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Team talent level on a scale from 1-10

I'll play.
Offense:
QB - 7 (Sneed is an unknown - from what I’ve seen so far I think a 7 is fair)
RB - 8 (Good depth)
OL - 5 (super young but good signs with size/athleticism. I expect this to improve throughout the season)
WR - 9 (great athletes and depth)

Defense
DL - 7 (No dominant edge rusher)
LB - 7 (Buss is a 9+)
DB - 5 (biggest need. I’m high on our safeties right now and they could grade out a 9, but we’re young and thin at corner)

Teams are affected disproportionately at all of our weak spots - QB/OL/DB. In fact, this team is almost the inverse of the 1995 championship team (when your QB and OL are 10’s, you’re gonna be successful). Of course, that team also had better linebackers and D-line (I'll take WR and RB on this team though).

Overall - 6
OL and DB bring us down to that number, which is exactly where we thought we’d be. This is a playoff bubble team once again.

As fans, we hope this young OL coalesces and overachieves, and Sneed proves to be as elusive as he looks, consistently buys time, and hits our playmakers downfield. We can hope our corners improve every week and stay healthy, the transfer safety continues to look like a beast, Sandry returns to form and has a much better season with a healed ankle, we plug more linebackers into our ridiculous lineage at that position, and we find an edge rusher.

If all that happens and we get lucky, this could be a semi-final team. If none of it happens and we’re unlucky with injuries, we’ll miss the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row.
Betting side of me takes the middle road. My forecast is a team that gets 1 win in the playoffs.
 
Diesel said:
what is the scale?
1-5 too weak to compete for Big Sky Title
6-8 competitive in Big Sky and possible play off team
9-10 top tier favorite to win Big Sky and compete for NC

Just a thought

6.5 right now, could improve with transfers/depth, could sink with more departures.

Edit: breaking it down like Rural Juror did above:

QB: 6 - If Sneed keeps improving we'll be fine, no depth right now
RB: 7 - Good group but no one guy that can shoulder the workload
WR: 9 - Awesome talent, maybe best group of players we have
TE: 6.5 - Bingham's going to be great, everyone else is a 1st year convert
OL: 6 - Starting 5 I like, 2 or 3 in depth can help, very inexperienced

Offense overall: 7

DL: 7.5 - Interior DL could be the best we've seen in over a decade, need Edge guys to step up
LB: 6.5 - More unknowns beyond Buss
CB: 4 - has the size & speed, almost all lack good experience outside of Nash
S: 8 - maybe a sugar coater/homer pick but I like this group a lot

Defense overall: 6.5

K/P: 8 - we're in good shape here

ST groups: 6 - I expect improvement but there's going to be reliance on a lot of untested guys
 
BWahlberg said:
Diesel said:
what is the scale?
1-5 too weak to compete for Big Sky Title
6-8 competitive in Big Sky and possible play off team
9-10 top tier favorite to win Big Sky and compete for NC

Just a thought

6.5 right now, could improve with transfers/depth, could sink with more departures.

Careful or you will lose the "sugar-coater" label.
 
Talent level: average-above average
Head Coach: superior
Assistant Coaches: superior
Season Record: win all but one or two games
Griz/state college Result: Griz win by 3 touchdowns
 
Spanky2 said:
Talent level: average-above average
Head Coach: superior
Assistant Coaches: superior
Season Record: win all but one or two games
Griz/state college Result: Griz win by 3 touchdowns

If you are giving 21 points...I will take that bet.
 
IntuitiveGriz said:
alabamagrizzly said:
Since my opinion has absolutely no bearing on how good or bad this team may be, I’m gonna say somewhere between 1-10. Now some of you may say that I’m taking the easy way out with my answer but at the end of the day, I’ll guarantee that I’m right and some of you are wrong.

Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. -- Theodore Roosevelt

:lol: :thumb:

“A coward dies 1,000 deaths. A soldier dies but once”-Shakespeare via Tupac. 8-) :thumb:

Your right IG. I’ll narrow it down to 7-8. We got exceptional talent at a lot of positions but very green at a couple others and severely lacking depth in too many.
 
