The crap that gets posted around here sometimes...

[EverettGriz]

If it was the center or a corner or a DT who played as poorly as Gus in the first half, that player would have sat for a few series and no one would have disagreed with that. Yes, I know QB is a different animal. But sometimes seeing the game from the sideline for a few drives can be beneficial. Seems to me the posters suggesting something similar were not out of line.

That said, kudos to Gus for righting the ship in the second half.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Starting with the ignorant first post I can see your plight. Gus in not a good QB and he never will be, so what if he makes one throw a game that is on the money? Anyone can do that, if he is the best we have Griz will have trouble winning seven games. You cant turn the ball over, throw into triple coverage and be as inconsistent as he is every game and not get some flak for it. I agree with the guy in the game thread his parents family and friends are embarrassing to the state. In Laurel we have a name for them.

Uhh he is one of the better QB's in the conference. I don't think that's up for debate by anyone. Obviously, he started slow but you really think we should bench our starter of 2 years, put in a player who is even more inconsistent, and put doubt in our starting QB in the first game of the year because he had a bad half? Yah that's a great message to all the players and visiting recruits in attendance. :roll:

Also will switching the QB change the O-line coverage? Because at least one of the fumbles, maybe the second-I haven't rewatched it, is entirely on the O-line

Yet the coaches were very happy with the O-line. Only ones complaining about O-line are a few here.

Coaches can boost confidence all they want stating they were happy with the O-Line, but the tackles were turnstiles, especially the RT Thiebes and for stretches they got zero push against what would be comparable to a bottom tier D-Line in the BSC.

 

[Gaeilge1]

I will not take back or apologize for any of the comments I previously posted on the first half play. Further, blaming the O line for any of those turnovers is preposterous. Could they have played better? Of course they could have. But every one of the turnovers has to be placed at Brady's feet. On the two first half fumbles Brady did not get rid of the ball as soon as he could have, (got to admit though that on the first one I thought his arm was going forward and it could have been called an incompletion). The one interception was due to a great play by the defender, the second however was a ball that was poorly thrown.

Brady Gustafson is THE senior leader of this team on offense and his play in the first half showed none of his experience or leadership capabilities. Any excuse that it was the first game of the season does not correlate well with his experience. He was much improved in the second half admittedly and played the way he is capable of. He deserves all the accolades he received for that second half. The concern is, just like last year, no one is quite sure which Brady is going to show up! No team can afford their senior leader at qb playing just one half.

I was not a big fan of Brady's initially, but have come to believe he is a good quarterback who can be great with some consistency and belief in his own ability from play 1.

 

[RobGriz]

Starting with the ignorant first post I can see your plight. Gus in not a good QB and he never will be, so what if he makes one throw a game that is on the money? Anyone can do that, if he is the best we have Griz will have trouble winning seven games. You cant turn the ball over, throw into triple coverage and be as inconsistent as he is every game and not get some flak for it. I agree with the guy in the game thread his parents family and friends are embarrassing to the state. In Laurel we have a name for them.

Uhh he is one of the better QB's in the conference. I don't think that's up for debate by anyone. Obviously, he started slow but you really think we should bench our starter of 2 years, put in a player who is even more inconsistent, and put doubt in our starting QB in the first game of the year because he had a bad half? Yah that's a great message to all the players and visiting recruits in attendance. :roll:

Also will switching the QB change the O-line coverage? Because at least one of the fumbles, maybe the second-I haven't rewatched it, is entirely on the O-line

Gus has 10 turnovers in his last 2 games. On paper he was 28 of 43 for 353 against St Francis. Guber from EWU went 34 of 40 for 474 against WSU. That's of distance there.

 

[RobGriz]

Starting with the ignorant first post I can see your plight. Gus in not a good QB and he never will be, so what if he makes one throw a game that is on the money? Anyone can do that, if he is the best we have Griz will have trouble winning seven games. You cant turn the ball over, throw into triple coverage and be as inconsistent as he is every game and not get some flak for it. I agree with the guy in the game thread his parents family and friends are embarrassing to the state. In Laurel we have a name for them.

