The Good, Bad, Ugly, and the What the Hell?

[SaskGriz]

Would someone please direct those wanting to "challenge" to the NCAA RULES. There is NO coaches challenge in ncaa football. A review official upstairs makes the call whether a play deserves another look. Coaches can use a timeout in hopes the review official takes a longer look.

Sort of. The coach calls a time out and requests a review, not hopes for one. If the challenge is upheld the team isn't charged for the time out, if it fails they are. Each team gets one per half.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Question: Did we actually get caught napping for an opening kickoff onside kick AGAIN???? I missed the opening minute and Idaho had the ball, so I figured we deferred…is that not what happened?

That is not what happened... Well the deferred part at least. The griz did get caught with an onside kick by Idaho to start the 2nd half. I was just getting back to my friends seats and asked "How does Idaho have the ball?" And a griz fan informed me that it was "Because our coaches and players are idiots"

Thank you. I missed the opening minutes of both halves and wondered also how Idaho had the ball.

 

[SoldierGriz]

That is not what happened... Well the deferred part at least. The griz did get caught with an onside kick by Idaho to start the 2nd half. I was just getting back to my friends seats and asked "How does Idaho have the ball?" And a griz fan informed me that it was "Because our coaches and players are idiots"

Thank you. I missed the opening minutes of both halves and wondered also how Idaho had the ball.

Tape tipped Idaho coaches that front line players leave early...

An elite special teams coach would have seen his own team's tendencies. Maybe the Griz need a special teams "analyst."

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Honest question, but taking a.minute to reflect on the game, how much of what transpired is really surprising and not something people were worried about?

 

[coose]

Just my gripes:
1) With great receivers like Bergen, Flowers and Roberts, it seemed like Johnson targeted Fontes a lot and not sure if he even caught one.
2) Johnson appeared to not really want to run the ball and I think the Idaho coaches picked up on that.
3) I thought Johnson had time (although pressured) to make better throws-he just didn't.
4) And lastly, with talent like Bergen, Flowers, Roberts, Knight, Harris and Ostmo - ROSIE HAS GOT TO GO...

 

[zengriz]

…is bob to busy coaching rob…
…to be the special teams…
…asking for everyone…


… :?: :?: :?: …

 

[AZGrizFan]

Just my gripes:
1) With great receivers like Bergen, Flowers and Roberts, it seemed like Johnson targeted Fontes a lot and not sure if he even caught one.
2) Johnson appeared to not really want to run the ball and I think the Idaho coaches picked up on that.
3) I thought Johnson had time (although pressured) to make better throws-he just didn't.
4) And lastly, with talent like Bergen, Flowers, Roberts, Knight, Harris and Ostmo - ROSIE HAS GOT TO GO...

1) I have less issue with Fontes being targeted than I do with Grossman being eliminated from the game plan completely.
2) The last two games the D has put a “spy” on Johnson, limiting his ability to run.
3) Johnson has good pocket presence, but he seems to feel the need to always get the ball out in a hurry. He rarely progresses through his reads; he seems to have made up his mind who he’s throwing to before the ball is snapped. Many, many times he forced a ball into tight coverage or wildly overthrew receivers who were well covered while others (RB flare, anyone????) were wide open. He never so much as looks at them.
4) Agreed. Rosie and Germer or this team ain’t gonna sniff the NC in my lifetime.

 

[hubcap]

Honest question, but taking a.minute to reflect on the game, how much of what transpired is really surprising and not something people were worried about?

Not a single bit but I honestly didn’t think it was going to happen THIS week. I was preparing myself for it next week.

 

[Griz Addict]

He panics too much. I swear, he always thinks he's about to get sacked. There have been numerous times while the pocket was holding and he reacts as if someone has their hand on him. He needs to calm down and read the game. He makes the o Line look worse than it is. He also needs to improve on accuracy and decisions. The last interception, he had 2 guys wide open, one which was 15-20 yards downfield. Instead he tries to force the same pass as he didn't time. Right in the middle on a slant. Was incredibly stupid. He needs to learn how to grab a ball too, he's got buttery hands.

I don't think Johnson panics at all. What game are you watching?

The last 3 games.. watch the replays and pay attention. The line gets pushed back a little bit and he tries to force things and makes horrible decisions. It's pretty easy to read panic on people. ISU really got too him, that much is obvious. Most lines aren't going to hold d linemen over 5 seconds. If you're going to be a qb, you have to have a brain that processes information at a high rate. Any good qb gets the ball out within 3-4 seconds. That's all you need from an o Line in the passing game. In the first few games he seemed pretty good at this but, he's getting worse every game(the competition is getting harder every game)

He needs to get on the same page as these receivers, half the time it's like they don't even know what the play is...

 

[mthoopsfan]

I don't think Johnson tries to force things much. Yes, he does on occasion. One and maybe both of his picks were forced. However, in neither case was he hurried by Idaho, nor did he wait long to throw.

