Termination

[Griz Addict]

..almost everyone happy getting our asses kicked by Bobcats (who are building a powerhouse) and making a
appearance in the playoffs...winning (1) game to Quarterfinals .. if it is we really dropped our standards...Btw I
thought that's why they brought in Hauck to win NC...

Bobby 1 had success because he would bring in any one. Coleman Shelton Pate Freeman Parks. Those days are gone and Bobby two can't bring in criminals.
I've never liked the run first offense and that mentality without a top notch oline is just naïve. Most of the posters here love bobby and bobby ball. They blame an assistant coach for poor offensive live play. It just makes no sense to me.

Germer has been here since 2015 with Stitt and every single year since, everyone has bitched about the offensive line. Every year since, our starting qb has gotten injured(usually several times)

Hmmm?

 

[Griz Addict]

The Bobby haters act like he controls everything and tells the other coaches how they should wipe their ass. There are position coaches and coordinators for a reason. 1 guy can't and doesn't do it all...

 

[Fahque]

His performance and 2 picks against NDSU, when we were down 1, took us out of the game. He had no shot at being the starter next season.

Yeah, and all he'll do is make excuses for Johnson or deflect if asked about Johnson's two picks versus Idaho

 

[Griz2k]

Yeah, and all he'll do is make excuses for Johnson or deflect if asked about Johnson's two picks versus Idaho

And nobody seems to mention his fumbles that turned into scoop and scores.

 

[bigtyme]

Germer will be staying and not due to his success. Big mistake by Bobby if he wants to win it all, but he never has been wrong in his own mind. Bobby to Bobby Lesson 1: surround yourself with guys that no one really wants so they will stay and do anything you tell them just to keep a job even if they disagree or know better Lesson 2: suck up to jock sniffing boosters that crave the "inside guy" feeling because they will keep you safe. Little do they know they are being played and are not really buddies. Lesson 3: Remember everything you do is for you and that is because you are the most intelligent, important person in the world and your "followers" will help to squash anyone that goes against you in any form. Lesson 4: DO NOT repeat DO NOT be open with the fans, keep everything as secret as possible that way any little nugget of info you want to share can be handed out to the suck ups like a little treat/reward to further condition their behavior (ala Operant conditioning....B.F. Skinner) Lesson 5: Tell what you are going to do over and over so they will believe it, if it isn't happening, just make excuses and spin it to give you another year it will satisfy those supporters since they crave your attention more than wins Lesson 6: Rinse and repeat it is working out for you

Great job describing the current administration in office.

 

[bigtyme]

Again. They’ve successfully lowered the expectations of the fan base.

f###[#] awesome.

Nope, surely you understand that teams don’t dominate forever. Even NDSU will fall eventually. My expectations have been the same for 50 years as a fan. I say the opposite is true, to many have unrealistic expectations

NDSU has not fallen…ever…since football became a priority. And based on what we are seeing in a “down” year, falling isn’t happening any time soon.

The difference between the Bizon and Griz is that they have a machine (culture) that continues moving forward at a high level despite their circumstances (ie injuries, graduations, coaching changes). We have the inability to do the same because of the exact opposite being the problem—the HC thinking he is the solution to fixing the problem (Bobby hiring pitch) and then not acknowledging the fact there is a problem on UMs hands (what he is selling now). Bobby thinks he is the smartest guy in any room he enters and that too is a problem on many levels. Any leader knows they should be surrounded by people smarter than him/her and with complementary skillsets to enhance the team. I don’t see that being the case and it is shown through his arrogance.

Additionally, we have a staff selected from a good ol’ boy philosophy and connections from past UM days, say 90% of staff has been either at UM or coached with Bobby along the way. I doubt the likes of MSU, NDSU, SDSU has that high of a percentage.

 

[fanofzoo]

Germer will be staying and not due to his success. Big mistake by Bobby if he wants to win it all, but he never has been wrong in his own mind. Bobby to Bobby Lesson 1: surround yourself with guys that no one really wants so they will stay and do anything you tell them just to keep a job even if they disagree or know better Lesson 2: suck up to jock sniffing boosters that crave the "inside guy" feeling because they will keep you safe. Little do they know they are being played and are not really buddies. Lesson 3: Remember everything you do is for you and that is because you are the most intelligent, important person in the world and your "followers" will help to squash anyone that goes against you in any form. Lesson 4: DO NOT repeat DO NOT be open with the fans, keep everything as secret as possible that way any little nugget of info you want to share can be handed out to the suck ups like a little treat/reward to further condition their behavior (ala Operant conditioning....B.F. Skinner) Lesson 5: Tell what you are going to do over and over so they will believe it, if it isn't happening, just make excuses and spin it to give you another year it will satisfy those supporters since they crave your attention more than wins Lesson 6: Rinse and repeat it is working out for you

Ouch!

truth hurts

 

[Mousegriz]

Yeah, and all he'll do is make excuses for Johnson or deflect if asked about Johnson's two picks versus Idaho

And nobody seems to mention his fumbles that turned into scoop and scores.

He's "elite" and was either "sick" or "hurt by that Sac State hit" when those things happened. "Montana Tough" sometimes too!

 

[SoldierGriz]

I smell bs. Almost everyone I know is happy with 10 wins and just an appearance in the playoffs is a good thing

The real truth is eGriz is a breeding ground for haters, trolls, whiners and fake fans. Thank goodness it doesn’t represent the real world. These are the people that are really part of the problem and not part of the solution.

Ordigger, Thanks for your posting. I agree with what you said. Seems like their are a lot of unhappy people who post on eGriz. It almost feels like there are folks that project their own unhappiness and frustrations onto the Griz team or onto people who read eGriz.

Time to change your tagline...

 

[Dillon]

All we are saying is give Pease a chance.

