Stitt's Ego/Inflexibility

[Umista]

Willy Phlug probably will become the QB coach Stitt will be playing next season. He was better in practice than any of the QBs in my opinion.
The pressure of being the Griz head coach is way more than most realize. It is having an effect on Stitt and I think he is paying attention to all of the criticism. I think he under estimated this when he took the job. I sized him up last summer when I met him and visited with him. This guy is smart and a quick thinker. I liked him then and still do.
Like everyone I have not liked the way the Griz have played this season and have my doubts the final two games will change. But like and old dog I believe in my Griz and hope like hell we win these last two and I am in this thing way after the fat lady sings.

 

[Stanley]

I'm just going to say that the biggest difference between CSM's current quarterback (Justin Dvorak) and Makena Simis is the amount of time both guys had to learn this system.

Justin Dvorak red shirted in 2012, which gave him a full season to learn Stitt's system. He then appeared in nine games with three starts in 2013. In 2014, he started all 12 games. Yeah, he's going to be as good as he is now because he's had a lot of time to learn this system. Makena Simis hasn't had that luxury, and neither has any of our other quarterbacks. We are heading to our 10th game of the 1st season with three quarterbacks who have played due to injuries. Like Stitt said, Gustafson is the one who understands the system the most which is why he is Stitt's guy for now. Just wait, you'll start seeing our other QBs like Willy Pflug or Jensen take over and run this offense efficiently like Justin Dvorak simply because they'll have had the luxury of sitting back and studying the playbook.

Bingo. Implementing a system takes time. Who I knows what Brady would look like if he had the whole season under his belt. Same for Simis.

And to think it is impossible that teams have adjusted to a QB who has shown to have happy feet and not go through his progressions is ridiculous. We are what we are, everyone has blame, but to say that Stitt is the reason for Simis poor play last two games is bull shit. And he isn't yelling at him, he is coaching him hard and showing frustration because it appears what they practice during the week in regards to progressions and stepping up in the pocket seems to be disappearing come game time.

Exactly. Hence the observation that Makena needs to respond better to coaching and criticism. One can assume that Dvorak came to CSM with his imperfections but overcame them through hard work, coaching and repetition. Now that Makena has left the shadows of third string and been thrust into the spotlight, it may provide him a greater sense of urgency to improve. Perhaps a degree of seperation from coach Stitt by involving Selles more could get the kid to relax and improve his focus.

 

[UMGriz75]

Let me ask you a question then...what should Stitt be looking for in a QB recruit? You must know since you have crunched all the numbers...I will wait patiently...

Please, hold your breath too.

Of course, as usual, you have this backwards. I am trying to understand Stitt's strategy and how he is responding to the various challenges, and how does that 1) impact the QB success and 2) impact the game outcomes. That's an analytical process. As the games unfold with additional data, and some of the data is unflattering, you claim "it doesn't matter, Stitt will recruit new QB's that will deliver what he wants."

"OK," I asked. "How?"

From my perspective, if you don't know what he's actually trying to do now, how did you get so preternaturally wise as to know what he wants in the future? And, just "knowing what he wants" doesn't mean he can find it or get it, but you seem remarkably confident about that as well, as that's all a coach has to do, is "want a particular kind of athlete" and voila', there they are! When you are asked how a recruit would be distinguished from any of the current QB's, based on what they looked like their senior HS games, you can't answer. When I proposed, "you know, I'll bet they fit a standard description, "fast, smart, mobile,"" you hollered "BS!" but then failed to add any other specific criteria. Your participation seems more personal than anything designed to actually examine the performance of the football team. This is a trolling exercise, in which you don't seem to know or understand much, and you don't like statistics, and you can't identify what Stitt is trying to do or will look for, but then you act like you have it all figured out.

On the other hand, if Stitt is turning to blaming the team, which his twitters came close to doing, is he beginning to get frustrated with trying to apply a Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference strategy to Big Sky Conference play? Is it a question that raises itself if Stitt is saying "it can't be my strategy, it must be my damned QBs." Going from a very successful UND game which was clearly not his "base strategy" and back to that "base" at ISU was illuminating. What's he trying to do? I'm trying to figure it out, you are merely trolling it all.

