• Hi Guest, want to participate in the discussions, keep track of read/unread posts access private forums and more? Create your free account and increase the benefits of your eGriz.com experience today!

Terrible time-out

Zirg

Zirg

Well-known member
Ok, it's time for some objectivity in the face of the after-glow of an amzing NCAA run.

2nd half of the Boston College game and the Griz are on the ropes. BC pulls their stud Smith for the only time in the game. The Griz make a 3 pointer to cut the deficit to 8 with 12:22 to go in the game. Whew! Big 3 pointer. The crowd roars. We got a little momentum going. The game is still within reach. THEN Krysko calls the worst time-out of his coaching career. There is a media time-out coming at the 12:00 mark anyways. WHY WHY WHY call a TO then? It made no sense whatsoever. BC puts Smith back in, which they wouldn't have been able to do without our stupid TO. The crowd is totally quiet as play resumed and BC promptly goes on a 7-2 run or something before the media time-out kicks in with about 10 minutes left. Game over!

I'd really like to hear Krysko defend that TO and his rationale. It is inexcusable to me.

Not to take away from an amazing year and an amazing job of coaching all year. It's just one call. Hindsight is 20/20 yeah, but I was instantly distraught at that decision and knew it would not help us.
 
Everybody makes mistakes, he is still a young coach and learning. I will not question because he just won Montana their first tournament game in 31 year so he must be doing something right....
 
NoIowasucks said:
We totally would have won w/o that TO. :drinking:
Click to expand...

THat's funny. We got handled because we could not rebound against the Eagles. We were standing around watching them crash the boards! Like Krysko said, "should give these guys some motivation to hit the weights this off season."
 
Okay, I don't think Zirg was taking anything away from LK with his post. Coack K is the best thing going, and Zirg knows that.

But it was an odd T/O. I was making the T/O sign the entire possesion,, thinking one was needed. But then after the 3, I assumed like Zirg that LK would wait for the under-12 timeout. I guess he just really wanted to stress something on the defensive end.
 
Another thing?

with about 3 minutes left, the Griz started substituting.
Why not the fouls, make them beat us with free throws.
there was time (and hope) left.

Actually, I like what LK did.
I don't like the resignation, but he DID give the bench players a chance at the dance.
The game, at this level, IS (or should be) about more than just winning.
Larry takes care of his guys.
No shame in that.
 
You want to talk about a bad time out, anyone else see Lute Olson's muff in the Arizona/Villinova game? Arizona got a turn over and was on a break, kid pulls up for a jumper at the same time Olson is seen by the ref calling for the t.o.. The kid makes the shot, Olson is bending down with his hands covering his face. That was a momentum stopper.
 
Having coached a few games in my 3rd grade daughters youth tournaments, let me offer you this philosophy Zirg: You were in the game at half, got a serious run thrown at you at the beginning of the second half. Got down 16 say. Then the Griz go on a little ru of their own, hit a three to cut the lead to single digits, coach calls a TO. His team has cut the lead in half, and needs some fresh legs against an OBVIOUSLY more ATHLETIC team.
 
As much as I disagree with Zirg's original post, the P.O.S. comment is uncalled for and really drags this board down for the rest of the readers.


Please stop.
 
The timeout had no effect on anything. He had his reasons, probably saw something that could be tweaked and did just that. It is stupid that we are even talking about this. What a silly thread.
 
putter said:
NoIowasucks said:
We totally would have won w/o that TO. :drinking:
Click to expand...

THat's funny. We got handled because we could not rebound against the Eagles. We were standing around watching them crash the boards! Like Krysko said, "should give these guys some motivation to hit the weights this off season."
Click to expand...

Everybody's quick to point out the obvious edge BC had in the paint, but don't forget the fact that we were out-classed on the perimeter as well. Our Senior "leaders" teamed up to throw a bagel in the "FG Made" column. At least Hasquet and Strait made a couple buckets. Maybe if Martin had played a little more, our guard play could have had a better showing.

Going into the game, I don't think there was any secret that Hasquet & Strait were going to have a near impossible task -- but if we we're going to have a chance, Virg & Cris were going to have show up, and quite frankly, they didn't. :twocents:
 
GrizFan10 said:
The 12-minute media timeout didn't occur until 9:11 (because media timeouts can't occur until there is a deadball). Matthews and Martin were inserted at the 12:22 30-second timeout. Do you really expect LK to have waited for another 3 minutes to talk to his team and put in two key shooters, one of whom had a hot hand, at this critical time in the game? Jeez, what a silly, and probably offbase, criticism.
Click to expand...

If he wanted Martin and Matthews in for offense, he could have called a TO when we got the ball, not AFTER we scored. I would not have questioned a TO before we made the 3. It's calling one AFTER we made our biggest play of the half and our last momentum we'd ever have in the game. Just not seeing the sense in that. We are rolling. Smith is on the bench. Why change that???

Also, Martin is our worst defender. It made little sense to put him in for a defensive possession either. I know sometimes you gotta sub in whenever, but to call a TO and bring in Martin for a defensive possession, and losing momentum and Smith getting back in were all bad things.

Obviously, we'll never know when the under-12 media TO would have happened if Krysko didn't call one. 3 minutes without a whistle is a pretty long-time though. That would have been ideal though, since BC wouldn't have had Smith for those 3 minutes either, which is more than a good trade-off to me. I think if we got another stop after that 3 and we scored, BC might have had to call a TO to get Smith back in. The momentum was rolling for us. It was sapped away by the TO, no question.

The other intangible is after watching the BC-Pacific game in it's entirety and in person, I saw how BC can panic and Tyrese Rice will come down and chuck a 26 footer stupidly when things aren't going good. They can self-destruct and are prone to mistakes when the other team gets on a roll. Once they are talked-to and slow things down and work for a good shot, they are hard to stop as we saw. A pretty-bad Pacific team got on a couple rolls on BC, when BC would play undisciplined. That never happened against us, and I sensed this was the one chance they might panic and put up a stupid shot. But after a TO, the coach gets Smith back in and a play is set-up and they score on the possession. Why give them a chance to set-up a play? This is why no one calls time-outs after a made-basket unless you need to stop the clock.

Again, I think Krysko and the coaching staff did an amazing job all year and are great coaches. It doesn't mean he/they don't screw up once in a while, and I feel this was a major screw-up. That's all.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Back
Top