TG trying to poach our recruits

[horribilisfan8184]

Most of your "evidence" is negative; that somehow the absence of video, testimony, tangible physical evidence is just "proof" of how good Gregorak is as a stone cold drunk cat burglar, apparently. He was just that good! actually, you got that 100% backwards. The traitorak defenders are the ones claiming no video of this or that. I point to the actual circumstantial evidence that really did exist (the gun and wallet themselves), yet you guys simply ignore that each time

And he knows whose car is who's in a supervised parking lot and goes right to it! No need to know who's car is who's. It's called "car hopping." Usually done by young thugs, they simply walk around trying car doors until they find one that's unlocked.

How would he know there was anything in the car? How would he know the car? why does he need to know the car or if anything is in there? I don't think you understand how car hopping works. You try the car door handle, if it opens, you grab what you can and move on
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And, if guilty, why would Gregorak return anything? he sobered up. Happens all the time, but usually you wake up with a "coyote ugly" and not a felony .

Let me help you guys out. I think I figured out the "motive" for the "set-up." Chuck Morrell must have known Traitorak would someday be a finalist for the Tech job and wanted to preemptively torpedo his career. So Chuck was the one that stole the goods, followed him to the hotel, somehow broke in and planted the stolen goods without being spotted or waking up Traitor. But it doesn't stop there. Chuck did not want to get caught up in this so he did not spring the trap directly. Instead, he knew--because traitorak is such an ethical person--that Traitorak would turn himself in. Makes perfect sense!

Now, you're starting to say stuff that is just plain dumb.

There is zero direct evidence. Circumstantial evidence almost never convicts anyone.

Sure, he was just out going through cars looking to steal stuff? Even you can't be stupid enough to think that.

No, it doesn't happen all the time that someone who stole something like a gun/wallet/sunglasses, etc. out of a car whose owner he doesn't know, wakes up the next morning, and returns it. In fact, I wonder if that has ever happened even once.

If I was a bouncer at a strip club, I don't think I'd leave my gun and my wallet in my car while on shift. If not on me, they would be within reach.

This does have the smell of a set-up or bad prank.

 

[PlayerRep]

there was no evidence of the car being broken into the stolen goods themselves are circumstantial evidence of this, but you keep ignoring that

no fingerprints of his inside or outside the bar you said there were prints, just not able to be used. Regardless, that's what people do when breaking and entering, they sneak, wear gloves, wipe prints, etc.

no evidence that he or anyone was even near the car (the parking attendant was within feet of the car) there was circumstantial evidence, see above. Again, they sneak, and I doubt the parking attendant sat there with his eyes fixed on one car all night

no evidence of him carrying anything into the hotel this might be your dumbest argument because it would be so easy to hide the gun/wallet in his pockets with no need to carry a bag, or are us suggesting the hotel did a pat-down before they let him in?

How do you think a supposedly very drunk (or drugged) giant guy breaks into a car with no evidence of a break-in, leaves no finger prints, is not seen or heard by the nearby parking attendant, is not caught on video at the parking garage, and takes the stuff into the hotel and his room (despite not carrying a bag or anything else)? See above, people sneak, not that hard. Apparently there were not cameras pointed directly at the car. Do we even know if the car was locked?

Why do you think the bouncer mis-identified TG as being at the strip club? I don't.

Do you believe the bouncer when he says his car was broken into and the stuff was taken? yep

Do you find it odd that all of this stuff was stolen, but the bouncer didn't bother to contact police until the next day (I think after it was given back to him)? no because the bouncer probably did not even know about it until the dumbass showed up on his doorstep to return the stuff

If your car was broken into, and your wallet, gun, and other stuff taken, would you not contact police right away--or at least ask the parking attendant if he saw anyone break into his car? again, how could he contact anyone before knowing the stuff was missing

Can you say set-up? What's the motive for such a set-up? And if so, why didn't they spring the trap? Why would they rely on Traitorak to turn himself in? Makes no sense at all. Do you think OJ was set up too?

How dare you try and out lawyer THE resident lawyer????? Do you not know he played corner for Dartmouth???? How dare you sir..how dare you!!!!!!