Well, that's what the stats are for: let's compare the QB performances to different strategies employed this season, and then compare those, say, to his QB at CSM, Dvorak. Of our current QBs, Simis looks most like Dvorak. You say, look at Graetsch. I did. I saw big long throws to outside WRs, something Brady failed dismally at in Game 1, and which Makena performed almost flawlessly with UND. So, is Stitt looking for someone that looks like Makena?

And if these WRs are THAT good, and we saw their hugely maximized performance at UND, why has their performance been so heavily muted in 8 games? Why aren't we generating the "team effort" that has, in fact, produced outstanding results?

It can't be for lack of talent. The talent proved itself. But each time there is a good game, the next game tries to go back to the 4th Q strategy. And flop. I think its puzzling. You think its "because Stitt!" and then proceed to try and be clever by saying it will all be clarified by his recruits in the future. Something no coach ever says, right?

As poor as this season seems, if we had won over Cal Poly, we would now have the same season W/L record as Stitt had overall at CSM. It's that close to what he's done in the past.

With his own recruits.

 

[grizindabox]

Let me ask you a question then...what should Stitt be looking for in a QB recruit? You must know since you have crunched all the numbers...I will wait patiently...

Please, hold your breath too.

Of course, as usual, you have this backwards. I am trying to understand Stitt's strategy and how he is responding to the various challenges, and how does that 1) impact the QB success and 2) impact the game outcomes. That's an analytical process. As the games unfold with additional data, and some of the data is unflattering, you claim "it doesn't matter, Stitt will recruit new QB's that will deliver what he wants."

"OK," I asked. "How?"

From my perspective, if you don't know what he's actually trying to do now, how did you get so preternaturally wise as to know what he wants in the future? And, just "knowing what he wants" doesn't mean he can find it or get it, but you seem remarkably confident about that as well, as that's all a coach has to do, is "want a particular kind of athlete" and voila', there they are! When you are asked how a recruit would be distinguished from any of the current QB's, based on what they looked like their senior HS games, you can't answer. When I proposed, "you know, I'll bet they fit a standard description, "fast, smart, mobile,"" you hollered "BS!" but then failed to add any other specific criteria. Your participation seems more personal than anything designed to actually examine the performance of the football team. This is a trolling exercise, in which you don't seem to know or understand much, and you don't like statistics, and you can't identify what Stitt is trying to do or will look for, but then you act like you have it all figured out.

On the other hand, if Stitt is turning to blaming the team, which his twitters came close to doing, is he beginning to get frustrated with trying to apply a Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference strategy to Big Sky Conference play? Is it a question that raises itself if Stitt is saying "it can't be my strategy, it must be my damned QBs." Going from a very successful UND game which was clearly not his "base strategy" and back to that "base" at ISU was illuminating. What's he trying to do? I'm trying to figure it out, you are merely trolling it all.

Well, that's what the stats are for: let's compare the QB performances to different strategies employed this season, and then compare those, say, to his QB at CSM, Dvorak. Of our current QBs, Simis looks most like Dvorak. You say, look at Graetsch. I did. I saw big long throws to outside WRs, something Brady failed dismally at in Game 1, and which Makena performed almost flawlessly with UND. So, is Stitt looking for someone that looks like Makena?

And if these WRs are THAT good, and we saw their hugely maximized performance at UND, why has their performance been so heavily muted in 8 games? Why aren't we generating the "team effort" that has, in fact, produced outstanding results?

It can't be for lack of talent. The talent proved itself. But each time there is a good game, the next game tries to go back to the 4th Q strategy. And flop. I think its puzzling. You think its "because Stitt!" and then proceed to try and be clever by saying it will all be clarified by his recruits in the future. Something no coach ever says, right?

As poor as this season seems, if we had won over Cal Poly, we would now have the same season W/L record as Stitt had overall at CSM. It's that close to what he's done in the past.

With his own recruits.

Wow....all I can say is Wow.... :roll:

 

[Grizzoola]

Not everyone responds to a particular coaching style the same way but anyone who is going to be successful has to be able to adapt to the boss. It is true in sports and in the rest of life. ....

This may be true, but several decades ago, when I entered teaching at a small MT HS, the coach said something I thought quite profound. He said there are certain kids who perform best if you keep after them; there are other kids who will quit on you if you go after them too much.

So, maybe it's the other way around: Adapt your coaching style to the personality of the kid you're dealing with. I suppose this is more true of HS players than college players, who are (or should be) more mature. OTOH, it could be NFL coaches like Pete Carroll understand this better than most coaches. I think any coach has to be a helluva psychologist. It could be Stitt recognizes Simis is the kind of player you have to keep after.