Uhh he is one of the better QB's in the conference. I don't think that's up for debate by anyone. Obviously, he started slow but you really think we should bench our starter of 2 years, put in a player who is even more inconsistent, and put doubt in our starting QB in the first game of the year because he had a bad half? Yah that's a great message to all the players and visiting recruits in attendance. :roll:

Also will switching the QB change the O-line coverage? Because at least one of the fumbles, maybe the second-I haven't rewatched it, is entirely on the O-line

Gus has 10 turnovers in his last 2 games. On paper he was 28 of 43 for 353 against St Francis. Guber from EWU went 34 of 40 for 474 against WSU. Lot of distance there. That said, he played SIGNIFICANTLY better in the 2nd half. If he can string more than 2 good games together than maybe I'll start believing he's an ok QB, he'll have to do a lot more than that before I'll start calling him one of the best in the conference.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Oh the bi-polar nature of egriz. Can we just let this team play a few games before we are overly supportive or are overly critical of player? Yes, the first half for Gus was bad. What's worse is that it was against a lower tiered opponent. Sure the OL looked bad but consistency is the concern with Gus. If Gus comes out next week and plays well against NIU, his supporters will say a collective "I told you so". If Gus lays an egg, his detractors will call for his head. The reality is that Gus is Stitt's guy and Stitt probably feels that this O will only go as far as Gus can take it. We'll know soon enough if Gus has what it takes to lead this Griz team anywhere. If the O can't reduce the turnovers significantly, it won't matter anyway. How many turnovers is that in the last two games?

 

[Eriul]

Oh the bi-polar nature of egriz. Can we just let this team play a few games before we are overly supportive or are overly critical of player? Yes, the first half for Gus was bad. What's worse is that it was against a lower tiered opponent. Sure the OL looked bad but consistency is the concern with Gus. If Gus comes out next week and plays well against NIU, his supporters will say a collective "I told you so". If Gus lays an egg, his detractors will call for his head. The reality is that Gus is Stitt's guy and Stitt probably feels that this O will only go as far as Gus can take it. We'll know soon enough if Gus has what it takes to lead this Griz team anywhere. If the O can't reduce the turnovers significantly, it won't matter anyway. How many turnovers is that in the last two games?

this. I wish there were more voices of reason instead of people calling for his head.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Oh the bi-polar nature of egriz. Can we just let this team play a few games before we are overly supportive or are overly critical of player? Yes, the first half for Gus was bad. What's worse is that it was against a lower tiered opponent. Sure the OL looked bad but consistency is the concern with Gus. If Gus comes out next week and plays well against NIU, his supporters will say a collective "I told you so". If Gus lays an egg, his detractors will call for his head. The reality is that Gus is Stitt's guy and Stitt probably feels that this O will only go as far as Gus can take it. We'll know soon enough if Gus has what it takes to lead this Griz team anywhere. If the O can't reduce the turnovers significantly, it won't matter anyway. How many turnovers is that in the last two games?

this. I wish there were more voices of reason instead of people calling for his head.

Perv.

 

[Eriul]

I will not take back or apologize for any of the comments I previously posted on the first half play. Further, blaming the O line for any of those turnovers is preposterous. Could they have played better? Of course they could have. But every one of the turnovers has to be placed at Brady's feet. On the two first half fumbles Brady did not get rid of the ball as soon as he could have, (got to admit though that on the first one I thought his arm was going forward and it could have been called an incompletion). The one interception was due to a great play by the defender, the second however was a ball that was poorly thrown.

Brady Gustafson is THE senior leader of this team on offense and his play in the first half showed none of his experience or leadership capabilities. Any excuse that it was the first game of the season does not correlate well with his experience. He was much improved in the second half admittedly and played the way he is capable of. He deserves all the accolades he received for that second half. The concern is, just like last year, no one is quite sure which Brady is going to show up! No team can afford their senior leader at qb playing just one half.