:clap: & RIP Mr. Lennon

 

[kemajic]

Bobby 1 had success because he would bring in any one. Coleman Shelton Pate Freeman Parks. Those days are gone and Bobby two can't bring in criminals.
I've never liked the run first offense and that mentality without a top notch oline is just naïve. Most of the posters here love bobby and bobby ball. They blame an assistant coach for poor offensive live play. It just makes no sense to me.

Germer has been here since 2015 with Stitt and every single year since, everyone has bitched about the offensive line. Every year since, our starting qb has gotten injured(usually several times)

Hmmm?

Germer was here during the Glenn years; Joe liked him enough to take him along to Wyoming. Were you whining about him then? Yo was constantly giving kudos to his OL.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Germer has been here since 2015 with Stitt and every single year since, everyone has bitched about the offensive line. Every year since, our starting qb has gotten injured(usually several times)

Hmmm?

Germer was here during the Glenn years; Joe liked him enough to take him along to Wyoming. Were you whining about him then? Yo was constantly giving kudos to his OL.

Trend line is going the wrong way...

UM - Excellent
Wyoming - good to average.
UM - Average to below average.

 

[Triwest]

Nope, surely you understand that teams don’t dominate forever. Even NDSU will fall eventually. My expectations have been the same for 50 years as a fan. I say the opposite is true, to many have unrealistic expectations

NDSU has not fallen…ever…since football became a priority. And based on what we are seeing in a “down” year, falling isn’t happening any time soon.

The difference between the Bizon and Griz is that they have a machine (culture) that continues moving forward at a high level despite their circumstances (ie injuries, graduations, coaching changes). We have the inability to do the same because of the exact opposite being the problem—the HC thinking he is the solution to fixing the problem (Bobby hiring pitch) and then not acknowledging the fact there is a problem on UMs hands (what he is selling now). Bobby thinks he is the smartest guy in any room he enters and that too is a problem on many levels. Any leader knows they should be surrounded by people smarter than him/her and with complementary skillsets to enhance the team. I don’t see that being the case and it is shown through his arrogance.

Additionally, we have a staff selected from a good ol’ boy philosophy and connections from past UM days, say 90% of staff has been either at UM or coached with Bobby along the way. I doubt the likes of MSU, NDSU, SDSU has that high of a percentage.

Jon Krakauer, Gwen Florio, Alpha, reports of discrimination by employees of various parts of University, accusations from a decade or so ago, Engstrom. All of these are ghosts of the past (and may I say NDSU did not have to deal with) that affect the Missoula community, university, and of course the athletic teams. I still hear all of these things while meeting people around the country. We have also had so called boosters advise recruits to consider other schools (2 instances that I have been made aware of). These are just factors that still create a challenge for the University.

 

[bgbigdog]

Germer was here during the Glenn years; Joe liked him enough to take him along to Wyoming. Were you whining about him then? Yo was constantly giving kudos to his OL.

Trend line is going the wrong way...

UM - Excellent
Wyoming - good to average.
UM - Average to below average.

One thing we do know is that bozeman lost 4/5th of it's line last season, and a few others before this season began, and were literally down to some guys just above cheer squad designation. They managed to kick ass and take names, all but two weeks this season.

So are they just that much more talent in terms of players, meaning do they pick them better or is the coaching? I think I'll reference the future mayor here and note, this is one of those situations where two things can be true.

 

[Ursus1]

Germer was here during the Glenn years; Joe liked him enough to take him along to Wyoming. Were you whining about him then? Yo was constantly giving kudos to his OL.

Trend line is going the wrong way...

UM - Excellent
Wyoming - good to average.
UM - Average to below average.

The game changes... It evolves...defenses learn to defend against offenses. Has he and Bobby evolved or still trying things that worked 20 years ago? Or are we the school sticking with things we know and are comfortable with while other programs are adapting? Reading the article a few weeks ago about how MSU oline coach spent the off season learning a new way to use zone blocking and sold it to the OC. Then with 4 undersized new starters (made up of a majority of freshman and sophomores....not one senior) made our defense look like fools. Stubbornness by not wiling to make changes leaves this team playing checkers against chess. 2023 offensive line play is needed, not 2000 era line play. There is a reason the single wing once dominated football but is now extinct in college and NFL. Can't out tough a team that is well coached and has players that are also good quality. Maybe beat inferior teams that way (see start of season) but not going to beat quality teams. So if people like 8-5, 6th in conference, needing a special team led comeback to even reach the second round despite having players the league coaches thought should be able to possibly win the conference then keeping the staff is the way to go. Enjoy mediocrity for them

 

[Montanabob]

I don't measure teams, coaches, success by one season. I measure over multiple seasons.

How would you measure a teams’ or a coach’s success that came in guaranteeing DOLA and RTD and then finished 3rd, 4th and 6th in his last three seasons?

Come on man, he finished 1st in spring 2020!

 

[mthoopsfan]

How would you measure a teams’ or a coach’s success that came in guaranteeing DOLA and RTD and then finished 3rd, 4th and 6th in his last three seasons?

Come on man, he finished 1st in spring 2020!

Hauck didn't guarantee any of the things.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Come on man, he finished 1st in spring 2020!

Hauck didn't guarantee any of the things.

Nice evasion, counselor. How would you measure a team’s success that finished 3rd, 4th and 6th in consecutive seasons.

 

[Mousegriz]

Come on man, he finished 1st in spring 2020!

Hauck didn't guarantee any of the things.

Most 1st team All American and 1st team All Conference players for any 6th place conference team at any level ever.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Hauck didn't guarantee any of the things.

Nice evasion, counselor. How would you measure a team’s success that finished 3rd, 4th and 6th in consecutive seasons.

By playoff wins and post season poll rankings. Same way any knowledgeable football would.