The 2013 Season, 5 reasons for & against a solid year

[uofmman1122]

JJ will make the WR's heroes. all of them.

our front 7 on D will be the best in FCS, and collectively the best collective group we've ever had. without a doubt the fastest front 7 we've ever had. before someone starts naming better LB's, ends, DT's, let's remember I said "collectively." thanks.

going out on a limb here, but think our OC situation will work out well, after a couple of lumpy games.

but...all of this will hinge on whether or not MD can make a logical decision in crunch time...like the coin toss.

I totally agree with everything you said except for the coin toss part. The Griz deferred to recieve. It kinda worked out. I mean, we only won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion.... Lol

We deferred so we could choose to receive the second half kick off but MD chose instead to kick off again to start the second half. Boneheaded decision no matter the outcome.

No we didn't.

We chose which side to defend in the first half, which let NoCo choose whether to kick or receive, and since you switch at halftime, NoCo got the first choice of whether to kick or receive. They chose receive both times.

 

[nzone]

The 2013 season hinges on the fact we will the battle of the trenches and can the coaching staff put together weekly game plans. App State will be a good test in both areas.

 

[zirge]

good stuff brint

your quotes:

Does this coaching staff have the experience to mitigate and manage challenges, make adjustments, properly motivate the team, and work together as a cohesive unit?

The defensive secondary needs to prove last year was the exception and not the rule for this group of guys.

Can our passing game ramp up this quickly?

I really hope the kicking unit has been practicing their butts off this summer.

Health

OK, then there is also

The return of Jordan Johnson

The O-line. That's quite the group to plow the road.

The defensive front 7. This group is also loaded with experience and senior leadership.

A stable of running backs.......size AND speed

Unity

only thing left is to add number 6.... us....the fans......and we are ready to rumble...man, am i happy it is finally august

 

[NLGrizFan]

JJ will make the WR's heroes. all of them.

our front 7 on D will be the best in FCS, and collectively the best collective group we've ever had. without a doubt the fastest front 7 we've ever had. before someone starts naming better LB's, ends, DT's, let's remember I said "collectively." thanks.

going out on a limb here, but think our OC situation will work out well, after a couple of lumpy games.

but...all of this will hinge on whether or not MD can make a logical decision in crunch time...like the coin toss.

I totally agree with everything you said except for the coin toss part. The Griz deferred to recieve. It kinda worked out. I mean, we only won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion.... Lol

We deferred so we could choose to receive the second half kick off but MD chose instead to kick off again to start the second half. Boneheaded decision no matter the outcome.

No we didn't.

We chose which side to defend in the first half, which let NoCo choose whether to kick or receive, and since you switch at halftime, NoCo got the first choice of whether to kick or receive. They chose receive both times.

That's how I thought it went down. I think MD has it together. He's gotta quit pickin his nose on TV tho.

 

[JBS]

I totally agree with everything you said except for the coin toss part. The Griz deferred to recieve. It kinda worked out. I mean, we only won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion.... Lol

We deferred so we could choose to receive the second half kick off but MD chose instead to kick off again to start the second half. Boneheaded decision no matter the outcome.

No we didn't.

We chose which side to defend in the first half, which let NoCo choose whether to kick or receive, and since you switch at halftime, NoCo got the first choice of whether to kick or receive. They chose receive both times.

That's how I thought it went down. I think MD has it together. He's gotta quit pickin his nose on TV tho.

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

 

[Darksim]

JJ will make the WR's heroes. all of them.

our front 7 on D will be the best in FCS, and collectively the best collective group we've ever had. without a doubt the fastest front 7 we've ever had. before someone starts naming better LB's, ends, DT's, let's remember I said "collectively." thanks.

going out on a limb here, but think our OC situation will work out well, after a couple of lumpy games.

but...all of this will hinge on whether or not MD can make a logical decision in crunch time...like the coin toss.

I totally agree with everything you said except for the coin toss part. The Griz deferred to recieve. It kinda worked out. I mean, we only won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion.... Lol

We deferred so we could choose to receive the second half kick off but MD chose instead to kick off again to start the second half. Boneheaded decision no matter the outcome.

Yeah that one had me pretty pissed off. That was the first time I had ever seen that happen.

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[HighLineGRIZ]

I'm not sold on the RBs being a strength yet. I think there is a lot of talent, but it isn't anymore proven than our WR corps. We did graduate our 2 best running backs last year and Canada is the only back we have returning that has many carries for us. Canada needs to take a big step forward if we expect him to fill the shoes of last year's backs. He needs to improve in pass blocking and needs to show he can be relied on as an every down back. Vann appears to be a great talent and had a little bit of productivity at Marshall, but he also has gone through injuries and surgeries. We really don't have much of an idea of how he'll perform with our personnel or if he'll stay healthy. Counts looks capable, but he's only played in garbage time. How will he perform in big game/big moment situations and can he be consistent? Favors looks to be a great pickup, but I don't care how talented a freshmen is, he is still 18 and has to get used to the speed and complexity of the college level (although if any position its easier to play early at, its RB).

