Stitt's Ego/Inflexibility

[grizindabox]

Here's how ego maniacal ... Stitt is ....

Well, he is saying the team let him down. He isn't saying he let the team down, or that the burden is in any way shared. It IS interesting how he said that.

Seems to me he is saying that due to QB injuries they have had to adapt and change what they are doing...not what he wants to do...

That differs from every other QB injury, how?

Well, Stitt says its different because he can't implement the strategy with the rest of his team. That this isn't a "step into the position" team traditional in football, this is something else that offers a team handicap strategically if the QB goes out.

Are you really that thick....Stitt came into a program and is installing a new offense with existing QB's....not all of the QB's he has inherited are either able to grasp or execute the full offense for whatever individual reason...this is like asking why the existing 3rd string QB, that ran an option offense under the previous coach, can't run the base offense of the new coach's west coast passing offense....

 

[grizindabox]

Stitt wants a smart, mobile QB. We've had them, we've got them, and we will have them. And the ones he can recruit in the future will likely look a lot like the ones in the past because 1) you always look for smart, mobile talent in QB, 2) you are always dealing with what kids did in High School (probably not Stitt strategy), 3) you have to guess they can "adapt," 4) everybody else wants the same perfect kid, 5) you go with what you get, not what you want, you can only hope they are close.

Also to broach this gem of a post one last time....how in the world does EWU recruit QB's....seems that they are able to do OK with finding QB's that match what they want on a fairly steady basis...you can't tell me they don't get the kind of kid they want...

 

[GoldenEagle]

Stitt wants a smart, mobile QB. We've had them, we've got them, and we will have them. And the ones he can recruit in the future will likely look a lot like the ones in the past because 1) you always look for smart, mobile talent in QB, 2) you are always dealing with what kids did in High School (probably not Stitt strategy), 3) you have to guess they can "adapt," 4) everybody else wants the same perfect kid, 5) you go with what you get, not what you want, you can only hope they are close.

Also to broach this gem of a post one last time....how in the world does EWU recruit QB's....seems that they are able to do OK with finding QB's that match what they want on a fairly steady basis...you can't tell me they don't get the kind of kid they want...

Well that's easy to explain. EWU is an elite program. :thumb:

 

[grzz]

A good example of a new coach using existing QBs and struggling with offensive implementation and then taking off with his own recruit is Pflugrad and Selle/Roper and then Johnson the next year.

To say an offensive system isn't good because in games 2 and 3 it struggled is insane.

 

[UMGriz75]

Side-by-side:

In their 2013 season, CSM averaged 36 pts/game, 61% pass completion rate, 319 yds passing, 175 yds rushing, 45% third down conversion rate, 11 yds per completed pass, average rush of 4.3 yds, 90 plays per game. TPP (seconds) 21:55. 19 fumbles (1.7/game).

MT/NDSU
35 points scored. 30 pass completions out of 55 attempts, a 55% success rate. Passing yardage at 434 yards. 33% third down conversion rate. Averaged 14.4 yards per successful pass. 1 interception. Rushing yards, 110. Average rush, 3.1. 92 plays. 16:08, TPP.

MT/UND
42 points scored. 16 pass completions out of 23 attempts, a 70% completion rate; averaging 20 yards per successful pass. 323 yds passing. 46% third down conversion rate. 160 yds rushing, 3.6yd/rush. 69 plays. 22:53, TPP. 0 fumbles.

 

[grizindabox]

What I will say is that Stitt knows what he is looking for in a QB so that he fits his system. It is quite apparent that he currently does not have that at UM....I think from a cerebral aspect, Brady is closest but his lack of mobility is not ideal.

OK, he's looking for a smart, mobile QB.

That distinguishes him from every other coach, including every higher division, .... how?

These are Public relations requirements, sports jargon, "we are going to have a fast mobile offensive line." I swear, I hear these things from coaches and wonder why we've never heard a coach brag that he's going to have "a slow, dull offensive line." Sports are rife with "hackneyed phrases." They are meaningless. He wants a smart, mobile QB. We've had them, we've got them, and we will have them. And the ones he can recruit in the future will likely look a lot like the ones in the past because 1) you always look for smart, mobile talent in QB, 2) you are always dealing with what kids did in High School (probably not Stitt strategy), 3) you have to guess they can "adapt," 4) everybody else wants the same perfect kid, 5) you go with what you get, not what you want, you can only hope they are close.

..
.you also want to make it sound like every coach looks for the same things in a QB...but they don't...and that part I bolded is pure BS...