I was not a big fan of Brady's initially, but have come to believe he is a good quarterback who can be great with some consistency and belief in his own ability from play 1.

Basically. Gus is a good QB and he's our best option. People think that putting in someone else will change the fact that our backups are simply not as good as Gus. OBVIOUSLY Gus played bad the first half.

Fumbles: 1. Looked forward to me from the student section but I don't know
2. Complete miss by the RT. I don't, and most coaches, would never blame solely a QB for fumbling when he has < 3 seconds to get rid of the ball

Interceptions 1. I didn't have a good look but it looked like a good pick by the defender
2. People complain about this one but honestly do people forget the situation? It's 4th and 4 and we're passing. I'm not sure about all the receivers but if it's 4th down you throw it to your guy, even if he's covered. If it gets picked, so what? St. Francis LOST yards by picking the ball off as opposed to if he just had a pass deflection. Again, I haven't seen the game on TV so cannot say much about the other receivers but the guy he threw it to was WELL covered so I don't really blame it. I think it's actually fairly heads up by Brady

 

[PlayerRep]

I pretty much line up with Eruil on this. UM has a disproportionate amount of fans who don't have a clue about the game and who have big mouths. My brother-in-law, who comes to a few games a year and glances at egiz occasionally but didn't go to UM, commented at the game about the number of idiot Griz fans. In my view, Hellinabasket, is one of those.

The game was very mixed, frustrating at times, and had many bad things and good things. The team is obviously not close to being "there" yet, but there is considerable talent and potential out there. But, overall, and for example. BG was not "awful". He made some bad plays and made many good and pretty good plays. He ran the team very well in with confidence. A senior QB just can't fumble twice like that. He will clean that up. One pick was a throw that shouldn't have been made. The other was an unbelievable pick.

I have said all along that I couldn't imagine that this many new and young players could magically come together to be great immediately. This game showed that. It will take time. But there are many reasons to be positive and to see the potential out there. Hopefully, Weyer is okay.

There was no quit in the Griz yesterday, as there almost never is. In fact, they stepped up things as the game went on despite the slow and frustrating start, particularly by the O. They played with confidence. On both sides of the ball, but especially the D was flying to the ball. The Griz D is very mobile. Those young guys will improve quickly. There is considerable depth.

I thought NI would be a very tough game for the Griz this early in the season, and given the results yesterday, I assume it would be an even tougher game. The Griz will improve as the season goes on. It remains to be seen how far they can get. It will be fun to watch.

 

[grizbrokebacker1]

eGriz is one of the more tame ones.

:lol: :clap: :roll:

 

[UMGriz75]

Oh the bi-polar nature of egriz. Can we just let this team play a few games before we are overly supportive or are overly critical of player? Yes, the first half for Gus was bad. What's worse is that it was against a lower tiered opponent.

Well, I think the "concern" is that of the last three games, Brady had two good quarters, eight bad quarters and two good quarters. Of the three games at the start of last season, Brady had four good quarters followed by five bad quarters. "Bipolar" almost describes that record.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

It is funny that PR etc want to call me out for dissing Gus, but if you actually read what was posted, I merely stated that Gus was dreadful in the first half and if that continues they have to look at something else. I also stated that after his final drive in the first half, Stitt should stick with him to open the second half. If you don't believe that is an acceptable observation, then I have to question your objectivity. Hell, even 75 can figure it out.

 

[Eriul]

Oh the bi-polar nature of egriz. Can we just let this team play a few games before we are overly supportive or are overly critical of player? Yes, the first half for Gus was bad. What's worse is that it was against a lower tiered opponent.