Okay, there is no direct evidence. If the circumstantial evidence was so powerful, why did the prosecutor drop the charges quickly?

There were no fingerprints of TG inside or outside the car, or anywhere. Zero, none. Where would he get gloves after leaving bars? How does a giant guy, who is supposedly out of it, sneak past a nearby attendant, avoid garage video, break into a car with no trace of break-in, leave no prints, and not get seen by the attendant. Answer: there would be impossible, perhaps even by an experienced criminal.

It wouldn't be easy for a supposedly really drunk person to sneak all of that stuff past the video and the desk clerk. Just didn't happen.

The bouncer said his car was locked. The bouncer surely knew that his wallet, gun, sunglasses, etc. were missing, when he drove home that night. I can't recall, but he may have said that.

Rumors that ex or friends knew the bouncer, or something like that. Don't know if true.

Why did the bouncer say he had been at the strip club, and said it would be on the video, when it wasn't? Very suspicious.

If the circumstantial evidence was so powerful, why did the prosecutor immediately drop the charges after the investigation was completed?

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I will take good chemistry between the coaches over talent that continues to butt heads every day.....everyones gotta be on the same page to get very far....Big Baby TG and Stitt were not

Hard to see Ty Gregorak not "getting along" with people and knowing how to get along with people, and understanding the importance of getting along with people especially in a professional environment.

Stitt? A different picture.

Coach shitt seems like a narcissistic goober. The way he talks, his super sweet innovative offense, and the way he stands up for his players when they get an ass beating is remarkable. It's a good thing shitt decided to humble himself as a d3 coach for so long and be the savior of jizz football! Glad you guys have him. Hope he stays for a real long time too. TG would have made an excellent hc for you btw.

Dude nobody takes anything you post seriously what so ever..everyone knows your lil bro syndrome is increasing with every post. I'm sorry you're deathly afraid of the 2nd coming of Hauck and the run of dominance and ass kickings he gave you...but you dont have to hide it by continuing to say Stitt is a bad guy. Were happy we have him too bud....remember when he laid the smack down on you guys in Bozeman his first year as head coach.....that was fun right?

 

[aCatsFan]

My opinion is that Griz success last year had more to do with Delaney than Stitt. Do you remember the play calling? We'll see how the next couple of years go for both teams with new coaches and then we can decide whether they were good choices or not.

 

[Grisly Fan]

My opinion is that Griz success last year had more to do with Delaney than Stitt. Do you remember the play calling? We'll see how the next couple of years go for both teams with new coaches and then we can decide whether they were good choices or not.

One could also reasonable assert that last year's lack o success had more to do with Delaney than Stitt. Clearly the OL was weak and there isn't a thing Stitt could do about it by the time he got there. Whether you believe a second round playoff loss to the eventual National Champions was a good or bad thing in his first year, clearly Stitt's legacy is yet to be written.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I will take good chemistry between the coaches over talent that continues to butt heads every day.....everyones gotta be on the same page to get very far....Big Baby TG and Stitt were not

Hard to see Ty Gregorak not "getting along" with people and knowing how to get along with people, and understanding the importance of getting along with people especially in a professional environment.

Stitt? A different picture.

Coach shitt seems like a narcissistic goober. The way he talks, his super sweet innovative offense, and the way he stands up for his players when they get an ass beating is remarkable. It's a good thing shitt decided to humble himself as a d3 coach for so long and be the savior of jizz football! Glad you guys have him. Hope he stays for a real long time too. TG would have made an excellent hc for you btw.

Dude nobody takes anything you post seriously what so ever..everyone knows your lil bro syndrome is increasing with every post. I'm sorry you're deathly afraid of the 2nd coming of Hauck and the run of dominance and ass kickings he gave you...but you dont have to hide it by continuing to say Stitt is a bad guy. Were happy we have him too bud....remember when he laid the smack down on you guys in Bozeman his first year as head coach.....that was fun right?