BWahlberg said:
Diesel said:
what is the scale?
1-5 too weak to compete for Big Sky Title
6-8 competitive in Big Sky and possible play off team
9-10 top tier favorite to win Big Sky and compete for NC

Just a thought

6.5 right now, could improve with transfers/depth, could sink with more departures. [7]

Edit: breaking it down like Rural Juror did above:

QB: 6 - If Sneed keeps improving we'll be fine, no depth right now [8]
RB: 7 - Good group but no one guy that can shoulder the workload
WR: 9 - Awesome talent, maybe best group of players we have [8]
TE: 6.5 - Bingham's going to be great, everyone else is a 1st year convert [7.5, Bingham will have great year]
OL: 6 - Starting 5 I like, 2 or 3 in depth can help, very inexperienced [Yes, 6 now, but I'm hoping for 7 or more]

Offense overall: 7 [7.5 and hoping for more]

DL: 7.5 - Interior DL could be the best we've seen in over a decade, need Edge guys to step up [8]
LB: 6.5 - More unknowns beyond Buss [Yes, 6 or so, but hoping for more]
CB: 4 - has the size & speed, almost all lack good experience outside of Nash
S: 8 - maybe a sugar coater/homer pick but I like this group a lot [8 is too high]

Defense overall: 6.5 [Yes, D is a concern but I'm hoping the coaches and players make it better]

K/P: 8 - we're in good shape here [8, punter, 7, kicker]

ST groups: 6 - I expect improvement but there's going to be reliance on a lot of untested guys [8]
[8]

My ratings are embedded in Brint's post in brackets.
 
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
8 prior to Gresch's departure; 6 now.

So the apparent no. 2 qb departs, and the talent level of the team drops from 8 to 6? Interesting. This sounds a bit like the Cat view that their backups are better than their starters.

I see it as a proven commodity departing leaving the QB depth extraordinarily thin, led by a guy *who couldn't handle a little competition and quit at a woefully awful fbs program. If and when Snead proves something and if and when he stays healthy all year and we're not playing a defensive tackle at QB, I'll be happy to re-rate. Right now most definitely a six.


*This does not necessarily reflect the view of the given poster, but rather simply uses the nomenclature of many on this board to describe similar situations.
 
At the Signing Day socials it was indicated they had more than a couple scholarships left combined with those that have left I'm guessing we have 5 Plus scholarships. If B H can bring in the right transfers we can go from a current 6/7 to a potential 8, maybe better. I think we're going to be fine. I have a lot of confidence in Bobby bringing the right people to Montana
 
Rural Juror said:
I'll play.
Offense:
QB - 7 (Sneed is an unknown - from what I’ve seen so far I think a 7 is fair)
RB - 8 (Good depth)
OL - 5 (super young but good signs with size/athleticism. I expect this to improve throughout the season)
WR - 9 (great athletes and depth)

Defense
DL - 7 (No dominant edge rusher)
LB - 7 (Buss is a 9+)
DB - 5 (biggest need. I’m high on our safeties right now and they could grade out a 9, but we’re young and thin at corner)

Teams are affected disproportionately at all of our weak spots - QB/OL/DB. In fact, this team is almost the inverse of the 1995 championship team (when your QB and OL are 10’s, you’re gonna be successful). Of course, that team also had better linebackers and D-line (I'll take WR and RB on this team though).

Overall - 6
OL and DB bring us down to that number, which is exactly where we thought we’d be. This is a playoff bubble team once again.

As fans, we hope this young OL coalesces and overachieves, and Sneed proves to be as elusive as he looks, consistently buys time, and hits our playmakers downfield. We can hope our corners improve every week and stay healthy, the transfer safety continues to look like a beast, Sandry returns to form and has a much better season with a healed ankle, we plug more linebackers into our ridiculous lineage at that position, and we find an edge rusher.

If all that happens and we get lucky, this could be a semi-final team. If none of it happens and we’re unlucky with injuries, we’ll miss the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row.
Betting side of me takes the middle road. My forecast is a team that gets 1 win in the playoffs.

I'm not sure when you came on board Egriz Mr. Juror but this evaluation is right on IMO. Except I would give Sneed a 5 until he proves he can throw a deep ball on target. Other than that, and with hopes for a quality QB transfer, I agree with everything else. Keep "playing" dude.
 
Rural Juror said:
I'll play.
Offense:
QB - 7 (Sneed is an unknown - from what I’ve seen so far I think a 7 is fair)
RB - 8 (Good depth)
OL - 5 (super young but good signs with size/athleticism. I expect this to improve throughout the season)
WR - 9 (great athletes and depth)

Defense
DL - 7 (No dominant edge rusher)
LB - 7 (Buss is a 9+)
DB - 5 (biggest need. I’m high on our safeties right now and they could grade out a 9, but we’re young and thin at corner)

Teams are affected disproportionately at all of our weak spots - QB/OL/DB. In fact, this team is almost the inverse of the 1995 championship team (when your QB and OL are 10’s, you’re gonna be successful). Of course, that team also had better linebackers and D-line (I'll take WR and RB on this team though).