Not saying we don't have talent and this could be a strength, just saying there is a lot of question marks about this group and it needs to prove itself. They will benefit from a very good OL though.

 

[Spanky]

Overall, we will have a much stronger team than last year, however, the question marks are WR, KR, PR and the entire defensive secondary. In any event, the Griz will have a very good year and will be a play-off contender.

 

[NLGrizFan]

We deferred so we could choose to receive the second half kick off but MD chose instead to kick off again to start the second half. Boneheaded decision no matter the outcome.

No we didn't.

We chose which side to defend in the first half, which let NoCo choose whether to kick or receive, and since you switch at halftime, NoCo got the first choice of whether to kick or receive. They chose receive both times.

That's how I thought it went down. I think MD has it together. He's gotta quit pickin his nose on TV tho.

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

Yeah and we won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion. We were in EVERY SINGLE GAME last year. Everyone of them. We lacked good QB play. And towards the middle of the season TM said it himself that he couldn't read the field. We never got blown out. JJ is gonna be huge difference.
As far as the kickoff goes, wtf is the point in kicking into a 40 mph breeze?? None, and MD knew that. Northern Colorado finished higher than us in the end and we kicked the shit outta them. Believe what you want but remember this: we took a bigger beat down in 2011 (Sac State) than we ever did in 2012. The Griz are gonna be a powerhouse this season. Gonna be a big time running, ground and pound team. Like BW said, our O-line averages 6'6" and 305 lbs. With that kind of size and add the fuel of speed and power behind that... Well, you know where I'm going with this.

 

[AZGrizFan]

We deferred so we could choose to receive the second half kick off but MD chose instead to kick off again to start the second half. Boneheaded decision no matter the outcome.

No we didn't.

We chose which side to defend in the first half, which let NoCo choose whether to kick or receive, and since you switch at halftime, NoCo got the first choice of whether to kick or receive. They chose receive both times.

That's how I thought it went down. I think MD has it together. He's gotta quit pickin his nose on TV tho.

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

Yeah. He probably didn't learn a thing last year.

 

[JBS]

No we didn't.

We chose which side to defend in the first half, which let NoCo choose whether to kick or receive, and since you switch at halftime, NoCo got the first choice of whether to kick or receive. They chose receive both times.

That's how I thought it went down. I think MD has it together. He's gotta quit pickin his nose on TV tho.

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

Yeah and we won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion. We were in EVERY SINGLE GAME last year. Everyone of them. We lacked good QB play. And towards the middle of the season TM said it himself that he couldn't read the field. We never got blown out. JJ is gonna be huge difference.
As far as the kickoff goes, wtf is the point in kicking into a 40 mph breeze?? None, and MD knew that. Northern Colorado finished higher than us in the end and we kicked the shit outta them. Believe what you want but remember this: we took a bigger beat down in 2011 (Sac State) than we ever did in 2012. The Griz are gonna be a powerhouse this season. Gonna be a big time running, ground and pound team. Like BW said, our O-line averages 6'6" and 305 lbs. With that kind of size and add the fuel of speed and power behind that... Well, you know where I'm going with this.

No we didn't.

We chose which side to defend in the first half, which let NoCo choose whether to kick or receive, and since you switch at halftime, NoCo got the first choice of whether to kick or receive. They chose receive both times.

That's how I thought it went down. I think MD has it together. He's gotta quit pickin his nose on TV tho.

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

Yeah and we won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion. We were in EVERY SINGLE GAME last year. Everyone of them. We lacked good QB play. And towards the middle of the season TM said it himself that he couldn't read the field. We never got blown out. JJ is gonna be huge difference.
As far as the kickoff goes, wtf is the point in kicking into a 40 mph breeze?? None, and MD knew that. Northern Colorado finished higher than us in the end and we kicked the shit outta them. Believe what you want but remember this: we took a bigger beat down in 2011 (Sac State) than we ever did in 2012. The Griz are gonna be a powerhouse this season. Gonna be a big time running, ground and pound team. Like BW said, our O-line averages 6'6" and 305 lbs. With that kind of size and add the fuel of speed and power behind that... Well, you know where I'm going with this.