So true. Let's see, msu is like 5-25 against UM and got their taints handed to them every year in recent memory. Yep, time to try to criticize the coach! Sometimes, it's like they don't even realize they are lilbro state. It's like when a toddler thinks he's Superman. You have to remind him he can't fly. Can fans, you know your program sucks, right?

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

It sounds like TG has the ethics of a used car salesman. It is sad to see from a coach that was respected at the U.

You must be confusing him with Stitt, who threw our starting QB under the bus. What has TG done that's as unethical as that?

Recruiting costs time and money. TG using his Griz based recruiting contacts as well as the U's list of recruits would be considered highly unethical in many circles.

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

Hard to see Ty Gregorak not "getting along" with people and knowing how to get along with people, and understanding the importance of getting along with people especially in a professional environment.

Stitt? A different picture.

Coach shitt seems like a narcissistic goober. The way he talks, his super sweet innovative offense, and the way he stands up for his players when they get an ass beating is remarkable. It's a good thing shitt decided to humble himself as a d3 coach for so long and be the savior of jizz football! Glad you guys have him. Hope he stays for a real long time too. TG would have made an excellent hc for you btw.

Dude nobody takes anything you post seriously what so ever..everyone knows your lil bro syndrome is increasing with every post. I'm sorry you're deathly afraid of the 2nd coming of Hauck and the run of dominance and ass kickings he gave you...but you dont have to hide it by continuing to say Stitt is a bad guy. Were happy we have him too bud....remember when he laid the smack down on you guys in Bozeman his first year as head coach.....that was fun right?

So true. Let's see, msu is like 5-25 against UM and got their taints handed to them every year in recent memory. Yep, time to try to criticize the coach! Sometimes, it's like they don't even realize they are lilbro state. It's like when a toddler thinks he's Superman. You have to remind him he can't fly. Can fans, you know your program sucks, right?

Maybe you might have noticed, but we fired the coach due to said suckeration. Then hired a new one who we hope doesn't suck. I think it's safe to say "we're aware."

Also, if you missed it, we're obviously trying to steal your coaches and recruits to make you suck more and us suck less.

 

[Sam A. Blitz]

It sounds like TG has the ethics of a used car salesman. It is sad to see from a coach that was respected at the U.

You must be confusing him with Stitt, who threw our starting QB under the bus. What has TG done that's as unethical as that?

Recruiting costs time and money. TG using his Griz based recruiting contacts as well as the U's list of recruits would be considered highly unethical in many circles.

Yet, LOTS of coaches that move to other programs recruit players that they recruited for their former employer.

I see it as a positive. It gives the kid more options to select where he wants to continue his education and football career. Ultimately, what college football should be about is giving these kids the ability to use their athletic talents to improve their lives and further their education. If a Griz recruit sees more value in being at MSU and TG gives them that opportunity, I can't get upset about that.

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

It sounds like TG has the ethics of a used car salesman. It is sad to see from a coach that was respected at the U.

You must be confusing him with Stitt, who threw our starting QB under the bus. What has TG done that's as unethical as that?

Recruiting costs time and money. TG using his Griz based recruiting contacts as well as the U's list of recruits would be considered highly unethical in many circles.

Yet, LOTS of coaches that move to other programs recruit players that they recruited for their former employer.

I see it as a positive. It gives the kid more options to select where he wants to continue his education and football career. Ultimately, what college football should be about is giving these kids the ability to use their athletic talents to improve their lives and further their education. If a Griz recruit sees more value in being at MSU and TG gives them that opportunity, I can't get upset about that.

So rational...

Are you sure that kind of thought is allowed here?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Coach shitt seems like a narcissistic goober. The way he talks, his super sweet innovative offense, and the way he stands up for his players when they get an ass beating is remarkable. It's a good thing shitt decided to humble himself as a d3 coach for so long and be the savior of jizz football! Glad you guys have him. Hope he stays for a real long time too. TG would have made an excellent hc for you btw.

Dude nobody takes anything you post seriously what so ever..everyone knows your lil bro syndrome is increasing with every post. I'm sorry you're deathly afraid of the 2nd coming of Hauck and the run of dominance and ass kickings he gave you...but you dont have to hide it by continuing to say Stitt is a bad guy. Were happy we have him too bud....remember when he laid the smack down on you guys in Bozeman his first year as head coach.....that was fun right?