Overall - 6
OL and DB bring us down to that number, which is exactly where we thought we’d be. This is a playoff bubble team once again.

As fans, we hope this young OL coalesces and overachieves, and Sneed proves to be as elusive as he looks, consistently buys time, and hits our playmakers downfield. We can hope our corners improve every week and stay healthy, the transfer safety continues to look like a beast, Sandry returns to form and has a much better season with a healed ankle, we plug more linebackers into our ridiculous lineage at that position, and we find an edge rusher.

If all that happens and we get lucky, this could be a semi-final team. If none of it happens and we’re unlucky with injuries, we’ll miss the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row.
Betting side of me takes the middle road. My forecast is a team that gets 1 win in the playoffs.

Awesome post. Keep it up! I agree with everything you said; but I am more reserved with my final assessment (will definitely change after summer camp). You said you forecast a win in the playoffs, I am not sure I see that. I also don't know if I see a playoff win with this team as is. IF QB can stay healthy, I think there is a shot. Unfortunately, we haven't had a full season of a healthy QB since....a long time. And we also have a young OL....But I still think these boys can surprise a lot of people, and I have total faith that they will give it all they have.
 
6 - So many questions about this team that should get answered in the first few games. QBs, OL, Corners and depth are a concern as many have mentioned but I’ve seen situations like this in the past where guys step up and and surprise the hell out of me. (Yes the other way too) I think this coaching staff and group of players will give it hell and likely steer the program in a good direction moving forward!
 
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
8 prior to Gresch's departure; 6 now.

So the apparent no. 2 qb departs, and the talent level of the team drops from 8 to 6? Interesting. This sounds a bit like the Cat view that their backups are better than their starters.

I see it as a proven commodity departing leaving the QB depth extraordinarily thin, led by a guy *who couldn't handle a little competition and quit at a woefully awful fbs program. If and when Snead proves something and if and when he stays healthy all year and we're not playing a defensive tackle at QB, I'll be happy to re-rate. Right now most definitely a six.


*This does not necessarily reflect the view of the given poster, but rather simply uses the nomenclature of many on this board to describe similar situations.

You must not have attendeded the scrimmage or been to any practices, or talked to any coaches. Sneed looked terrific in the scrimmage. I agree that Jensen's departure leaves UM thin at QB, and that UM would be hurting if Sneed went down (if a good backup isn't obtained). But I base my views on the personnel who are here and healthy. If Sneed was going to be the starter (and didn't get hurt), then the loss of Jensen is not very significant. If all of our good players get hurt, then I too would drop my ratings.
 
The fact that Hauck has said several times that this team wants to win and work hard, gives me confidence that the team will find a way to win some games.
 
Rural Juror said:
I'll play.
Offense:
QB - 7 (Sneed is an unknown - from what I’ve seen so far I think a 7 is fair)
RB - 8 (Good depth)
OL - 5 (super young but good signs with size/athleticism. I expect this to improve throughout the season)
WR - 9 (great athletes and depth)

Defense
DL - 7 (No dominant edge rusher)
LB - 7 (Buss is a 9+)
DB - 5 (biggest need. I’m high on our safeties right now and they could grade out a 9, but we’re young and thin at corner)

Teams are affected disproportionately at all of our weak spots - QB/OL/DB. In fact, this team is almost the inverse of the 1995 championship team (when your QB and OL are 10’s, you’re gonna be successful). Of course, that team also had better linebackers and D-line (I'll take WR and RB on this team though).

Overall - 6
OL and DB bring us down to that number, which is exactly where we thought we’d be. This is a playoff bubble team once again.

As fans, we hope this young OL coalesces and overachieves, and Sneed proves to be as elusive as he looks, consistently buys time, and hits our playmakers downfield. We can hope our corners improve every week and stay healthy, the transfer safety continues to look like a beast, Sandry returns to form and has a much better season with a healed ankle, we plug more linebackers into our ridiculous lineage at that position, and we find an edge rusher.

If all that happens and we get lucky, this could be a semi-final team. If none of it happens and we’re unlucky with injuries, we’ll miss the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row.
Betting side of me takes the middle road. My forecast is a team that gets 1 win in the playoffs.

Good post! Welcome to the board. Post more please.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
Since my opinion has absolutely no bearing on how good or bad this team may be, I’m gonna say somewhere between 1-10. Now some of you may say that I’m taking the easy way out with my answer but at the end of the day, I’ll guarantee that I’m right and some of you are wrong.
you may be right on the surface. got to give it a point of reference though, 2-9 are points somewhere
between 1-10 there are no points between 1-10 there is only 1 or 10.
 

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