HelenaHandBasket
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As usual, he has zero idea.
Poster: How do you get from Missoula to Spokane?
Hike: If you eat 4 shrimp and spin around twice, the waiter will ask if you are from around here.
Poster: Thanks...
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The loss of competitiveness among players.
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Poster: How do you get from Missoula to Spokane?
Hike: If you eat 4 shrimp and spin around twice, the waiter will ask if you are from around here.
Poster: Thanks...
mthoopsfan
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Huh?
alabamagrizzly
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The post you disagreed with said
You said
A RSSo has not completed three years and therefor is not equal to “by year three”. That would then make them starting their RSJr year. GrizReaslist and CDA are saying that by the time a player is ready to start their RSJr year and still have not cracked a 2 deep roster, maybe they should move on. I might disagree with this only in the fact that they may be on a very deep roster that always produces a lot of talent at their position. In many cases though this might be true.
GrizRealist
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It’s obviously a case by case basis and there are extenuating circumstances by position, but it something to monitor when a player has spent three full seasons and three spring balls and is not in line to contribute. Pretty good chances they will never be any type of role player or quality depth. There are obviously exceptions to this rule, but they are not as common as the latter.
It is not all about football as the capstone sport at the D-1 level. Lots of guys are on the roster and receiving full or partial scholarships. Good for them. Graduate with a degree and move on. All teams have only a small portion of the 90+ players who see the field. Tommy Running Rabbit is a good example, and I hope he stays, plays now and then and moves on with a solid, marketable degree. I thank Hauck for giving him that opportunity, for using a scholarship and for believing in him. At least he is not going to be in the portal.
You were not getting royally screwed as the QB of the team nor offered by an FBS program.
Do you know if Hauck used a scholarship on him?
Should be a good reminder that the ranking system for this level of football is meaningless.
mthoopsfan
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I know a redshirt sophomore hasn't completed 3 years until the end of his season, but my meaning was that he doesn't have to depart if he's not on the two-deep at the end of his redshirt sophomore fall.
mthoopsfan
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There are many exceptions. I wouldn't even call them exceptions because there are lots of guys in that category. Some have scholarships, some have partials, some are walk-ons. Many are on special teams. Some will eventually start; some won't. If a scholarship player isn't doing well enough to continue to have a scholarship, the coaches will tell him and he will lose his scholarship.
GrizRealist
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Yes. Coaches can and will process guys out of the program.
mthoopsfan
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Or, at least take away their scholarship.
So he was only a 3* at THIS level? He wasn't just a 3*?
That's what's funny about the portal. All it did was document those guys who would otherwise just disappear at the end of each season.
No no no.
Rankings at the FCS level don’t matter, period.
There are thousands of recruits every year, these “analysts” aren’t watching all of them. That’s why you’re seeing so many more players with 3 stars, it’s not necessarily an indication of talent, they just put a blanket 3* rating on these recruits that they have never seen, but have been to camps, have a decent offer or two, etc. The majority of 3* recruits today that you see signing with FCS schools would’ve been no star recruits even 10 years ago. It just doesn’t matter. It’s all for clicks and money.
indiancoyote
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Coaches are getting what they deserve. Loyalty goes both ways.
yet here most of the fanbase sits, getting excited every time a 2* or 3* is signed...
HelenaHandBasket
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Because they have nothing else to base their optimism.
GrizRealist
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I would say taking away their scholarship and them staying apart of the team is rarer. Typically if the discussion of "your path to playing time here is limited or nonexistent" is had they are trying to help them move on to a program that may better suit them. Coaches obviously want kids to succeed, so they tend to help them get to their next stop if possible. Dillingham at ASU is a good example of this right now. Knows kids are going to portal off his roster but is allowing and encouraging them to find their next stop while also practicing and participating in bowl practices as well as the bowl game provided the academic calendar of their next school fits it. Doesn't look at any of them as quitters of bad teammates, just realizes the realities of today's college football.
Yeah. And no FCS fanbase is different. It’s a lot easier to just say, “we signed 5 3* players, they’re gonna be awesome!” than admit that we don’t know how good the players are going to be and a huge part of how good they will be is going to be dependant on scheme fit and development. Take Caleb Williams as an example. He’s likely a “better” QB if he isn’t in Chicago. Jordan Love likely isn’t as good if he was forced to play right away rather than sit and develop. Sam Darnold took a bunch of coaches and teams until he got to Minnesota to look decent. Even Baker Mayfield. Talent, can be a fairly nuanced discussion, so having a star rating is just a lot simpler/easier for those who are looking for something positive, which is 95% of every fanbase.
