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Targeting
- Thread starter reinell30
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+1 close but not conclusive.
putter said:
alabamagrizzly
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GrizTexas said:
Does targeting have to be helmet to helmet contact or can you still get targeting called if u lead with your helmet into say a shoulder or the chest? Robertson did lead with his helmet while Robbie did not but neither made contact with the helmet. Both hit the shoulder from what I could tell while watching it on tv. Of course the idiot commentators were shocked by Robertson’s and agreeed that Robbies wasn’t as bad.
What a lot of people forget to take into account as well is if the receiver changes his body or curls up for impact and lowers his head as well. Sometimes the tackler is going to make a textbook tackle but because of what the receiver or running back does in reaction to it can almost create the targeting. It sounds like they are looking at that piece a lot more.
Targeting is defined as forcible contact to the head or neck. Neither hit fits that bill. A booth review doesn’t seem to have the burden of proof like overturning a call on the field does. If you look closely you will see that Robertson’s contact was to the shoulder. It was so forceful that Limu-Jones’ head whiplashed.
william said:
The conversation matters because targeting is a penalty with huge ramifications and even with recent changes to the wording, it's still difficult for the officials to be consistent with it.
HelenaHandBasket
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What is the rule on targeting in college football?
The 2019 NCAA Rule Book defines targeting as when a player "takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or legal block or playing the ball."
The NCAA targeting rule bans any forcible contact leading with the crown of the helmet or to the head or neck area of a defenseless player.
What are some examples of targeting?
Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
A player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
A player leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
A player lowering his head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet.
The 2019 NCAA Rule Book defines targeting as when a player "takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or legal block or playing the ball."
The NCAA targeting rule bans any forcible contact leading with the crown of the helmet or to the head or neck area of a defenseless player.
What are some examples of targeting?
Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
A player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
A player leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
A player lowering his head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet.
Some written Indicators per the NCAA
Launch — a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
There is also a whole separate category for defenseless players which these two were not.
The worst part of the rule is even with objective indicators there is subjectivity to the call depending on the officials on the field or in the booth/office. The rule itself states when in doubt to err on the side of the foul.
That would make sense if it was simply a penalty, but when it involves an immediate ejection, it should err more on the side of keeping players eligible especially in bang/bang plays. Hauck and many other coaches believe that is overofficiated and takes away from the game.
Launch — a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
There is also a whole separate category for defenseless players which these two were not.
The worst part of the rule is even with objective indicators there is subjectivity to the call depending on the officials on the field or in the booth/office. The rule itself states when in doubt to err on the side of the foul.
That would make sense if it was simply a penalty, but when it involves an immediate ejection, it should err more on the side of keeping players eligible especially in bang/bang plays. Hauck and many other coaches believe that is overofficiated and takes away from the game.