Of course its BS, coaches frequently look for QB's that are dull and slow. :twisted: You missed my point, there are certain key things you look for in the position, and until you see a specific kid, you can't say much more than that. You can hope and dream, but each year is limited by time, numbers and opportunities. And you're just not the only coach out there. I know that's news to you.

Indeed, I asked you specifically, got jargon in return, identified some key elements in the face of your inability to do so, and naturally to you, that's "BS" although you could not rise to the challenge yourself because, in fact, you hadn't "thought about it for more than a minute."

Stitt's got a good record at Mines, no doubt, 108-62 (.635) including their 83-44 record in the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference.

In their 2013 season, CSM averaged 36 pts/game, 319 yds passing, 175 yds rushing, 45% third down conversion rate, 11 yds per completed pass, average rush of 4.3 yds, 90 plays per game.

Only one UM game this season looks like that one.

And why do you think that is....

Anyone can help him.....give him hints even...

 

[fanofzoo]

Stitt wants a smart, mobile QB. We've had them, we've got them, and we will have them. And the ones he can recruit in the future will likely look a lot like the ones in the past because 1) you always look for smart, mobile talent in QB, 2) you are always dealing with what kids did in High School (probably not Stitt strategy), 3) you have to guess they can "adapt," 4) everybody else wants the same perfect kid, 5) you go with what you get, not what you want, you can only hope they are close.

Also to broach this gem of a post one last time....how in the world does EWU recruit QB's....seems that they are able to do OK with finding QB's that match what they want on a fairly steady basis...you can't tell me they don't get the kind of kid they want...

Well that's easy to explain. EWU is an elite program. :thumb:

:lol:

 

[UMGriz75]

And why do you think that is....

Anyone can help him.....give him hints even...

I'm sure you've given it at least "a minute of thought" and that your detailed answer is as good as your list of things Stitt would be looking for in a QB. I.e., nothing, because you don't seem to be able to back up anything you say.

Remember your response?

 

[grizindabox]

And why do you think that is....

Anyone can help him.....give him hints even...

I'm sure you've given it at least "a minute of thought" and that your detailed answer is as good as your list of things Stitt would be looking for in a QB. I.e., nothing, because you don't seem to be able to back up anything you say.

Remember your response?

You do realize that we can do nothing but assume what Stitt is looking for in a QB...because what we think he should be looking for in a QB doesn't mean shit....

And the answer to your question....is QB play.....

 

[UMGriz75]

You do realize that we can do nothing but assume what Stitt is looking for in a QB...because what we think he should be looking for in a QB doesn't mean shit....

That was precisely my point when you pretended to know what Stitt was looking for in his "own" recruits, and that "somehow" they would be different than the QB's we have had and have.

The fact is, you don't have the faintest idea what he would be looking for, where, or how and so you can't even reach your first necessary assumption "that they would be different" beyond the obvious, that they ought to be fast, smart and they ought to be mobile.

No coach ever thought of that before Bob Stitt, right?.

 

[UMGriz75]

And the answer to your question....is QB play.....

And Makena was that QB. :lol:

 

[grizindabox]

And the answer to your question....is QB play.....

And Makena was that QB. :lol:

Seriously, Makena had 1 good game...but that doesn't make him the answer...there is a reason he was 3rd string and Stitt has had to adapt his offense and he has gotten considerably worse over the last 2 games...you don't adapt your offense if he is the guy....the Griz have been hampered all season by poor QB play...

 

[UMGriz75]

Are you really that thick....Stitt came into a program and is installing a new offense with existing QB's....not all of the QB's he has inherited are either able to grasp or execute the full offense for whatever individual reason...this is like asking why the existing 3rd string QB, that ran an option offense under the previous coach, can't run the base offense of the new coach's west coast passing offense....

Not as thick as you, that's for sure. You are aware that all QBs recruited have likely played football before? You do know that, don't you? They're not blank slates. Although it is interesting that once again, you are pretending to know what Stitt is doing, how he is doing it, and how it impacts the existing QBs, and, once again if I asked you specifically why they can't grasp or execute it, or what it is they can't grasp, we would once again get your standard analysis:

 

[UMGriz75]

Are you really that thick....Stitt came into a program and is installing a new offense with existing QB's....not all of the QB's he has inherited are either able to grasp or execute the full offense for whatever individual reason...this is like asking why the existing 3rd string QB, that ran an option offense under the previous coach, can't run the base offense of the new coach's west coast passing offense....

