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[GoldenEagle]

Ok, first post. I've been good to read here in the past, but the huge blindspot I'm seeing here prompted me to finally post.

First of all, EWU has not cultivated any special "system" for recruitment. Good players are increasing there because their university is in the process of replacing Washington State for various reasons we don't want to argue about.

Like NFL teams draw from, and are reloacated due to, changing demographics EWU has to do very little to replace WSU as the second school in the state. It's just going to happen and this progression is only a matter of time, not of some genius moves by coaching staff (or Administrative strategy). WSU is in the wrong place, with the wrong focus based on the growth of the state.

We are starting to see some of the same problems here in Missoula. At some point our fan base, history, legendary football community and reputation won't be able to keep up with the changing trends of our state. We are becoming the smaller school, the second choice for students and state resources are following how students and families are voting with their futures and wallets.

I'm only guessing, but we will probably be lucky to draw 10k students this year while the other guys break records at around 17k.

HOPEFULLY THIS CHANGES, AND QUICKLY!

The question isn't how does EWU "Generate magical QB mojo?", but "how can Missoula/UM dusrupt a demographic trend that will send the athletes with the most to gain/loose to the 'trending' institution in the state?".

Canary in the tunnel folks...

I have described the same demographics dynamic that BearClox has described and was met with the same caveman responses from the egriz knuckle draggers. The only issue I have with BearClox argument is that the EAGS develop great QBs because Beau Baldwin is the offensive guru that Montana fans so desperately want to have in Bob Stitt. Guess what grizzlies, Stitt is not the caliber of Baldwin.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Ok, first post. I've been good to read here in the past, but the huge blindspot I'm seeing here prompted me to finally post.

First of all, EWU has not cultivated any special "system" for recruitment. Good players are increasing there because their university is in the process of replacing Washington State for various reasons we don't want to argue about.

Like NFL teams draw from, and are reloacated due to, changing demographics EWU has to do very little to replace WSU as the second school in the state. It's just going to happen and this progression is only a matter of time, not of some genius moves by coaching staff (or Administrative strategy). WSU is in the wrong place, with the wrong focus based on the growth of the state.

We are starting to see some of the same problems here in Missoula. At some point our fan base, history, legendary football community and reputation won't be able to keep up with the changing trends of our state. We are becoming the smaller school, the second choice for students and state resources are following how students and families are voting with their futures and wallets.

I'm only guessing, but we will probably be lucky to draw 10k students this year while the other guys break records at around 17k.

HOPEFULLY THIS CHANGES, AND QUICKLY!

The question isn't how does EWU "Generate magical QB mojo?", but "how can Missoula/UM dusrupt a demographic trend that will send the athletes with the most to gain/loose to the 'trending' institution in the state?".

Canary in the tunnel folks...

I have described the same demographics dynamic that BearClox has described and was met with the same caveman responses from the egriz knuckle draggers. The only issue I have with BearClox argument is that the EAGS develop great QBs because Beau Baldwin is the offensive guru that Montana fans so desperately want to have in Bob Stitt. Guess what grizzlies, Stitt is not the caliber of Baldwin.

And you know that after 13 games? Guess what Baldwin's record was in his first season at EWU? That's right---crappy. 6-5 to be exact. And only 8-4 the next season. Bet ya'll weren't thinking "offensive guru" after THAT beauty of a season, huh? :roll: :roll:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Did Baldwin's Baseheadz make the playoffs his first year? Last year?

 

[GoldenEagle]

Ok, first post. I've been good to read here in the past, but the huge blindspot I'm seeing here prompted me to finally post.

First of all, EWU has not cultivated any special "system" for recruitment. Good players are increasing there because their university is in the process of replacing Washington State for various reasons we don't want to argue about.

Like NFL teams draw from, and are reloacated due to, changing demographics EWU has to do very little to replace WSU as the second school in the state. It's just going to happen and this progression is only a matter of time, not of some genius moves by coaching staff (or Administrative strategy). WSU is in the wrong place, with the wrong focus based on the growth of the state.

We are starting to see some of the same problems here in Missoula. At some point our fan base, history, legendary football community and reputation won't be able to keep up with the changing trends of our state. We are becoming the smaller school, the second choice for students and state resources are following how students and families are voting with their futures and wallets.

I'm only guessing, but we will probably be lucky to draw 10k students this year while the other guys break records at around 17k.

HOPEFULLY THIS CHANGES, AND QUICKLY!

The question isn't how does EWU "Generate magical QB mojo?", but "how can Missoula/UM dusrupt a demographic trend that will send the athletes with the most to gain/loose to the 'trending' institution in the state?".

Canary in the tunnel folks...

I have described the same demographics dynamic that BearClox has described and was met with the same caveman responses from the egriz knuckle draggers. The only issue I have with BearClox argument is that the EAGS develop great QBs because Beau Baldwin is the offensive guru that Montana fans so desperately want to have in Bob Stitt. Guess what grizzlies, Stitt is not the caliber of Baldwin.

And you know that after 13 games? Guess what Baldwin's record was in his first season at EWU? That's right---crappy. 6-5 to be exact. And only 8-4 the next season. Bet ya'll weren't thinking "offensive guru" after THAT beauty of a season, huh? :roll: :roll:

And in Baldwin's third year as head coach a national championship.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Ok, first post. I've been good to read here in the past, but the huge blindspot I'm seeing here prompted me to finally post.

First of all, EWU has not cultivated any special "system" for recruitment. Good players are increasing there because their university is in the process of replacing Washington State for various reasons we don't want to argue about.

