Stitt's Ego/Inflexibility

[grizindabox]

But still limited by what his QB can execute....

I know, you actually believe that many, perhaps most, coaches are not limited by what their QB's can execute, and that Poor Stitt bears a singular burden.

NO, but Stitt is limited by QB's he did not recruit...if you recruit a QB that limits what you can run then you screwed up... :roll:

Of course, coaches know that they must recruit QB's that don't limit them.

And of course, they find them everywhere .... :lol:

You know, like your description of what you admit you know Stitt is actually looking for:

apparently finding QB's is like finding unicorns....who knew that Beau Baldwin was such a great unicorn hunter...seems that Stitt had the ability to recruit QB's that fit his system at CSM....are you suggesting that he can not find them and recruit them to Missoula?

 

[UMGriz75]

apparently finding QB's is like finding unicorns....who know that Beau Baldwin was such a great unicorn hunter...seems that Stitt had the ability to recruit QB's that fit his system at CSM....are you suggesting that he can not find them and recruit them to Missoula?

No, finding the QB's YOU claim exist -- but can't describe -- is like finding unicorns. You missed this observation about Stitts QB recruits and their current performance at CSM. Just for you, I'll post it again. Perhaps we should recruit them to Missoula?

You know, get them out of the fierce fires of the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference where all the Unicorns live and play football?

Ironically, the closest that any MT quarterback comes to the current CSM QB, Dvorak, an authentic Stitt recruit -- in passing percentage, third down conversions, and ability to throw long balls is ... well, guess.

Also ironically, CSM has had to recently play its 2nd and 3rd QBs -- all Stitt QB Unicorns -- with Dvorak's injury, and has lost all of those games, the last 3, by scores of 49-21, 31-17, 45-42, whereas UM has been able to win 2 of it's last 3 with it's 3rd string QB, a non-Stitt recruit.

Ironies abound, as do the rationalizations.

 

[grizindabox]

75, I am fairly sure that you have no answered a single question this entire thread...what up with that...

so answer this....Do you believe that Stitt can recruit a QB that fits his system to Missoula in the next 2 years....

 

[grizindabox]

I give up....75 has about as much common sense as snooki....

 

[tgreseth]

Are you two old hens still at it? Geezus Christ, go to bed!

 

[UMGriz75]

75, I am fairly sure that you have no answered a single question this entire thread...what up with that...

so answer this....Do you believe that Stitt can recruit a QB that fits his system to Missoula in the next 2 years....

Well, that's your answer to my question to you, what is he looking for? And you couldn't answer it.

And no, having made the claim about "Stitt recruiting his own talent," a claim you could not even rationalize, you want me to answer it for you?

You created a problem here for yourself. I am not the one claiming to know what Stitt is doing, is going to do, and how he can change everything with his "recruits" by some mysterious process known only to you as "Unicorn hunting." You did. And then could not respond coherently to the single word question "How?"

His last starting QB at CSM looks most like Makena Simis in almost all measurable categories, except the speed of the process, which compares in this case to the quality of the results.

Perhaps you Unicorn hunters don't know what Unicorns look like.

 

[grizindabox]

75, I am fairly sure that you have no answered a single question this entire thread...what up with that...

so answer this....Do you believe that Stitt can recruit a QB that fits his system to Missoula in the next 2 years....

Well, that's your answer to my question to you, what is he looking for? And you couldn't answer it.

And no, having made the claim about "Stitt recruiting his own talent," a claim you could not even rationalize, you want me to answer it for you?

You created a problem here for yourself. I am not the one claiming to know what Stitt is doing, is going to do, and how he can change everything with his "recruits" by some mysterious process known only to you as "Unicorn hunting." You did. And then could not respond coherently to the single word question "How?"

His last starting QB at CSM looks most like Makena Simis in almost all measurable categories, except the speed of the process, which compares in this case to the quality of the results.

Perhaps you Unicorn hunters don't know what Unicorns look like.

You know what, since Stitt is the guy that knows what he specifically wants in a QB recruit...maybe you should address the question to him....seems his only recruit to UM so far is Gresch Jensen...maybe taking a look at some video of him will clue you in....OUT

 

[UMGriz75]

You know what, since Stitt is the guy that knows what he specifically wants in a QB recruit...maybe you should address the question to him....seems his only recruit to UM so far is Gresch Jensen...maybe taking a look at some video of him will clue you in....OUT

"You know what," you were the one making big claims, and couldn't back them up. I'm looking at the stats that attempt to dissect what is actually happening. Stitt doesn't open up, and so that door is pretty much closed, except what I have already pointed to in the public record: the "base strategy" and the "4th Q strategy." Using stats shows the real world results of the strategy.

I've already read the press release about what it was supposed to do. Stitt wrote it.

You have demonstrated you have no idea what it said.

