moving on after the season on his own accord, win or lose. So no need to have this discussion any longer. Let's just start talking about who the Griz will hire to be the next coach when he moves on...

This is a recurring rumor of late. I have heard it enuf to begin to wonder if it is true. If it is, Coach Stitt is sure putting a lot of effort onto recruiting kids he won't be coaching. And what is he telling them?

That is not what I wanted to hear. If you start something, finish it. There is a lot of pressure at Montana, right or wrong. I truly feel he needs 1 more year, like him or not, and if he were extended...to then walk away? makes no sense to me.

 

[spsyk]

Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.

Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)
Mick Delaney 29-25 career
Mick Dennehy 68-62 career

So you think it is meaningful to compare Stitt records vs. DII competition vs. Read, Hauck, Glenn, Dennehy records vs. FBS competition. Lame, to help your narrative. Let's compare apples to apples and compare FCS records, which is the level at which we play. And we will spell Don Read's name correctly....

Stitt 19-13 (0.594) 1-1 vs. MSU
Read 85-36 (0.702) 10-0 vs. MSU
Hauck 80-17 (0.825) 5-2 vs. MSU
Glenn 51-40 (0.560) 2-1 vs. MSU
Delaney 24-14 (0.632) 2-1 vs. MSU
Dennehy 39-12 (0.765) 4-0 vs. MSU

Facts, just the facts. Fair and balanced.

Yes, although if coach Stitt was able to get the athletes that he wanted at School of Mines, he would have been undefeated and be 100%
“SARCASM “

 

[kemajic]

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.

Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)
Mick Delaney 29-25 career
Mick Dennehy 68-62 career

So you think it is meaningful to compare Stitt records vs. DII competition vs. Read, Hauck, Glenn, Dennehy records vs. FBS competition. Lame, to help your narrative. Let's compare apples to apples and compare FCS records, which is the level at which we play. And we will spell Don Read's name correctly....

Stitt 19-13 (0.594) 1-1 vs. MSU
Read 85-36 (0.702) 10-0 vs. MSU
Hauck 80-17 (0.825) 5-2 vs. MSU
Glenn 51-40 (0.560) 2-1 vs. MSU
Delaney 24-14 (0.632) 2-1 vs. MSU
Dennehy 39-12 (0.765) 4-0 vs. MSU

Facts, just the facts. Fair and balanced.

Wow, that is interesting stuff. Every single coach on that list is better than the griz overall .54 winning percentage that the griz have overall. We have had a lot of good coaches in the last 30 years.

The Glenn record is spoiled by his four years at USD. At Montana he was 39-6 in his three years. He lost his first game and three of his last four. In between he went 38-2; the two losses were to FBS Hawaii and NC GA Southern. That is consistency.

 

[TCCGRIZ]

Looking at griztixs I noticed there are still tickets available for all remaining games. Including cat/Griz. If this was a playoff team people would be looking for tickets not trying to sell them. People have seen the writing on the wall....playoffs are unlikely. Spoiled? Maybe but it’s difficult to see a once feared team that intimidated other teams by their mere presence be a bottom dweller in the big sky. That’s what Montana created. What we have now doesn’t even come close to representing what was once The University of Montana Football Team. The coach stresses the mental side of the game....maybe he should be stressing fear and intimidation in the other team. Hell I don’t even remember if the offensive line has got any holding penalties but our quarterbacks continually get whacked. DON’T lET THEM HIT THE QUARTERBACK!! We have some very good football players but for whatever reason they have a difficult time getting off the bus. Sorry to say but they looked unsure on Saturday and even flinched a bit. I liked it when the offense would badger the defense and the defense returned in kind.

I remember Bobby Hauck's O-Line pushing defenses right up the field. Our O-Line making holes for our running backs. Defensive players laying the (Legal) hits to opposing RB's and Wr's. This type of physical play has been absent for 5 years now. Oh sure you get an occasional good hit from Schye or Buss but that is all. The O-Line is bigger but still not physical. IDK?

Yep, and it is easy to see the difference

Its called Swagger

 

[indian-outlaw]

Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)
Mick Delaney 29-25 career
Mick Dennehy 68-62 career

So you think it is meaningful to compare Stitt records vs. DII competition vs. Read, Hauck, Glenn, Dennehy records vs. FBS competition. Lame, to help your narrative. Let's compare apples to apples and compare FCS records, which is the level at which we play. And we will spell Don Read's name correctly....

Stitt 19-13 (0.594) 1-1 vs. MSU
Read 85-36 (0.702) 10-0 vs. MSU
Hauck 80-17 (0.825) 5-2 vs. MSU
Glenn 51-40 (0.560) 2-1 vs. MSU
Delaney 24-14 (0.632) 2-1 vs. MSU
Dennehy 39-12 (0.765) 4-0 vs. MSU

Facts, just the facts. Fair and balanced.

Wow, that is interesting stuff. Every single coach on that list is better than the griz overall .54 winning percentage that the griz have overall. We have had a lot of good coaches in the last 30 years.

The Glenn record is spoiled by his four years at USD. At Montana he was 39-6 in his three years. He lost his first game and three of his last four. In between he went 38-2; the two losses were to FBS Hawaii and NC GA Southern. That is consistency.

How did Glenn not do well at UW or USD? He was awesome at UM and UNC.

 

[Glendivegriz]

So you think it is meaningful to compare Stitt records vs. DII competition vs. Read, Hauck, Glenn, Dennehy records vs. FBS competition. Lame, to help your narrative. Let's compare apples to apples and compare FCS records, which is the level at which we play. And we will spell Don Read's name correctly....