My view is the receivers need to catch more balls, and Johnson needs to hit more receivers. Most of his misses weren't because he and the receivers weren't on the same page. He just missed the throw.

Again, I don't see panic in Johnson. I see the opposite most of the time.

I didn't see any indication the receivers didn't know the play. On the goal line, Grossman, or someone, seemed to be surprised the ball was coming. That may have just been how he cut and turned.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I don't think Johnson tries to force things much. Yes, he does on occasion. One and maybe both of his picks were forced. However, in neither case was he hurried by Idaho, nor did he wait long to throw.

My view is the receivers need to catch more balls, and Johnson needs to hit more receivers. Most of his misses weren't because he and the receivers weren't on the same page. He just missed the throw.

Again, I don't see panic in Johnson. I see the opposite most of the time.

I didn't see any indication the receivers didn't know the play. On the goal line, Grossman, or someone, seemed to be surprised the ball was coming. That may have just been how he cut and turned.

Do you see Johnson going through progressions? Because I don’t. He locks in on a receiver and throws it, consequences be damned.

 

['68griz]

Johnson's passes seemed a little off all game.
My son-in-law, at his first game this year, observed that, on running plays, the Idaho d-line could always tell where the ball was because Johnson's handoffs were so slow. He is a former lineman so I assume he sees things I don't. Thoughts?

 

[hubcap]

I don't think Johnson tries to force things much. Yes, he does on occasion. One and maybe both of his picks were forced. However, in neither case was he hurried by Idaho, nor did he wait long to throw.

My view is the receivers need to catch more balls, and Johnson needs to hit more receivers. Most of his misses weren't because he and the receivers weren't on the same page. He just missed the throw.

Again, I don't see panic in Johnson. I see the opposite most of the time.

I didn't see any indication the receivers didn't know the play. On the goal line, Grossman, or someone, seemed to be surprised the ball was coming. That may have just been how he cut and turned.

He waited WAAAAY to long to throw those balls. The receivers were wide open and he stared them down and THEN decided to throw the ball. This happened multiple times yesterday. And if we wasn’t doing that, he was overthrowing his receivers.

Receivers certainly need to do a better job of catching the balls that do come near them. It’s crazy we let Sulser go to use the receivers they are putting on the field now. Maybe they should put Rensvold in the game more and utilize him. That kid can catch anything.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I don't think Johnson tries to force things much. Yes, he does on occasion. One and maybe both of his picks were forced. However, in neither case was he hurried by Idaho, nor did he wait long to throw.

My view is the receivers need to catch more balls, and Johnson needs to hit more receivers. Most of his misses weren't because he and the receivers weren't on the same page. He just missed the throw.

Again, I don't see panic in Johnson. I see the opposite most of the time.

I didn't see any indication the receivers didn't know the play. On the goal line, Grossman, or someone, seemed to be surprised the ball was coming. That may have just been how he cut and turned.

He waited WAAAAY to long to throw those balls. The receivers were wide open and he stared them down and THEN decided to throw the ball. This happened multiple times yesterday. And if we wasn’t doing that, he was overthrowing his receivers.

Receivers certainly need to do a better job of catching the balls that do come near them. It’s crazy we let Sulser go to use the receivers they are putting on the field now. Maybe they should put Rensvold in the game more and utilize him. That kid can catch anything.

So can Grossman, and I don’t think he caught a ball all day.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I don't think Johnson tries to force things much. Yes, he does on occasion. One and maybe both of his picks were forced. However, in neither case was he hurried by Idaho, nor did he wait long to throw.

My view is the receivers need to catch more balls, and Johnson needs to hit more receivers. Most of his misses weren't because he and the receivers weren't on the same page. He just missed the throw.

Again, I don't see panic in Johnson. I see the opposite most of the time.

I didn't see any indication the receivers didn't know the play. On the goal line, Grossman, or someone, seemed to be surprised the ball was coming. That may have just been how he cut and turned.

He waited WAAAAY to long to throw those balls. The receivers were wide open and he stared them down and THEN decided to throw the ball. This happened multiple times yesterday. And if we wasn’t doing that, he was overthrowing his receivers.

Receivers certainly need to do a better job of catching the balls that do come near them. It’s crazy we let Sulser go to use the receivers they are putting on the field now. Maybe they should put Rensvold in the game more and utilize him. That kid can catch anything.

He threw his 2 picks quickly. He didn't wait too long to throw the several balls where he just missed the receivers.

 

[mthoopsfan]

He waited WAAAAY to long to throw those balls. The receivers were wide open and he stared them down and THEN decided to throw the ball. This happened multiple times yesterday. And if we wasn’t doing that, he was overthrowing his receivers.

Receivers certainly need to do a better job of catching the balls that do come near them. It’s crazy we let Sulser go to use the receivers they are putting on the field now. Maybe they should put Rensvold in the game more and utilize him. That kid can catch anything.

So can Grossman, and I don’t think he caught a ball all day.

Had Grossman been looking, he could have caught a TD pass on the north goal line. I don't know what went wrong.