Well, I think the "concern" is that of the last three games, Brady had two good quarters, eight bad quarters and two good quarters. Of the three games at the start of last season, Brady had four good quarters followed by five bad quarters. "Bipolar" almost describes that record.

your vendetta against Brady gets old fast.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Oh the bi-polar nature of egriz. Can we just let this team play a few games before we are overly supportive or are overly critical of player? Yes, the first half for Gus was bad. What's worse is that it was against a lower tiered opponent. Sure the OL looked bad but consistency is the concern with Gus. If Gus comes out next week and plays well against NIU, his supporters will say a collective "I told you so". If Gus lays an egg, his detractors will call for his head. The reality is that Gus is Stitt's guy and Stitt probably feels that this O will only go as far as Gus can take it. We'll know soon enough if Gus has what it takes to lead this Griz team anywhere. If the O can't reduce the turnovers significantly, it won't matter anyway. How many turnovers is that in the last two games?

this. I wish there were more voices of reason instead of people calling for his head.

I am more of a "realist" then a "voice of reason". I just don't believe that Stitt will make a move on Gus. Inconsistent/consistent play from Gus, will determine this team's success or lack of success this season. After yesterday's performance, Gus still appears to have much work to do. NIU will be a "bell weather" game for him IMO.

 

[Eriul]

It is funny that PR etc want to call me out for dissing Gus, but if you actually read what was posted, I merely stated that Gus was dreadful in the first half and if that continues they have to look at something else. I also stated that after his final drive in the first half, Stitt should stick with him to open the second half. If you don't believe that is an acceptable observation, then I have to question your objectivity. Hell, even 75 can figure it out.

Uhh... exactly. ONE HALF and you say shit like I

'm sorry, but if Gus is the best option at QB, the Griz are in trouble.

when you yourself was so critical of Thiebes. I don't understand how fans like you claim to know football but are so quick to throw a player under the bus. Thiebes looked bad in the first half, as did Gus. One half of football... and you want to bench them and basically toss in the towel on the season. It's insane.

 

[Gaeilge1]

I agree! As a whole I thought the Griz looked very good particularly defensively. The coverage team needs some work but both kicking and punting were better than I had anticipated for a game one. They are in for one hell of a test against UNI, but if all the units play well they will give themselves a chance.

I also want to give kudos to the effort put forth by the entire SFU team. They came here and more than held their own against a team which was generally considered to have far superior talent.

 

[PlayerRep]

It is funny that PR etc want to call me out for dissing Gus, but if you actually read what was posted, I merely stated that Gus was dreadful in the first half and if that continues they have to look at something else. I also stated that after his final drive in the first half, Stitt should stick with him to open the second half. If you don't believe that is an acceptable observation, then I have to question your objectivity. Hell, even 75 can figure it out.

Most of your substantive posts show that you don't know what you're talking about. When you say something that makes sense, I agree with you. When a coach knows who his no. 1 QB is, he doesn't pull the starter after the first half of the first game. That's an example of why I know you don't under the game. And, BG had a poor first half, and make several huge mistakes, but he was not dreadful. He did multiple good things too. His receivers were seldom open. Note how the O adjusted in the 2d half to get the receivers open, starting on the first drive of the 2d half.

 

[UMGriz75]

Oh the bi-polar nature of egriz. Can we just let this team play a few games before we are overly supportive or are overly critical of player? Yes, the first half for Gus was bad. What's worse is that it was against a lower tiered opponent.

Well, I think the "concern" is that of the last three games, Brady had two good quarters, eight bad quarters and two good quarters. Of the three games at the start of last season, Brady had four good quarters followed by five bad quarters. "Bipolar" almost describes that record.

your vendetta against Brady gets old fast.

Those are actual facts, and do not describe a top tier quarterback. They just don't, and it doesn't matter whether he is "Bob Stitt's boy" or not. As I mentioned last season, it depends of course on what the coach is asking him to do, and if the coach isn't connecting the dots, then perhaps the player is not at fault. Similarly, your invidious hectoring gets old fast. Try some wrinkle cream.

 

[Lovethecats75]

If the first game is an indication of what we as Cat and Griz fans have to look forward to this season it will be a very long season with a whole lot more bi-polar fans on both sides.
I hope not and the last game of the year Is for the Big Sky championship.
Ya I know, wishful thinking coming from a Cat fan.


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