Stitt 19-13 (0.594) 1-1 vs. MSU
Read 85-36 (0.702) 10-0 vs. MSU
Hauck 80-17 (0.825) 5-2 vs. MSU
Glenn 51-40 (0.560) 2-1 vs. MSU
Delaney 24-14 (0.632) 2-1 vs. MSU
Dennehy 39-12 (0.765) 4-0 vs. MSU

Facts, just the facts. Fair and balanced.

Wow, that is interesting stuff. Every single coach on that list is better than the griz overall .54 winning percentage that the griz have overall. We have had a lot of good coaches in the last 30 years.

The Glenn record is spoiled by his four years at USD. At Montana he was 39-6 in his three years. He lost his first game and three of his last four. In between he went 38-2; the two losses were to FBS Hawaii and NC GA Southern. That is consistency.

How did Glenn not do well at UW or USD? He was awesome at UM and UNC.

Not enough DOLA

 

[AZGrizFan]

Wow, that is interesting stuff. Every single coach on that list is better than the griz overall .54 winning percentage that the griz have overall. We have had a lot of good coaches in the last 30 years.

The Glenn record is spoiled by his four years at USD. At Montana he was 39-6 in his three years. He lost his first game and three of his last four. In between he went 38-2; the two losses were to FBS Hawaii and NC GA Southern. That is consistency.

How did Glenn not do well at UW or USD? He was awesome at UM and UNC.

Not enough DOLA

It's a lot easier to drive a brand new Cadillac than a Yugo.

 

[Pa Joe Mac]

Coach Stitt may or may not want to stay, and he is probably the only one who knows for sure. The 61 days left on his contract have nothing to do with anything except that his contract is up. Case in point: look how long it took to hire a replacement for Pinkerton in the softball program. Haslam appears to be in no hurry and Stitt appears focused on our remaining games. In my opinion both are correct.

 

[Maxim]

Isn't it ironic that Stitt had his most successful year in his first season when nobody was as familiar with the offense and he was not using his recruits. Hmmm.....point to ponder. So what is it now, is he not good at recruiting the right/best kids or is he a bad coach? I believe it comes down to mostly poor game planning and then making poor decisions in game. How many times must we run on 3rd and long, when we have no intention of going for it on 4th? It almost never pans out. Also his decision on who the kick returners are is terrible. The fact that JLM is not on kick returns is idiotic. Look at Penn st. their star RB does kickoff return because he is so dangerous. Nothing against Eaton I'm sure he is a good kid but he has the worst vision ever. He runs into his own blockers all the time, he cannot see a hole at all. We don't even need to get into his fumbling issues.

 

[Griz Man]

Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.

Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)
Mick Delaney 29-25 career
Mick Dennehy 68-62 career

So you think it is meaningful to compare Stitt records vs. DII competition vs. Read, Hauck, Glenn, Dennehy records vs. FBS competition. Lame, to help your narrative. Let's compare apples to apples and compare FCS records, which is the level at which we play. And we will spell Don Read's name correctly....

Stitt 19-13 (0.594) 1-1 vs. MSU
Read 85-36 (0.702) 10-0 vs. MSU
Hauck 80-17 (0.825) 5-2 vs. MSU
Glenn 51-40 (0.560) 2-1 vs. MSU
Delaney 24-14 (0.632) 2-1 vs. MSU
Dennehy 39-12 (0.765) 4-0 vs. MSU

Facts, just the facts. Fair and balanced.

"Just the facts" would include mentioning that Colorado School of Mines only has majors in engineering and science and is incredibly rigorous even for an engineering college. There is no major that doesn't involve math through differential equations. How do you think that affects your roster when you're playing against other schools where students don't have to take any math?

 

[signedbewildered]

You do the math.

 

[Griz Man]

Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.

Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)
Mick Delaney 29-25 career
Mick Dennehy 68-62 career

So you think it is meaningful to compare Stitt records vs. DII competition vs. Read, Hauck, Glenn, Dennehy records vs. FBS competition. Lame, to help your narrative. Let's compare apples to apples and compare FCS records, which is the level at which we play. And we will spell Don Read's name correctly....

Stitt 19-13 (0.594) 1-1 vs. MSU
Read 85-36 (0.702) 10-0 vs. MSU
Hauck 80-17 (0.825) 5-2 vs. MSU
Glenn 51-40 (0.560) 2-1 vs. MSU
Delaney 24-14 (0.632) 2-1 vs. MSU
Dennehy 39-12 (0.765) 4-0 vs. MSU

Facts, just the facts. Fair and balanced.

Stitt's is a much smaller FCS sample size than most of the others. That doesn't seem very fair and balanced. Could it just be that losing all these QB's have skewed his record downward from what we'd see if he gets a chance to coach more games?

 

[kemajic]

Let's compare apples to apples and compare FCS records, which is the level at which we play. And we will spell Don Read's name correctly....

Stitt 19-13 (0.594) 1-1 vs. MSU
Read 85-36 (0.702) 10-0 vs. MSU
Hauck 80-17 (0.825) 5-2 vs. MSU
Glenn 51-40 (0.560) 2-1 vs. MSU
Delaney 24-14 (0.632) 2-1 vs. MSU
Dennehy 39-12 (0.765) 4-0 vs. MSU

Facts, just the facts. Fair and balanced.

"Just the facts" would include mentioning that Colorado School of Mines only has majors in engineering and science and is incredibly rigorous even for an engineering college. There is no major that doesn't involve math through differential equations. How do you think that affects your roster when you're playing against other schools where students don't have to take any math?

Please help me understand the relevance of that to the FCS only results above. There is a pretty good reason it was not mentioned.