 

[mtgriz]

Maybe Simis is Mike Eruzione to Stitt's Herb Brooks?

 

[TX-GRIZ]

Let me ask you a question then...what should Stitt be looking for in a QB recruit? You must know since you have crunched all the numbers...I will wait patiently...

Please, hold your breath too.

Of course, as usual, you have this backwards. I am trying to understand Stitt's strategy and how he is responding to the various challenges, and how does that 1) impact the QB success and 2) impact the game outcomes. That's an analytical process. As the games unfold with additional data, and some of the data is unflattering, you claim "it doesn't matter, Stitt will recruit new QB's that will deliver what he wants."

"OK," I asked. "How?"

From my perspective, if you don't know what he's actually trying to do now, how did you get so preternaturally wise as to know what he wants in the future? And, just "knowing what he wants" doesn't mean he can find it or get it, but you seem remarkably confident about that as well, as that's all a coach has to do, is "want a particular kind of athlete" and voila', there they are! When you are asked how a recruit would be distinguished from any of the current QB's, based on what they looked like their senior HS games, you can't answer. When I proposed, "you know, I'll bet they fit a standard description, "fast, smart, mobile,"" you hollered "BS!" but then failed to add any other specific criteria. Your participation seems more personal than anything designed to actually examine the performance of the football team. This is a trolling exercise, in which you don't seem to know or understand much, and you don't like statistics, and you can't identify what Stitt is trying to do or will look for, but then you act like you have it all figured out.

On the other hand, if Stitt is turning to blaming the team, which his twitters came close to doing, is he beginning to get frustrated with trying to apply a Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference strategy to Big Sky Conference play? Is it a question that raises itself if Stitt is saying "it can't be my strategy, it must be my damned QBs." Going from a very successful UND game which was clearly not his "base strategy" and back to that "base" at ISU was illuminating. What's he trying to do? I'm trying to figure it out, you are merely trolling it all.

Well, that's what the stats are for: let's compare the QB performances to different strategies employed this season, and then compare those, say, to his QB at CSM, Dvorak. Of our current QBs, Simis looks most like Dvorak. You say, look at Graetsch. I did. I saw big long throws to outside WRs, something Brady failed dismally at in Game 1, and which Makena performed almost flawlessly with UND. So, is Stitt looking for someone that looks like Makena?

And if these WRs are THAT good, and we saw their hugely maximized performance at UND, why has their performance been so heavily muted in 8 games? Why aren't we generating the "team effort" that has, in fact, produced outstanding results?

It can't be for lack of talent. The talent proved itself. But each time there is a good game, the next game tries to go back to the 4th Q strategy. And flop. I think its puzzling. You think its "because Stitt!" and then proceed to try and be clever by saying it will all be clarified by his recruits in the future. Something no coach ever says, right?

As poor as this season seems, if we had won over Cal Poly, we would now have the same season W/L record as Stitt had overall at CSM. It's that close to what he's done in the past.

With his own recruits.

Can we have the Cliff Notes version please? Good god.......

 

[UMGriz75]

Can we have the Cliff Notes version please? Good god.......

No.

 

[Glendivegriz]

Does this thread survive after Saturday's game?

 

[mcg]

Back to subject. I have no idea about coach Stitt's ego, I've never met him (I did see him at the airport once, he seemed to have no problem carrying someone else's bags, seemed like a non-ego thing to me).

I'd say he had been quite flexible in terms of game planning. For example, the bubble screen had disappeared while the QB run seems to have emerged. The game plans have changed a lot, I wonder if they may have changed too much. Perhaps the current game plan doesn't reflect the principles worked on in spring and fall practices, thus execution has suffered.

 

[Stanley]

Well done UMGriz 75. you outwitted, outlasted and out played one of the most pompous, sarcastic answer eluder on this board. Despite his allies attempts to sidetrack and confuse, you peeled the layers from Grizindabox like a banana, exposing his unexplained, mysterious bias, and propensity to bluster and name call. Thanks for the Herculean effort to explain and prevail.

 

[grizindabox]

Well done UMGriz 75. you outwitted, outlasted and out played one of the most pompous, sarcastic answer eluder on this board. Despite his allies attempts to sidetrack and confuse, you peeled the layers from Grizindabox like a banana, exposing his unexplained, mysterious bias, and propensity to bluster and name call. Thanks for the Herculean effort to explain and prevail.