So true. Let's see, msu is like 5-25 against UM and got their taints handed to them every year in recent memory. Yep, time to try to criticize the coach! Sometimes, it's like they don't even realize they are lilbro state. It's like when a toddler thinks he's Superman. You have to remind him he can't fly. Can fans, you know your program sucks, right?

Maybe you might have noticed, but we fired the coach due to said suckeration. Then hired a new one who we hope doesn't suck. I think it's safe to say "we're aware."

Also, if you missed it, we're obviously trying to steal your coaches and recruits to make you suck more and us suck less.

I think I read something about that, and my post directed at you. You seem tone well aware of the lilbro mentality. Maybe Coatch Chatch will come out and do well in his first time ever as a head CFB coach, but that doesn't change the lilbro mentality. I don't think anything will.

 

[bgbigdog]

Coach shitt seems like a narcissistic goober. The way he talks, his super sweet innovative offense, and the way he stands up for his players when they get an ass beating is remarkable. It's a good thing shitt decided to humble himself as a d3 coach for so long and be the savior of jizz football! Glad you guys have him. Hope he stays for a real long time too. TG would have made an excellent hc for you btw.

Dude nobody takes anything you post seriously what so ever..everyone knows your lil bro syndrome is increasing with every post. I'm sorry you're deathly afraid of the 2nd coming of Hauck and the run of dominance and ass kickings he gave you...but you dont have to hide it by continuing to say Stitt is a bad guy. Were happy we have him too bud....remember when he laid the smack down on you guys in Bozeman his first year as head coach.....that was fun right?

So true. Let's see, msu is like 5-25 against UM and got their taints handed to them every year in recent memory. Yep, time to try to criticize the coach! Sometimes, it's like they don't even realize they are lilbro state. It's like when a toddler thinks he's Superman. You have to remind him he can't fly. Can fans, you know your program sucks, right?

Maybe you might have noticed, but we fired the coach due to said suckeration. Then hired a new one who we hope doesn't suck. I think it's safe to say "we're aware."

Also, if you missed it, we're obviously trying to steal your coaches and recruits to make you suck more and us suck less.

That's noble...

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Coach shitt seems like a narcissistic goober. The way he talks, his super sweet innovative offense, and the way he stands up for his players when they get an ass beating is remarkable. It's a good thing shitt decided to humble himself as a d3 coach for so long and be the savior of jizz football! Glad you guys have him. Hope he stays for a real long time too. TG would have made an excellent hc for you btw.

Dude nobody takes anything you post seriously what so ever..everyone knows your lil bro syndrome is increasing with every post. I'm sorry you're deathly afraid of the 2nd coming of Hauck and the run of dominance and ass kickings he gave you...but you dont have to hide it by continuing to say Stitt is a bad guy. Were happy we have him too bud....remember when he laid the smack down on you guys in Bozeman his first year as head coach.....that was fun right?

So true. Let's see, msu is like 5-25 against UM and got their taints handed to them every year in recent memory. Yep, time to try to criticize the coach! Sometimes, it's like they don't even realize they are lilbro state. It's like when a toddler thinks he's Superman. You have to remind him he can't fly. Can fans, you know your program sucks, right?

Maybe you might have noticed, but we fired the coach due to said suckeration. Then hired a new one who we hope doesn't suck. I think it's safe to say "we're aware."

Also, if you missed it, we're obviously trying to steal your coaches and recruits to make you suck more and us suck less.

You are???? I have a feeling that may upset some people...

But no I wasnt talking about you LTCF.....i was only reffering to Dogshit3

 

[grizindabox]

I have poached some dudes girlfriend.....and sometimes even some ladies girlfriend....but sometimes I am unsuccessful....some have been tight ends....others have been wide receivers.....there has even been a fullback or two.... guess they could be called recruits....