Like NFL teams draw from, and are reloacated due to, changing demographics EWU has to do very little to replace WSU as the second school in the state. It's just going to happen and this progression is only a matter of time, not of some genius moves by coaching staff (or Administrative strategy). WSU is in the wrong place, with the wrong focus based on the growth of the state.

We are starting to see some of the same problems here in Missoula. At some point our fan base, history, legendary football community and reputation won't be able to keep up with the changing trends of our state. We are becoming the smaller school, the second choice for students and state resources are following how students and families are voting with their futures and wallets.

I'm only guessing, but we will probably be lucky to draw 10k students this year while the other guys break records at around 17k.

HOPEFULLY THIS CHANGES, AND QUICKLY!

The question isn't how does EWU "Generate magical QB mojo?", but "how can Missoula/UM dusrupt a demographic trend that will send the athletes with the most to gain/loose to the 'trending' institution in the state?".

Canary in the tunnel folks...

I have described the same demographics dynamic that BearClox has described and was met with the same caveman responses from the egriz knuckle draggers. The only issue I have with BearClox argument is that the EAGS develop great QBs because Beau Baldwin is the offensive guru that Montana fans so desperately want to have in Bob Stitt. Guess what grizzlies, Stitt is not the caliber of Baldwin.

And you know that after 13 games? Guess what Baldwin's record was in his first season at EWU? That's right---crappy. 6-5 to be exact. And only 8-4 the next season. Bet ya'll weren't thinking "offensive guru" after THAT beauty of a season, huh? :roll: :roll:

And in Baldwin's third year as head coach a national championship.

My point exactly. Baldwin was less than pedestrian his first year, yet you're already ready to pass judgment on Stitt.

 

[Ursus1]

Seems every time a recruit that could be "the one" the staff has changed by time they are ready and system doesn't quite fit. Pflu QB ends up with Micks system, then Micks end up with Stitt's system. If Stitt stays....Assuming he does well enough to warrant it....the above mentioned freshman might be it. If Stitt leaves, back to drawing board if system changes much.

JJ would have been better under Pflu than Mick and better under Stitt as well. Now the recruited high school kids under Mick are not great fits. But I bet any could have been great if had a great oline, and stud RB'S

 

[Ursa Major]

Ok, first post. I've been good to read here in the past, but the huge blindspot I'm seeing here prompted me to finally post.

First of all, EWU has not cultivated any special "system" for recruitment. Good players are increasing there because their university is in the process of replacing Washington State for various reasons we don't want to argue about.

Like NFL teams draw from, and are reloacated due to, changing demographics EWU has to do very little to replace WSU as the second school in the state. It's just going to happen and this progression is only a matter of time, not of some genius moves by coaching staff (or Administrative strategy). WSU is in the wrong place, with the wrong focus based on the growth of the state.

And you base this theory on, what, exactly? Their proximity to Spokompton?

Washington State University has 2.5 x the # of students, is the state land grant university, is located in the picturesque town of Pullman, is ranked in the top 150 nationally, and is a member of a Power-5 conference.

EWU is a community college masquerading as a university, sits in the shithole meth capital of the world, Cheney, has a tampon for a football field, and is in the heralded Big Sky Conference.

If EWU is "replacing" WSU as the 2nd school in the state it surely isn't going to happen in MY lifetime.... :roll: :roll:

The picturesque town of Pullman? :lol:

Cheney has far less of a meth problem than Missoula.

The only way WSU has anywhere near 2 1/2 times the number of students as EWU is if you include satellite campuses and online students...and even then, it's not close to that. ~20,000 on the Pullman campus compared to ~13,500 on the Cheney/Spokane campuses.

You're both right. Both Cheney and Pullman are shitholes.

 

[grizcountry420]

I have described the same demographics dynamic that BearClox has described and was met with the same caveman responses from the egriz knuckle draggers. The only issue I have with BearClox argument is that the EAGS develop great QBs because Beau Baldwin is the offensive guru that Montana fans so desperately want to have in Bob Stitt. Guess what grizzlies, Stitt is not the caliber of Baldwin.

And you know that after 13 games? Guess what Baldwin's record was in his first season at EWU? That's right---crappy. 6-5 to be exact. And only 8-4 the next season. Bet ya'll weren't thinking "offensive guru" after THAT beauty of a season, huh? :roll: :roll:

And in Baldwin's third year as head coach a national championship.

My point exactly. Baldwin was less than pedestrian his first year, yet you're already ready to pass judgment on Stitt.

Do you expect anything less from that douche?

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Guess what grizzlies, Stitt is not the caliber of Baldwin.

Apparently not. Stitt is 1-0 against Baldwin. And as I recall, it was a fucking blowout. Stitt is a much higher caliber.

 

[get'em_griz]

Guess what grizzlies, Stitt is not the caliber of Baldwin.

Apparently not. Stitt is 1-0 against Baldwin. And as I recall, it was a f***[*] blowout. Stitt is a much higher caliber.

Exactly what I was going to say!

Let's also compare Baldwin's record against previous Griz head coaches.

2008: vs Bobby Hauck L 3-19
2009: vs Bobby Hauck L 34-41
2010: vs Robin Pflugrad W 36-27
2011: vs Robin Pflugrad L 14-17
2012: vs Mick Delaney W 32-26
2013: vs Mick Delaney W 42-37
2014: vs Mick Delaney W 36-26
2014: vs Mick Delaney W 37-20
2015: vs Bob Stitt L 16-57 :shock: