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The Stitt extension question

AZGrizFan said:
TCCGRIZ said:
AZGrizFan said:
No one has definitively answered the question: Does he WANT to be here? The rumor has circulated that he has no desire to be extended and is leaving on his own...

Answered this before , he does not want to come back that's why there has been no offer .
With 61 days left on your contract if you wanted to come back or if they wanted you back there would have been movement by now from one or the other

Do you have proof of this? Because it's been you mainly who have perpetrated this position....

Yes sir it has been me , if I'm wrong I'll admit I was wrong and apologize but I'm going off of what I know . Not being an ass ,just think about it and all the coincidences surrounding it .
 
TCCGRIZ said:
AZGrizFan said:
TCCGRIZ said:
AZGrizFan said:
No one has definitively answered the question: Does he WANT to be here? The rumor has circulated that he has no desire to be extended and is leaving on his own...

Answered this before , he does not want to come back that's why there has been no offer .
With 61 days left on your contract if you wanted to come back or if they wanted you back there would have been movement by now from one or the other

Do you have proof of this? Because it's been you mainly who have perpetrated this position....

Yes sir it has been me , if I'm wrong I'll admit I was wrong and apologize but I'm going off of what I know . Not being an ass ,just think about it and all the coincidences surrounding it .

How do you know they haven’t already reached an agreement and are waiting until the end of the season to announce it?
 
Boscoe said:
TCCGRIZ said:
AZGrizFan said:
TCCGRIZ said:
Answered this before , he does not want to come back that's why there has been no offer .
With 61 days left on your contract if you wanted to come back or if they wanted you back there would have been movement by now from one or the other

Do you have proof of this? Because it's been you mainly who have perpetrated this position....

Yes sir it has been me , if I'm wrong I'll admit I was wrong and apologize but I'm going off of what I know . Not being an ass ,just think about it and all the coincidences surrounding it .

How do you know they haven’t already reached an agreement and are waiting until the end of the season to announce it?

Ask yourself why would they do that ? Completely makes no sense at all. Something like that would be a great recruiting tool wouldn't it?
 
Avoid unnecessary distractions? Maybe they may have agreed to terms, but execution is contingent on how the season plays out? Who knows? Point is, just because they haven’t announced anything doesn’t mean they haven’t already negotiated an agreement. Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence.
 
Boscoe said:
Avoid unnecessary distractions? Maybe they may have agreed to terms, but execution is contingent on how the season plays out? Who knows? Point is, just because they haven’t announced anything doesn’t mean they haven’t already negotiated an agreement. Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence.

Very cool last sentence :thumb:
 
TCCGRIZ said:
Boscoe said:
Avoid unnecessary distractions? Maybe they may have agreed to terms, but execution is contingent on how the season plays out? Who knows? Point is, just because they haven’t announced anything doesn’t mean they haven’t already negotiated an agreement. Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence.

Very cool last sentence :thumb:

Carl Sagan
 
HookedonGriz said:
AZGrizFan said:
HookedonGriz said:
I know he was out recruiting hard in Colorado during the bye week. Not sure if you would spend that time, money, and resources if you knew you were choosing to not come back

so just completely stop doing his job then?

Sounds ridiculous I know. But if it was open knowledge to him and to Haslam, I'd have a hard time believing he would go out recruiting or that anyone at UM would send him out recruiting. Can you imagine how that home visit would go?

He's still the boss, still collecting a paycheck...and as long as it's not public knowledge the issue shouldn't even come up in a home visit.
 
PlayerRep said:
daGrizJ said:
GrizRanger said:
Griz program is mired in mediocrity. If Stitt is extended beyond this year the mediocrity will continue, and more time will be wasted.

A change is needed if Griz are to compete for another Big Sky Conference championship. BSC conference dominance will not return with mediocre coach Stitt. Bobcat fans want Stitt to remain in Missoula for as long as possible. :roll:

Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

I am not disagreeing with your view of the recruiting classes, but how in the heck would you know how good the classes are before many of them have even gotten on the field?

I guess he would know just like you knew how great a QB Reece P. would be based on practices and scrimmages. Every Montana recruiting class is filled with stud players, where have you been? Just kidding. I agree with your post. Hyped recruiting classes are the fodder for fan fantasies about the future of their program and it is no different at Sac. State or Portland State than it is here.
 
Copper Griz said:
whitefishbear said:
nzone said:
I’ve hired and fired for 32 years now and I totally agree.....either your all in or your not. Make a decision and live by it but to dance around it usually makes things worse. Haslem should realize that there is discourse in Griz Nation and his decision in the next few weeks will have a huge impact on this program going forward.

Haslem would have to be as much in denial as Hillary Clinton if he doesn't know the depth of discontent with the direction of the football program. And this poll is no way representative of vast majority of Griz fans. Message boards are always heavily skewed with cup half full fans that think things are getting better when they aren't. I have to go back to reading the Bobcat board before Ash was fired. They also did a poll on whether to keep Ash or fire him, and the majority voted to keep him. Good thing that message board posters don't call the shots on hiring.

To be honest, I am more worried about the apathy I am now seeing in our fan base than anything else!