Don't have a clue where you are going with this, but WTF does kicking off at all, let alone both halves leave you with then. It was stupid. I try to see your point but it makes no sense. Of course we kicked their ass, it was Northern Colorado. But simple, stupid coaching decisions is what cost us the big close games last year. It was a coaching decision that benched McKinney for the hyphenator, which cost us at least 2 games last year, one of them being the kitties. It was coaching decisions that put an offense that was on a roll against Eastern in a shell. I don't really know how you can defend that. I'm hoping for coaching improvement, but not expecting it , because a 70 year old doesn't really take to new ideas. I do agree with you about better leadership with JJ, and an absolutely kickass Oline though.

 

[JBS]

No we didn't.

We chose which side to defend in the first half, which let NoCo choose whether to kick or receive, and since you switch at halftime, NoCo got the first choice of whether to kick or receive. They chose receive both times.

That's how I thought it went down. I think MD has it together. He's gotta quit pickin his nose on TV tho.

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

Yeah. He probably didn't learn a thing last year.

I don't know you (but would like to meet you at a game this year) but I am just assuming you are of a semi advanced age, like me. It is hard for the older generation to learn anything new or admit mistakes. That is my take on MD. I think the talent on this team is outstanding, but I fear the coaching may be a huge hinderance again. I hope I'm wrong, and if I am I promise to join the Bozeman Walk Of Shame wearing nothing but a thong. It wouldn't be a nice sight.

 

[AZGrizFan]

That's how I thought it went down. I think MD has it together. He's gotta quit pickin his nose on TV tho.

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

Yeah. He probably didn't learn a thing last year.

I don't know you (but would like to meet you at a game this year) but I am just assuming you are of a semi advanced age, like me. It is hard for the older generation to learn anything new or admit mistakes. That is my take on MD. I think the talent on this team is outstanding, but I fear the coaching may be a huge hinderance again. I hope I'm wrong, and if I am I promise to join the Bozeman Walk Of Shame wearing nothing but a thong. It wouldn't be a nice sight.

Define "semi-advanced". :twisted:

Coaches should learn and get better EVERY year, just like players.

Oh, and I'll only be at one game this year...on August 31st. Be there or be square.

 

[EverettGriz]

Obviously you've never played the game....

 

[zirge]

Obviously you've never played the game....

:lol:

 

[Ursa Major]

Obviously you've never played the game....

:lol:

That's awesome! :clap: This has to be the 2013 season "go to" phrase!

 

[AZGrizFan]

Obviously you've never played the game....

:lol:

That's awesome! :clap: This has to be the 2013 season "go to" phrase!

Do you REALLY want to immortalize PR that way? :? :?

 

[NLGrizFan]

That's how I thought it went down. I think MD has it together. He's gotta quit pickin his nose on TV tho.

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

Yeah and we won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion. We were in EVERY SINGLE GAME last year. Everyone of them. We lacked good QB play. And towards the middle of the season TM said it himself that he couldn't read the field. We never got blown out. JJ is gonna be huge difference.
As far as the kickoff goes, wtf is the point in kicking into a 40 mph breeze?? None, and MD knew that. Northern Colorado finished higher than us in the end and we kicked the shit outta them. Believe what you want but remember this: we took a bigger beat down in 2011 (Sac State) than we ever did in 2012. The Griz are gonna be a powerhouse this season. Gonna be a big time running, ground and pound team. Like BW said, our O-line averages 6'6" and 305 lbs. With that kind of size and add the fuel of speed and power behind that... Well, you know where I'm going with this.

That's how I thought it went down. I think MD has it together. He's gotta quit pickin his nose on TV tho.

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

Yeah and we won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion. We were in EVERY SINGLE GAME last year. Everyone of them. We lacked good QB play. And towards the middle of the season TM said it himself that he couldn't read the field. We never got blown out. JJ is gonna be huge difference.
As far as the kickoff goes, wtf is the point in kicking into a 40 mph breeze?? None, and MD knew that. Northern Colorado finished higher than us in the end and we kicked the shit outta them. Believe what you want but remember this: we took a bigger beat down in 2011 (Sac State) than we ever did in 2012. The Griz are gonna be a powerhouse this season. Gonna be a big time running, ground and pound team. Like BW said, our O-line averages 6'6" and 305 lbs. With that kind of size and add the fuel of speed and power behind that... Well, you know where I'm going with this.

Don't have a clue where you are going with this, but WTF does kicking off at all, let alone both halves leave you with then. It was stupid. I try to see your point but it makes no sense. Of course we kicked their ass, it was Northern Colorado. But simple, stupid coaching decisions is what cost us the big close games last year. It was a coaching decision that benched McKinney for the hyphenator, which cost us at least 2 games last year, one of them being the kitties. It was coaching decisions that put an offense that was on a roll against Eastern in a shell. I don't really know how you can defend that. I'm hoping for coaching improvement, but not expecting it , because a 70 year old doesn't really take to new ideas. I do agree with you about better leadership with JJ, and an absolutely kickass Oline though.