 

[UMGriz75]

You know what, since Stitt is the guy that knows what he specifically wants in a QB recruit...maybe you should address the question to him....seems his only recruit to UM so far is Gresch Jensen...maybe taking a look at some video of him will clue you in....OUT

Partially looked at Gresch Jensen's Hudl tape. I'll be darned, first four throws, long ball to outside wide receivers. Could have been Makena Simis in the UND game to Jamal and Ellis. Identical. I'm not saying that Makena is the end all to anything, but I am looking at this tape and saying "that could be Makena, it sure is hell is not Brady" and wondering if you actually watched it or not and, wondering, if that is what Stitt wants, he's already got it.

 

[grizindabox]

You know what, since Stitt is the guy that knows what he specifically wants in a QB recruit...maybe you should address the question to him....seems his only recruit to UM so far is Gresch Jensen...maybe taking a look at some video of him will clue you in....OUT

"You know what," you were the one making big claims, and couldn't back them up. I'm looking at the stats that attempt to dissect what is actually happening. Stitt doesn't open up, and so that door is pretty much closed, except what I have already pointed to in the public record: the "base strategy" and the "4th Q strategy." Using stats shows the real world results of the strategy.

I've already read the press release about what it was supposed to do. Stitt wrote it.

You have demonstrated you have no idea what it said.

Let me ask you a question then...what should Stitt be looking for in a QB recruit? You must know since you have crunched all the numbers...I will wait patiently...

 

[grizindabox]

You know what, since Stitt is the guy that knows what he specifically wants in a QB recruit...maybe you should address the question to him....seems his only recruit to UM so far is Gresch Jensen...maybe taking a look at some video of him will clue you in....OUT

Partially looked at Gresch Jensen's Hudl tape. I'll be darned, first four throws, long ball to outside wide receivers. Could have been Makena Simis in the UND game to Jamal and Ellis. Identical. I'm not saying that Makena is the end all to anything, but I am looking at this tape and saying "that could be Makena, it sure is hell is not Brady" and wondering if you actually watched it or not and, wondering, if that is what Stitt wants, he's already got it.

Is this how you get women to have sex with you....you continually beat them down with useless gibberish until they finally just give in.....you are seriously exhausting....of course the thing you failed to notice is the QB's field vision, which to this point, Simis has demonstrated none...he looks as his primary receiver, if he is unavailable he takes off running...easy to defend...press the outside receivers with safety help over the top...you only have to cover for a handful of seconds before Simis panics....the reason he had success against UND is because of how they defensed the outside receivers...PSU and ISU made the adjustments and Simis demonstrated his inability to overcome...you can keep basing your entire argument on the 1 good game he had, but the 2 poor games are the more telling...

 

[doc3kgt]

You know what, since Stitt is the guy that knows what he specifically wants in a QB recruit...maybe you should address the question to him....seems his only recruit to UM so far is Gresch Jensen...maybe taking a look at some video of him will clue you in....OUT

Partially looked at Gresch Jensen's Hudl tape. I'll be darned, first four throws, long ball to outside wide receivers. Could have been Makena Simis in the UND game to Jamal and Ellis. Identical. I'm not saying that Makena is the end all to anything, but I am looking at this tape and saying "that could be Makena, it sure is hell is not Brady" and wondering if you actually watched it or not and, wondering, if that is what Stitt wants, he's already got it.

Is this how you get women to have sex with you....you continually beat them down with useless gibberish until they finally just give in.....you are seriously exhausting....of course the thing you failed to notice is the QB's field vision, which to this point, Simis has demonstrated none...he looks as his primary receiver, if he is unavailable he takes off running...easy to defend...press the outside receivers with safety help over the top...you only have to cover for a handful of seconds before Simis panics....the reason he had success against UND is because of how they defensed the outside receivers...PSU and ISU made the adjustments and Simis demonstrated his inability to overcome...you can keep basing your entire argument on the 1 good game he had, but the 2 poor games are the more telling...

UMGriz75 is quickly taking over the title of "The biggest pompous douche of Egriz" from Playarape. His painfully long posts are bloated with hyperbole and misinformation, and his vocabulary is annoyingly cumbersome. And lets be real, UMgriz doesn't have sex with women. Never thought I would say this, but can we have more playarape and less umjizz75?

 

[XxSpectrexX]

Don't be stupid for all your days... did Stitt recruit them? They are all quality players, however they may not fit the new schemes... lead a horse to water... still sniffs the mare's ass.

This is the usual passing gas. "What kind of QB fits the new "schemes?" "Uh, the one who gets the new schemes."

That's really your answer isn't it. In other words, you don't know. Thanks for playing.

Such an angry person... obviously you can't, or won't comprehend what we're saying so feel free to go back to your corner and play by yourself. By, not with...

 

[bgbigdog]

Yeah, not the greatest but ISU does have a good pass defense so not terribly surprising their numbers weren't huge...my question is why do you think they weren't better? Stitts offense, Simis play, or a combination of the two?