Let me get this straight - you are more worried about the apathy of the fan base than anything else? Interesting. Champions Center built, new turf, stadium is arguably best in FCS, fans still show up and are eager to see these kids do well and recruiting is exemplary. What are you really worried about? The fact that message board warriors hang their head because they live vicariously through the program? That you won’t be able to pound your chest as top fan of a “mediocre program” instead of a winning one ? Your worry about apathy says more about you than anything else. Realistic (apathetic for you) fans get it. The program is going to ebb and flow. The ebb came when Hauck went to the dance with a team called UNLV. Pflugrad got fired, Delaney tried to stabilize and now Stitt will rebuild. Calm down Francis. Stitt or a new coach makes no difference. Cleaning up the mess in aisle 5 is going to take a bit. By the way. If you really want to worry about something - worry about kids getting hurt, the enrollment numbers, college being affordable. The football program will be just fine

Right. In case you haven't noticed the number of empty seats in Washington/Griz, and the availability of tickets which go un-sold on internet sites, and the significant reduction of tail gaters, then you must be asleep at the wheel. I know two separate Griz families who have had season tickets for 25 years, and are not renewing them. Every year in which we continue this path to mediocrity causes more fans to lose interest in Grizzly football. You are blind if you can't see this.
 
daGrizJ said:
GrizRanger said:
Griz program is mired in mediocrity. If Stitt is extended beyond this year the mediocrity will continue, and more time will be wasted.

A change is needed if Griz are to compete for another Big Sky Conference championship. BSC conference dominance will not return with mediocre coach Stitt. Bobcat fans want Stitt to remain in Missoula for as long as possible. :roll:

Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.
 
whitefishbear said:
daGrizJ said:
GrizRanger said:
Griz program is mired in mediocrity. If Stitt is extended beyond this year the mediocrity will continue, and more time will be wasted.

A change is needed if Griz are to compete for another Big Sky Conference championship. BSC conference dominance will not return with mediocre coach Stitt. Bobcat fans want Stitt to remain in Missoula for as long as possible. :roll:

Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.

Glad you are back Growler. Kind of.
 
whitefishbear said:
daGrizJ said:
GrizRanger said:
Griz program is mired in mediocrity. If Stitt is extended beyond this year the mediocrity will continue, and more time will be wasted.

A change is needed if Griz are to compete for another Big Sky Conference championship. BSC conference dominance will not return with mediocre coach Stitt. Bobcat fans want Stitt to remain in Missoula for as long as possible. :roll:

Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.
Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)
Mick Delaney 29-25 career
Mick Dennehy 68-62 career
 
Paytonlives said:
whitefishbear said:
daGrizJ said:
GrizRanger said:
Griz program is mired in mediocrity. If Stitt is extended beyond this year the mediocrity will continue, and more time will be wasted.

A change is needed if Griz are to compete for another Big Sky Conference championship. BSC conference dominance will not return with mediocre coach Stitt. Bobcat fans want Stitt to remain in Missoula for as long as possible. :roll:

Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.
Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)

It is ironic that a person who cares so much about the kids we recruit is so blase' about the development and ultimate success of those same kids after they arrive here.
 
whitefishbear said:
Paytonlives said:
whitefishbear said:
daGrizJ said:
Total and complete bullshit. We have had two of the best recruiting classes, and another on the way, in recent Griz history. Why the f*ck can't people see that we will never compete with JMU or NDSU without top athletes. Stitt has been the major drawing factor and the players want to play in this system. STFU and give them time to do it.

Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.
Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)

It is ironic that a person who cares so much about the kids we recruit is so blase' about the development and ultimate success of those same kids after they arrive here.
That might be the dumbest thing you have posted to date. To think a coach...any coach doesn’t care about development is flat out special ed... and that’s not being kind to the special ed kids IE they are much brighter then your posted comment
 
Paytonlives said:
whitefishbear said:
Paytonlives said:
whitefishbear said:
Let me get this straight...... a Div. II coach with barely over a 0.500 record and repeats that kind of record here is "a major drawing factor"? I assure you that his name is not recognized by any high school kid outside of Montana. We ain't talkin' Urban Meyer here. May be the funniest post I have read lately.
Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)

It is ironic that a person who cares so much about the kids we recruit is so blase' about the development and ultimate success of those same kids after they arrive here.
That might be the dumbest thing you have posted to date. To think a coach...any coach doesn’t care about development is flat out special ed... and that’s not being kind to the special ed kids

I didn't say that Stitt doesn't CARE about development, I suggest that he has not been very good at it, nor at leading his team to be unified. And you don't seem to care about these recruits after they get here..... only that the DO get here!
 
whitefishbear said:
Paytonlives said:
whitefishbear said:
Paytonlives said:
Stitt was 108-62 (64 percent) at mines
Don Reed career 154-127 (54 percent)
Bobby Hauck career 95-67 (58 percent)
Joe Glenn career 200-134 (59 percent)

It is ironic that a person who cares so much about the kids we recruit is so blase' about the development and ultimate success of those same kids after they arrive here.
That might be the dumbest thing you have posted to date. To think a coach...any coach doesn’t care about development is flat out special ed... and that’s not being kind to the special ed kids

I didn't say that Stitt doesn't CARE about development, I suggest that he has not been very good at it, nor at leading his team to be unified. And you don't seem to care about these recruits after they get here..... only that the DO get here!
Are you reading my mind??
How do you know what I think about recruits after they get to UM?

