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The Curious Case of Luke Daly (Cats Kicker)

UMGriz75 said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
The first case had to do with waiving rights including speedy trial, which you didn't appear to know, the second with dismissing without prejudice, which you also didn't appear to know, both of which were provided to show how you were uninformed or deliberately trying to mislead--I simply showed how you were wrong. Most of your deflection here is about you making conclusions and offering them as valid when you haven't seen what Luke signed, know nothing about what really happened, and called Luke and his lawyer idiots in the process. Thanks for once again proving you are the idiot, not them.
Jazus, you are a complete idiot. There, now am I speaking your language?

The "speedy trial" requirement for misdemeanors is set by statute. It's on the order of a statute of limitations. Such statutes have exceptions. It was not a constitutional question, nor a constitutional "right." The State created the statutory period.

You said he had a speedy trial problem. I was just pointing out they didn't because it can be waived. Boy you really are dense when you try to be

Read the dam case, State v. Luke:
A criminal defendant has a fundamental constitutional right to a speedy trial under the Sixth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution and Article II, Section 24 of the Montana Constitution. State v. Ariegwe, 2007 MT 204, ¶ 20, 338 Mont. 442, 167 P.3d 815; State v. Stops, 2013 MT 131, ¶ 18, 370 Mont. 226, 301 P.3d 811. Distinct from that constitutional right, a criminal defendant also has a statutory right to be brought to trial on a misdemeanor charge within six months of entering his or her plea, with important exceptions discussed below. Section 46–13–401(2), MCA. In the present case, Luke has asserted only his statutory right to a speedy trial.

And it can be waived by Luke. Still proves my point and negates your stupid statement originally

There was no agreement, no plea, no deferred sentence, no deferred prosecution. The fact is, a trial was held six days after the statutory deadline, because the State met an exception to the requirement.

Still missing the point statute of limitations can be waived by the defendant

The defendant didn't waive any "right." He claimed the State violated a statute. There is nothing in the case of Luke Taylor Daly that suggests that the State violated a statute, or that Luke was deprived of any "right." It has zero to do with this case, and is proof you are blustering about stuff you actually don't know anything about, and fabricating court cases to sound all legal beagle about it.

All we actually know from your diatribes on this topic is that you know more about Luke Taylor Daly than you do about football. I'm not sure where that's supposed to take us.

Nice try. Unlike you, I don't claim to be the egriz legal authority, I only comment when I see someone making shit up, which most everyone on here agrees you do regularly to cover when you opened your mouth on something you don't know. Why don't you just admit you made a mistake in treating Luke's situation as a deferred imposition of sentence, which does require a guilty plea and doesn't involve dismissing charges without prejudice. So far you've devoted 50 paragraphs of deflection to try to hide this stupid mistake. All I've tried to do is correct your wrong conclusion
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
UMGriz75 said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
The first case had to do with waiving rights including speedy trial, which you didn't appear to know, the second with dismissing without prejudice, which you also didn't appear to know, both of which were provided to show how you were uninformed or deliberately trying to mislead--I simply showed how you were wrong. Most of your deflection here is about you making conclusions and offering them as valid when you haven't seen what Luke signed, know nothing about what really happened, and called Luke and his lawyer idiots in the process. Thanks for once again proving you are the idiot, not them.
Jazus, you are a complete idiot. There, now am I speaking your language?

The "speedy trial" requirement for misdemeanors is set by statute. It's on the order of a statute of limitations. Such statutes have exceptions. It was not a constitutional question, nor a constitutional "right." The State created the statutory period.

You said he had a speedy trial problem. I was just pointing out they didn't because it can be waived. Boy you really are dense when you try to be

Read the dam case, State v. Luke:
A criminal defendant has a fundamental constitutional right to a speedy trial under the Sixth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution and Article II, Section 24 of the Montana Constitution. State v. Ariegwe, 2007 MT 204, ¶ 20, 338 Mont. 442, 167 P.3d 815; State v. Stops, 2013 MT 131, ¶ 18, 370 Mont. 226, 301 P.3d 811. Distinct from that constitutional right, a criminal defendant also has a statutory right to be brought to trial on a misdemeanor charge within six months of entering his or her plea, with important exceptions discussed below. Section 46–13–401(2), MCA. In the present case, Luke has asserted only his statutory right to a speedy trial.