 

[grizcountry420]

I have poached some dudes girlfriend.....and sometimes even some ladies girlfriend....but sometimes I am unsuccessful....some have been tight ends....others have been wide receivers.....there has even been a fullback or two.... guess they could be called recruits....

 

[griz9501]

http://www.northwesteliteindex.com/2016/01/12/crow-happy-hes-chosen-to-be-a-grizzly/

“I’ve been hearing from a few schools and Montana State just offered me, but I am happy with my decision to commit to Montana,” Crow said. “(New Montana State defensive coordinator) Ty Gregorak left UM to go to MSU and he wants me to go with him, but like I said, I’m happy with my decision to commit to Montana.

Wonder who else they are trying to get? You think on something like this there would be a gentleman's agreement to not try and get somebody that has already committed to the school you just left.

They're bobcats, what do you expect :lol: They like to play dirty

 

[PTGrizzly]

I believe this strip club incident has had a big negative impact on Ty's career, and talking about Marck Richt going to Miami from Georgia, SEC (GA) to ACC (Miami), and Chris Peterson from Boise State to UDub, Mountain West to PAC 12, is not the same lateral move as Ty moved within The Big Sky to our arch, in-state rival.

But it is the same as James Coley making a lateral move from FSU to Miami, and nobody complained about him recruiting the same players that he was at FSU. This kind of stuff happens everywhere. It's not that big of a deal, it's not unethical, and it's not cheating.

 

[billingsgriz]

Don't agree, and Ty has burned many, if not all, bridges in Missoula.

The bottom line is the reason that so many Griz coaches have moved up to 1A schools, like Legi, Jonathan Smith, and Dave Doren, and Ty hasn't is due to Ty himself and his behavior off the field.

Hopefully, he has his poop in a group now--seemed to the last several years in Missoula following his strip club incident and the DUI in Minnesota in 2009 and '10--and he can hitch his wagon to Choate's hopefully rising star or someone in 1A in the years ahead will give him a shot as a position coach or DC.

On the field, he was a great coach and DC for us, and I wish him well !!!

 

[PlayerRep]

Don't agree, and Ty has burned many, if not all, bridges in Missoula.

The bottom line is the reason that so many Griz coaches have moved up to 1A schools, like Legi, Jonathan Smith, and Dave Doren, and Ty hasn't is due to Ty himself and his behavior off the field.

Hopefully, he has his poop in a group now--seemed to the last several years in Missoula following his strip club incident and the DUI in Minnesota in 2009 and '10--and he can hitch his wagon to Choate's hopefully rising star or someone in 1A in the years ahead will give him a shot as a position coach or DC.

On the field, he was a great coach and DC for us, and I wish him well !!!

Don't agree with you. Hasn't burned all bridges in Missoula. Could have gone to Hawaii, but chose to stay with Choate and be closer to his son (in Mpls, I believe). Had 2 other good offers, one of which apparently with a team moving to FBS. Was never in the strip club, so no strip club incident. His behavior off the field is and has been just fine. Stop making up stuff.

What's your view of the new UM linebacker coach moving down from FBS? How do you explain that?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Don't agree, and Ty has burned many, if not all, bridges in Missoula.

The bottom line is the reason that so many Griz coaches have moved up to 1A schools, like Legi, Jonathan Smith, and Dave Doren, and Ty hasn't is due to Ty himself and his behavior off the field.

Hopefully, he has his poop in a group now--seemed to the last several years in Missoula following his strip club incident and the DUI in Minnesota in 2009 and '10--and he can hitch his wagon to Choate's hopefully rising star or someone in 1A in the years ahead will give him a shot as a position coach or DC.

On the field, he was a great coach and DC for us, and I wish him well !!!

Don't agree with you. Hasn't burned all bridges in Missoula. Could have gone to Hawaii, but chose to stay with Choate and be closer to his son (in Mpls, I believe). Had 2 other good offers, one of which apparently with a team moving to FBS. Was never in the strip club, so no strip club incident. His behavior off the field is and has been just fine. Stop making up stuff.

What's your view of the new UM linebacker coach moving down from FBS? How do you explain that?

You've obviously never spent any time in Louisiana.