I’ll share. After they sign they are a Griz and I don’t care where they came from. Makes no difference to me wether it’s Anaconda or Arizona. I hope that they are successful on and off the field, win championships and finish with a degree and lead a productive long life.

But I don’t tie my happiness to the wins and losses of a football team. Life’s to short to take a game that seriously
 
whitefishbear said:
Copper Griz said:
whitefishbear said:
nzone said:
I’ve hired and fired for 32 years now and I totally agree.....either your all in or your not. Make a decision and live by it but to dance around it usually makes things worse. Haslem should realize that there is discourse in Griz Nation and his decision in the next few weeks will have a huge impact on this program going forward.

Haslem would have to be as much in denial as Hillary Clinton if he doesn't know the depth of discontent with the direction of the football program. And this poll is no way representative of vast majority of Griz fans. Message boards are always heavily skewed with cup half full fans that think things are getting better when they aren't. I have to go back to reading the Bobcat board before Ash was fired. They also did a poll on whether to keep Ash or fire him, and the majority voted to keep him. Good thing that message board posters don't call the shots on hiring.

To be honest, I am more worried about the apathy I am now seeing in our fan base than anything else!

Let me get this straight - you are more worried about the apathy of the fan base than anything else? Interesting. Champions Center built, new turf, stadium is arguably best in FCS, fans still show up and are eager to see these kids do well and recruiting is exemplary. What are you really worried about? The fact that message board warriors hang their head because they live vicariously through the program? That you won’t be able to pound your chest as top fan of a “mediocre program” instead of a winning one ? Your worry about apathy says more about you than anything else. Realistic (apathetic for you) fans get it. The program is going to ebb and flow. The ebb came when Hauck went to the dance with a team called UNLV. Pflugrad got fired, Delaney tried to stabilize and now Stitt will rebuild. Calm down Francis. Stitt or a new coach makes no difference. Cleaning up the mess in aisle 5 is going to take a bit. By the way. If you really want to worry about something - worry about kids getting hurt, the enrollment numbers, college being affordable. The football program will be just fine

Right. In case you haven't noticed the number of empty seats in Washington/Griz, and the availability of tickets which go un-sold on internet sites, and the significant reduction of tail gaters, then you must be asleep at the wheel. I know two separate Griz families who have had season tickets for 25 years, and are not renewing them. Every year in which we continue this path to mediocrity causes more fans to lose interest in Grizzly football. You are blind if you can't see this.

Conjecture on tour part and raw numbers at the end of the season will truly tell the tale. Quality of
Opponents for home games could be one issue that has nothing to do with the win loss totals for the year. EWU gane was packed and this weekend will be as well. I would say by the number of butts in the seat at the start of the third quarter - tailgating appears to be doing quite well.
 
Looking at griztixs I noticed there are still tickets available for all remaining games. Including cat/Griz. If this was a playoff team people would be looking for tickets not trying to sell them. People have seen the writing on the wall....playoffs are unlikely. Spoiled? Maybe but it’s difficult to see a once feared team that intimidated other teams by their mere presence be a bottom dweller in the big sky. That’s what Montana created. What we have now doesn’t even come close to representing what was once The University of Montana Football Team. The coach stresses the mental side of the game....maybe he should be stressing fear and intimidation in the other team. Hell I don’t even remember if the offensive line has got any holding penalties but our quarterbacks continually get whacked. DON’T lET THEM HIT THE QUARTERBACK!! We have some very good football players but for whatever reason they have a difficult time getting off the bus. Sorry to say but they looked unsure on Saturday and even flinched a bit. I liked it when the offense would badger the defense and the defense returned in kind.
 
bigkid said:
Looking at griztixs I noticed there are still tickets available for all remaining games. Including cat/Griz. If this was a playoff team people would be looking for tickets not trying to sell them. People have seen the writing on the wall....playoffs are unlikely. Spoiled? Maybe but it’s difficult to see a once feared team that intimidated other teams by their mere presence be a bottom dweller in the big sky. That’s what Montana created. What we have now doesn’t even come close to representing what was once The University of Montana Football Team. The coach stresses the mental side of the game....maybe he should be stressing fear and intimidation in the other team. Hell I don’t even remember if the offensive line has got any holding penalties but our quarterbacks continually get whacked. DON’T lET THEM HIT THE QUARTERBACK!! We have some very good football players but for whatever reason they have a difficult time getting off the bus. Sorry to say but they looked unsure on Saturday and even flinched a bit. I liked it when the offense would badger the defense and the defense returned in kind.

I remember Bobby Hauck's O-Line pushing defenses right up the field. Our O-Line making holes for our running backs. Defensive players laying the (Legal) hits to opposing RB's and Wr's. This type of physical play has been absent for 5 years now. Oh sure you get an occasional good hit from Schye or Buss but that is all. The O-Line is bigger but still not physical. IDK?
 
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