Well, I modified my comment above, with the likely effect to just cause more controversy.

If you are going to exploit the real talents of Jones and Henderson, you have to use the QB who can do that. Only one of our QB's can. It worked very well in a 69 play game, 23 seconds per play, getting everybody in place and ready to go without trying to aim at the "4th Q Strategy," against a team substantially better defensively than ISU.

When Stitt returned to his "4th Q Strategy," designed specifically to defeat very good defenses such as ISU did not have, Makena did not perform well, Henderson and Jones practically disappeared, talent was not utilized, and we lost the actual game play part, winning instead by Force Majeure.

Jones and Henderson had decent numbers the first two weeks and I think Naccarato put up a lot of yards in one of the games too, that was running the fast-paced offense and Brady had about 800 yards in 2 games...it seemed to be working fine with him.

Maybe Simis functions better in a slower-paced setting? That's a possibility.

My only quibble with Stitt is that Hendu/Jones are always in the same spots. Kupp is lined up all over, creating mismatches from time to time that can be exploited. Pre-snap, the QB decides what side of the field to go to based on what the D shows. This is what everyone notes as the "starring down" receivers , the 2-3 on the side he's chosen to go to. This makes it predictable, and to my eye why it's so tough for the receivers to get a bit of separation.

 

[Grisly Fan]

Obviously the debate rages (between two people mostly) but it seems so clear to me. Is Stitt inflexible and/or egotistical? He made his vision clear to the hirers and he intends to implement it. Clearly he believes the foundation must be in place before he starts working on the first story. He thought he had a QB to build with but, well, you know the rest of the story. His offense looks overly simplistic because it is right now. To me it is clear that he is not willing to deviate too much just to win games. He is trying to build for the long term. Reminds me of a Monty Python quote:

“Listen, lad. I built this kingdom up from nothing. When I started here, all there was was swamp. Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in these islands.”

By the way, I am not sure where we are in the third try... burning down, falling over, or sinking but I can't wait for the 4th attempt.

 

[get'em_griz]

I'm just going to say that the biggest difference between CSM's current quarterback (Justin Dvorak) and Makena Simis is the amount of time both guys had to learn this system.

Justin Dvorak red shirted in 2012, which gave him a full season to learn Stitt's system. He then appeared in nine games with three starts in 2013. In 2014, he started all 12 games. Yeah, he's going to be as good as he is now because he's had a lot of time to learn this system. Makena Simis hasn't had that luxury, and neither has any of our other quarterbacks. We are heading to our 10th game of the 1st season with three quarterbacks who have played due to injuries. Like Stitt said, Gustafson is the one who understands the system the most which is why he is Stitt's guy for now. Just wait, you'll start seeing our other QBs like Willy Pflug or Jensen take over and run this offense efficiently like Justin Dvorak simply because they'll have had the luxury of sitting back and studying the playbook.

 

[grzz]

The only thing that can be said with certainty after this thread is that 75 has a huge ego and is inflexible.

 

[grzz]

I'm just going to say that the biggest difference between CSM's current quarterback (Justin Dvorak) and Makena Simis is the amount of time both guys had to learn this system.

Justin Dvorak red shirted in 2012, which gave him a full season to learn Stitt's system. He then appeared in nine games with three starts in 2013. In 2014, he started all 12 games. Yeah, he's going to be as good as he is now because he's had a lot of time to learn this system. Makena Simis hasn't had that luxury, and neither has any of our other quarterbacks. We are heading to our 10th game of the 1st season with three quarterbacks who have played due to injuries. Like Stitt said, Gustafson is the one who understands the system the most which is why he is Stitt's guy for now. Just wait, you'll start seeing our other QBs like Willy Pflug or Jensen take over and run this offense efficiently like Justin Dvorak simply because they'll have had the luxury of sitting back and studying the playbook.

Bingo. Implementing a system takes time. Who I knows what Brady would look like if he had the whole season under his belt. Same for Simis.

And to think it is impossible that teams have adjusted to a QB who has shown to have happy feet and not go through his progressions is ridiculous. We are what we are, everyone has blame, but to say that Stitt is the reason for Simis poor play last two games is bull shit. And he isn't yelling at him, he is coaching him hard and showing frustration because it appears what they practice during the week in regards to progressions and stepping up in the pocket seems to be disappearing come game time.

 

[Grisly Fan]

Not everyone responds to a particular coaching style the same way but anyone who is going to be successful has to be able to adapt to the boss. It is true in sports and in the rest of life. Stitt has been doing what he is doing for a lot longer than any of the players he is coaching and so you have to give him the benefit of the doubt that his style can be effective. Simis will figure it out with time -- or he won't and someone else will take the starting job in the future for this or any number of other reasons.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

The only thing that can be said with certainty after this thread is that 75 has a huge ego and is inflexible.

best post in this thread. I feel ashamed.