Actually, you can only try to reason with stupidity for so long....so I decided to move on the more important things...

 

[tgreseth]

Well done UMGriz 75. you outwitted, outlasted and out played one of the most pompous, sarcastic answer eluder on this board. Despite his allies attempts to sidetrack and confuse, you peeled the layers from Grizindabox like a banana, exposing his unexplained, mysterious bias, and propensity to bluster and name call. Thanks for the Herculean effort to explain and prevail.

That's a lot of big words Steve...you're quite the multi-tasker!

 

[Stanley]

Well done UMGriz 75. you outwitted, outlasted and out played one of the most pompous, sarcastic answer eluder on this board. Despite his allies attempts to sidetrack and confuse, you peeled the layers from Grizindabox like a banana, exposing his unexplained, mysterious bias, and propensity to bluster and name call. Thanks for the Herculean effort to explain and prevail.

Actually, you can only try to reason with stupidity for so long....so I decided to move on the more important things...

To be fair, you tried your best with what you have to work with... many would have tapped much sooner.

 

[Stanley]

Well done UMGriz 75. you outwitted, outlasted and out played one of the most pompous, sarcastic answer eluder on this board. Despite his allies attempts to sidetrack and confuse, you peeled the layers from Grizindabox like a banana, exposing his unexplained, mysterious bias, and propensity to bluster and name call. Thanks for the Herculean effort to explain and prevail.

That's a lot of big words Steve...you're quite the multi-tasker!

Why thank you Curley, er... Mo,... er Larry.

 

[Grisly Fan]

I'll go on the record saying that I don't think Stanley is Dill. I have not seen the trademark hackneyed saying "front runner" (always used incorrectly) nor references to the length of male genitals (I won't hazard a guess as to why the fixation). Nor has he/she cried about the mods doing or not doing something. If it is Stevey then the zebra has changed his stripes.

 

[tgreseth]

I'll go on the record saying that I don't think Stanley is Dill. I have not seen the trademark hackneyed saying "front runner" (always used incorrectly) nor references to the length of male genitals (I won't hazard a guess as to why the fixation). Nor has he/she cried about the mods doing or not doing something. If it is Stevey then the zebra has changed his stripes.

I respectfully disagree...it seems that someone has shown Steve how to use a dictionary! He's trying really hard with this new alter ego for which I give him credit.

 

[Grisly Fan]

I'll go on the record saying that I don't think Stanley is Dill. I have not seen the trademark hackneyed saying "front runner" (always used incorrectly) nor references to the length of male genitals (I won't hazard a guess as to why the fixation). Nor has he/she cried about the mods doing or not doing something. If it is Stevey then the zebra has changed his stripes.

I respectfully disagree...it seems that someone has shown Steve how to use a dictionary! He's trying really hard with this new alter ego for which I give him credit.

Well OK but Stanly seems to possess some amount of intelligence, a trait that Dill simply lacks.

 

[tgreseth]

I'll go on the record saying that I don't think Stanley is Dill. I have not seen the trademark hackneyed saying "front runner" (always used incorrectly) nor references to the length of male genitals (I won't hazard a guess as to why the fixation). Nor has he/she cried about the mods doing or not doing something. If it is Stevey then the zebra has changed his stripes.

I respectfully disagree...it seems that someone has shown Steve how to use a dictionary! He's trying really hard with this new alter ego for which I give him credit.

Well OK but Stanly seems to possess some amount of intelligence, a trait that Dill simply lacks.

I agree that Steve is pretty dumb but I'm confident that Stanley and Steve are one and the same! I think he's getting some coaching...maybe from '75

 

[UMGriz75]

The game plans have changed a lot, I wonder if they may have changed too much. Perhaps the current game plan doesn't reflect the principles worked on in spring and fall practices, thus execution has suffered.

One of my earlier comments was about his "mad scientist" persona, one that I think he enjoys a bit. And so, on top of a problematic strategy, there are ongoing changes that on the one hand, you can say, yeah, OK, that change makes sense, and then at other times, why change what was working? Coach Stitt wouldn't be the first coach was was "too clever" at the game on some days. I can't help but wonder how that has affected play. Players are pretty tight-lipped this season, which is interesting all by itself.