He knew better than to kickoff into the wind and possibly cost bad field position. That's the only thing I can think of to why it went down the way it did. A 25-35 yard kickoff woulda been terrible. Likely wouldn't have cost the Griz the game but who knows. They (Northern Colorado) did finish the season higher than we did.
With a good experienced QB, a few quick backs, & a big O-line, I'm hoping and thinking the Griz will be a decent team. Granted the WR core needs time but I think JJ will have that covered.
As far as the TM and SSH situation goes, it was shortly after TM said he couldn't read the field and SSH was tossed in. 2012 was a TERRIBLE season and in less than a month it'll all be behind us. I'm bettin on a better year. I mean, how much more worse can it get?

 

[CV Griz Fan]

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

Yeah and we won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion. We were in EVERY SINGLE GAME last year. Everyone of them. We lacked good QB play. And towards the middle of the season TM said it himself that he couldn't read the field. We never got blown out. JJ is gonna be huge difference.
As far as the kickoff goes, wtf is the point in kicking into a 40 mph breeze?? None, and MD knew that. Northern Colorado finished higher than us in the end and we kicked the shit outta them. Believe what you want but remember this: we took a bigger beat down in 2011 (Sac State) than we ever did in 2012. The Griz are gonna be a powerhouse this season. Gonna be a big time running, ground and pound team. Like BW said, our O-line averages 6'6" and 305 lbs. With that kind of size and add the fuel of speed and power behind that... Well, you know where I'm going with this.

MD has it together? Absolutley idiotic. If you win the toss, you choose to receive, or defer. The loser of the toss 99.99999999999 percent of the time chooses to defend a certain goal. Go ahead and hinge your hopes on the brilliance of the coach, but I choose to hinge mine on a good season despite the coach. The guy was lost last year, and will probably be again this year.

Yeah and we won by 3 touchdowns and a 2 point conversion. We were in EVERY SINGLE GAME last year. Everyone of them. We lacked good QB play. And towards the middle of the season TM said it himself that he couldn't read the field. We never got blown out. JJ is gonna be huge difference.
As far as the kickoff goes, wtf is the point in kicking into a 40 mph breeze?? None, and MD knew that. Northern Colorado finished higher than us in the end and we kicked the shit outta them. Believe what you want but remember this: we took a bigger beat down in 2011 (Sac State) than we ever did in 2012. The Griz are gonna be a powerhouse this season. Gonna be a big time running, ground and pound team. Like BW said, our O-line averages 6'6" and 305 lbs. With that kind of size and add the fuel of speed and power behind that... Well, you know where I'm going with this.

Don't have a clue where you are going with this, but WTF does kicking off at all, let alone both halves leave you with then. It was stupid. I try to see your point but it makes no sense. Of course we kicked their ass, it was Northern Colorado. But simple, stupid coaching decisions is what cost us the big close games last year. It was a coaching decision that benched McKinney for the hyphenator, which cost us at least 2 games last year, one of them being the kitties. It was coaching decisions that put an offense that was on a roll against Eastern in a shell. I don't really know how you can defend that. I'm hoping for coaching improvement, but not expecting it , because a 70 year old doesn't really take to new ideas. I do agree with you about better leadership with JJ, and an absolutely kickass Oline though.

He knew better than to kickoff into the wind and possibly cost bad field position. That's the only thing I can think of to why it went down the way it did. A 25-35 yard kickoff woulda been terrible. Likely wouldn't have cost the Griz the game but who knows. They (Northern Colorado) did finish the season higher than we did.
With a good experienced QB, a few quick backs, & a big O-line, I'm hoping and thinking the Griz will be a decent team. Granted the WR core needs time but I think JJ will have that covered.
As far as the TM and SSH situation goes, it was shortly after TM said he couldn't read the field and SSH was tossed in. 2012 was a TERRIBLE season and in less than a month it'll all be behind us. I'm bettin on a better year. I mean, how much more worse can it get?

IMO there is no way this Griz team only wins 5 games like last year. Delaney will be Delaney. You can count on that but I still see this Griz team winning at least 8 games in 2013. JJ may start out slowly due his 2012 hiatus but he should be "all there" come the start of conference play. I think the Griz contend for a BSC title this season.

 

[grizcountry420]

Obviously you've never played the game....

:lol:

That's awesome! :clap: This has to be the 2013 season "go to" phrase!

Do you REALLY want to immortalize PR that way? :? :?

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