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The Bubble is down!

get'em_griz said:
Yes. If you don't have the funds for a permanent house yet, settling for a trailer as a permanent fix—knowing it can't handle the elements—isn't just "buying what you can afford." It’s taking the cheap way out instead of budgeting and saving for the right solution.
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So it's better to remain homeless in the interim? Sorry but this analogy kind of falls apart here.

For the record, I'm not really taking a position on whether UM should have done the bubble or not. I don't feel like I have enough information to do so. My only concern with the bubble is over quality control right now.
 
MontanaGrizSoccer said:
The 10 million dollars would of been better spent to upgrade WA Griz stadium, you would of returned more on your investment which could be reinvested into the AD Dept. You say it wasn't rushed but that kind of makes it worse, you had time to think about all the possible things that could go wrong by installing a inflatable fabric structure in SW Montana, would love to see the engineering report with all the caveats.
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They went forward with the option that fit the timeline. There are probably thousands of bubbles that are out there. This isn't an issue with the bubble approach, this is an issue with this specific product for some reason. Your argument about upgrading Wa Griz is a nonstarter because this money was earmarked for this project and upgrading the student-athlete experience. This specific situation just hasn't worked out, which doesn't mean a bubble is an overall bad approach.
 
get'em_griz said:
Yes. If you don't have the funds for a permanent house yet, settling for a trailer as a permanent fix—knowing it can't handle the elements—isn't just "buying what you can afford." It’s taking the cheap way out instead of budgeting and saving for the right solution.
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But it wasn't designed as a permanent fix.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Is getting what you can afford taking the cheap way out?
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HelenaHandBasket said:
Is getting what you can afford taking the cheap way out?
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Griz til I die said:
And what exactly is the decision?
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Everyone knows the answer to this one. Also what if someone or a team was in there practicing when it collapsed, imagine the PR and lawsuits.

Also provide the engineering reports or at least say if the report had certain recommendations for installing the current fabric or recommend a stronger fabric, all engineering reports contain these to cover the engineer who stamped the plans.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
It wasn't meant to be the permanent option
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I think that makes it a worse decision then.

While the bubble was cheaper, it wasn’t cheap. So if the plan was knowing that it wouldn’t be good enough to be permanent but do it anyways just to have to fundraise for a permanent building later…that doesn’t make any sense. Building it won’t get any cheaper going forward, and was the idea that the boosters would want to pay for an IPF twice? Cause I sure wouldn’t!

Honestly, kind of boggles my mind that UM couldn’t raise enough to do a permanent IPF in the first place.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
They went forward with the option that fit the timeline. There are probably thousands of bubbles that are out there. This isn't an issue with the bubble approach, this is an issue with this specific product for some reason. Your argument about upgrading Wa Griz is a nonstarter because this money was earmarked for this project and upgrading the student-athlete experience. This specific situation just hasn't worked out, which doesn't mean a bubble is an overall bad approach.
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You cant pivot, its a lack of planning.
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
So it's better to remain homeless in the interim? Sorry but this analogy kind of falls apart here.

For the record, I'm not really taking a position on whether UM should have done the bubble or not. I don't feel like I have enough information to do so. My only concern with the bubble is over quality control right now.
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Da Boyz Mom said:
So it's better to remain homeless in the interim? Sorry but this analogy kind of falls apart here.

For the record, I'm not really taking a position on whether UM should have done the bubble or not. I don't feel like I have enough information to do so. My only concern with the bubble is over quality control right now.
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No, you continue to use what you have always done. Rent or in Griz football's case, keep practicing in the elements like previous teams have had to do. Fundraise and save for 4-5 years heavily and then build. I dont see why the need for something now should offset the smart decision to save for a few years like other programs do.
 
The bubble sucks. It’s been a continual problem from even before day one. It’s not only an eyesore for the campus and the city at large, but is also continually failing its only real purpose.

It’s an also a physical metaphor for the state of our Athletic Department compared to MSU’s. This is the part I resent the most.

Will be very interesting to see how Shinn addresses the very obvious inadequacies at the AD position going forward.
 
Bobcat99 said:
I think that makes it a worse decision then.

While the bubble was cheaper, it wasn’t cheap. So if the plan was knowing that it wouldn’t be good enough to be permanent but do it anyways just to have to fundraise for a permanent building later…that doesn’t make any sense. Building it won’t get any cheaper going forward, and was the idea that the boosters would want to pay for an IPF twice? Cause I sure wouldn’t!

Honestly, kind of boggles my mind that UM couldn’t raise enough to do a permanent IPF in the first place.
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Thank you boggled CAT fan.
 
I find this news nothing but good. Hopefully we are done with this bubble and restore the most beautiful place on campus to it's former glory
 
maroonandsilver said:
A friend just called me. The Bubble is down after last night's storm. Looks to her that there is major damage.
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UM through the Missoulian says the bubble deflation was not storm related, A staffer on Thursday evening noticed or heard a leak and it was brought down purposefully as a preemptive measure. The manufacture's reps are on their way to inspect.
 
MontanaGrizSoccer said:
That's not what I said, the bubble was/is a terrible idea, it was rushed, it was done so that AD Dept could get the press that they were the first to have an indoor facility over MSU and post it over SM. MSU was patient and did it right. How much money and time will go into fixing the bubble going forward. A warranty only lasts so long and does not include events classified as mother nature. Lets hope they have insurance on it.
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MSU is focused on positioning themselves for an FBS move. UM is playing catchup.
 
maroonandsilver said:
UM through the Missoulian says the bubble deflation was not storm related, A staffer on Thursday evening noticed or heard a leak and it was brought down purposefully as a preemptive measure.
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Hold on. Are you saying that all this talk about inability to withstand extreme weather was an ill/under-informed overreaction because the bubble was indeed taken down on purpose? The F?
 
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