Not as thick as you, that's for sure. You are aware that all QBs recruited have likely played football before? You do know that, don't you? They're not blank slates. Although it is interesting that once again, you are pretending to know what Stitt is doing, how he is doing it, and how it impacts the existing QBs, and, once again if I asked you specifically why they can't grasp or execute it, or what it is they can't grasp, we would once again get your standard analysis:
Just as with your claim that Stitt will be recruiting "his own QBs," you couldn't identify a single metric as to how they would be different from any QB a typical coach might try to recruit. When I finally, out of sympathy at your vacant premises, offered, "gee, think he might be looking for fast, smart and mobile?" Then you came back to life shouting "BS." Which left another awkward void of intellectual vacancy as to what you think Stitt would be looking for, implying that you think he wants QBs that are not smart, fast, or mobile. In other words, you just don't know. You do this to yourself.

You have many opinions, and not a single one of them has any substance.

 

[grizindabox]

You do realize that we can do nothing but assume what Stitt is looking for in a QB...because what we think he should be looking for in a QB doesn't mean shit....

That was precisely my point when you pretended to know what Stitt was looking for in his "own" recruits, and that "somehow" they would be different than the QB's we have had and have.

The fact is, you don't have the faintest idea what he would be looking for, where, or how and so you can't even reach your first necessary assumption "that they would be different" beyond the obvious, that they ought to be fast, smart and they ought to be mobile.

No coach ever thought of that before Bob Stitt, right?.

I never said I specifically knew what Stitt liked in a QB, but it is very apparent that what Stitt likes in a QB is not currently on the roster....maybe you should take a look at some Gresch Jensen video....

Honestly, I have never seen such a pompous ass.....

 

[grizindabox]

Are you really that thick....Stitt came into a program and is installing a new offense with existing QB's....not all of the QB's he has inherited are either able to grasp or execute the full offense for whatever individual reason...this is like asking why the existing 3rd string QB, that ran an option offense under the previous coach, can't run the base offense of the new coach's west coast passing offense....

Not as thick as you, that's for sure. You are aware that all QBs recruited have likely played football before? You do know that, don't you? They're not blank slates. Although it is interesting that once again, you are pretending to know what Stitt is doing, how he is doing it, and how it impacts the existing QBs, and, once again if I asked you specifically why they can't grasp or execute it, or what it is they can't grasp, we would once again get your standard analysis:
Just as with your claim that Stitt will be recruiting "his own QBs," you couldn't identify a single metric as to how they would be different from any QB a typical coach might try to recruit. You have many opinions, and not a single one of them has any substance.

That doesn't mean they fit what Stitt wants....no they aren't all blank slates, but they aren't all the same either...I will tell you what Stitt is doing....coaching a floundering offense because he does not have a QB that has shown the ability to execute it....you want to know why Simis can't grasp the offense...he has absolutely zero ability to look beyond his primary receiver....you want to make it sound like every QB recruit is the same blank slate...or a team just gets whatever it gets...and that is completely false....you are trying to make a blanket statement and it doesn't work...

 

[UMGriz75]

Honestly, I have never seen such a pompous ass.....

Kettle, meet pot. :mrgreen:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Look, I found 75's porn stash

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

75 wouldn't know the difference between a counter play and a fucking hole in the ground and now he thinks his fantasy spreadsheets will help him determine that Stitt can not recruit any QB's better than what he already has because they are all the same blank slate and you just settle for whatever you get. Sure glad that EWU keeps settling for shit every year, I would hate to see them if they actually got the type of QB that they like to use in their system.

 

[UMGriz75]

That doesn't mean they fit what Stitt wants....no they aren't all blank slates, but they aren't all the same either...I will tell you what Stitt is doing....coaching a floundering offense because he does not have a QB that has shown the ability to execute it....you want to know why Simis can't grasp the offense...he has absolutely zero ability to look beyond his primary receiver....you want to make it sound like every QB recruit is the same blank slate...or a team just gets whatever it gets...and that is completely false....you are trying to make a blanket statement and it doesn't work...

You're the one making successive claims about "Stitt this" and "Stitt that" and "what works" and "what doesn't work" and "what Stitt is trying to do," and "why Stitt can't find anyone to QB the way "he" wants," but then each time you are queried, you don't in fact know "what Stitt wants," you don't know what he's "looking for," you have no idea how his recruits might be distinctive because you don't in fact know what he's looking for or, for that matter, how he might find it coming out of a high school program that won't be coaching Stitt's strategy any time soon, with kids already imprinted.