And it can be waived by Luke. Still proves my point and negates your stupid statement originally

There was no agreement, no plea, no deferred sentence, no deferred prosecution. The fact is, a trial was held six days after the statutory deadline, because the State met an exception to the requirement.

Still missing the point statute of limitations can be waived by the defendant

The defendant didn't waive any "right." He claimed the State violated a statute. There is nothing in the case of Luke Taylor Daly that suggests that the State violated a statute, or that Luke was deprived of any "right." It has zero to do with this case, and is proof you are blustering about stuff you actually don't know anything about, and fabricating court cases to sound all legal beagle about it.

All we actually know from your diatribes on this topic is that you know more about Luke Taylor Daly than you do about football. I'm not sure where that's supposed to take us.

Nice try. Unlike you, I don't claim to be the egriz legal authority, I only comment when I see someone making shit up, which most everyone on here agrees you do regularly to cover when you opened your mouth on something you don't know. Why don't you just admit you made a mistake in treating Luke's situation as a deferred imposition of sentence, which does require a guilty plea and doesn't involve dismissing charges without prejudice. So far you've devoted 50 paragraphs of deflection to try to hide this stupid mistake. All I've tried to do is correct your wrong conclusion
You blustered this thread up one side and down the other. I referred to the fact that it could be a deferred imposition, or a deferred prosecution, so thanks for trying to salvage yourself with an outright fabrication.

The fact is, I think he should have gone to trial on the facts, and you are shouting and screaming and whining about a supreme court case that held that the State of Montana should bring a misdemeanor case to trial within six months. The astuteness of that legal analysis is plain laughable. Then you try to argue that a defendant can "waive a speedy trial." SO WHAT? That has nothing to do with this case except precisely as I stated: the more time under the jurisdiction of these "agreements" the greater the risk of being set up by vindictive "ex's," which, in my experience, is a substantial risk and it sounds particularly so in this case. Why you decided you needed to prance and whine about it is simply beyond me. There is a risk, and in this case it appeared to me the risk is greater than going to trial because I don't think it would.

Got it?
 
Ran into someone from Billings who knows the accuser, her sister and her family. Verified that what Daly's supporter(s) have been saying on egriz is correct. Bad news accuser and family. Small but pretty tough MMA girl. Has hit guys before. Went after Daly while holding the baby. He didn't hit her. He called the police. He is a very good dad. She isn't a good mom. Daly is getting screwed in this. Good kid.
 
PlayerRep said:
Ran into someone from Billings who knows the accuser, her sister and her family. Verified that what Daly's supporter(s) have been saying on egriz is correct. Bad news accuser and family. Small but pretty tough MMA girl. Has hit guys before. Went after Daly while holding the baby. He didn't hit her. He called the police. He is a very good dad. She isn't a good mom. Daly is going screwed in this. Good kid.

pretty much verified what I know as well.
 
Whoever is right or wrong, the poor little kid is going to be the one who suffers, and that breaks my heart.
 
grizatwork said:
PlayerRep said:
Ran into someone from Billings who knows the accuser, her sister and her family. Verified that what Daly's supporter(s) have been saying on egriz is correct. Bad news accuser and family. Small but pretty tough MMA girl. Has hit guys before. Went after Daly while holding the baby. He didn't hit her. He called the police. He is a very good dad. She isn't a good mom. Daly is going screwed in this. Good kid.
pretty much verified what I know as well.
I had passed along something like this back in August, based on the remarks of people who knew the situation reasonably well. Naturally, the usual gainsaying occurred and I dropped it. Yeah, feel sorry for the kid, but that's why the system has to be used to its maximum leverage in circumstances such as this to establish the moral and legal high ground for resolving custodial disputes to the best parent.
 
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