Stitt's Ego/Inflexibility

[HelenaHandBasket]

The predicted 65/35 pass:run ratio going to a 50/50 ratio as mentioned earlier is significant. Stitt was supposed to be the second coming of Read, but lately, his predicted style is not panning out. Others have noted the repetitive runs by Ngyuen up the gut, when obviously those plays weren't working, except for one.

I think Simis, Hendu, and Jones should be turned loose, so they can get into the rhythm that a passing unit needs. Of course, it would be great if Simis had more pass protection. But I agree with those who complain about sticking to Ngyuen's up the gut runs, when after 3 & outs and other times when they clearly didn't work. If Stitt were inflexible, I'd say it's in this respect.

Letting Simis loose would only lead to more interceptions when he forces it to his primary read and to more QB scrambles when his primary target is not available since he has no ability to proceed to secondary options.

 

[doc3kgt]

I know that you guys won this Saturday, but are any of you concerned that it took a last second miscue by hapless ISU to win that game? Before you think I'm talking shit let me correct you, this is a serious question. And before you retort, yes I know, the Cats suck this year.

 

[grizindabox]

I know that you guys won this Saturday, but are any of you concerned that it took a last second miscue by hapless ISU to win that game? Before you think I'm talking shit let me correct you, this is a serious question. And before you retort, yes I know, the Cats suck this year.

Actually I think a majority have some concern...but also a majority don't really want to admit the Griz are an average BSC team with average overall talent...

 

[doc3kgt]

I know that you guys won this Saturday, but are any of you concerned that it took a last second miscue by hapless ISU to win that game? Before you think I'm talking shit let me correct you, this is a serious question. And before you retort, yes I know, the Cats suck this year.

Actually I think a majority have some concern...but also a majority don't really want to admit the Griz are an average BSC team with average overall talent...

So to relate this to the thread topic, is this a Stitt thing or a lack of talent / execution by the team?

 

[Glendivegriz]

I know that you guys won this Saturday, but are any of you concerned that it took a last second miscue by hapless ISU to win that game? Before you think I'm talking shit let me correct you, this is a serious question. And before you retort, yes I know, the Cats suck this year.

Kind of the point of the thread I believe.

 

[JonSnow]

I know that you guys won this Saturday, but are any of you concerned that it took a last second miscue by hapless ISU to win that game? Before you think I'm talking shit let me correct you, this is a serious question. And before you retort, yes I know, the Cats suck this year.

I'm happy we didn't lose because losing would be worse than how I feel now but no I'm not happy.

 

[grizindabox]

I know that you guys won this Saturday, but are any of you concerned that it took a last second miscue by hapless ISU to win that game? Before you think I'm talking shit let me correct you, this is a serious question. And before you retort, yes I know, the Cats suck this year.

Actually I think a majority have some concern...but also a majority don't really want to admit the Griz are an average BSC team with average overall talent...

So to relate this to the thread topic, is this a Stitt thing or a lack of talent / execution by the team?

I think it is growing pains with a new coach/system and a lack of overall talent and poor execution

 

[George Ferguson]

I quit being "concerned" with the Griz offense five weeks ago. It is what it is. And, I'm never "concerned" with the opponent. I'd rather win on the road the way the Griz did Saturday than lose by 11 at home. Only and idiot wouldn't actually WANT their favorite to win. Besides, the Griz already lost games to hapless Cal Poly, hapless Liberty and hapless Weber, so why would any of us be surprised that it was a monumental struggle to beat ISU?

 

[UMGriz75]

I think it is growing pains with a new coach/system and a lack of overall talent and poor execution

Well, that's the chicken and egg argument.

At some point, is the coach responsible or is he never responsible?

 

[Grisly Fan]

Aside from the occasional over-the-top bravado, nobody thinks the Griz can win the NC. I think most people are resigned to the team doing the best that can be done and look to next year.

 

[grizindabox]

I think it is growing pains with a new coach/system and a lack of overall talent and poor execution

Well, that's the chicken and egg argument.

At some point, is the coach responsible or is he never responsible?

I guess 75 believes it is all on Stitt and the players shoulder none of the responsibility....

 

[tnt]

I think it is growing pains with a new coach/system and a lack of overall talent and poor execution

Well, that's the chicken and egg argument.

At some point, is the coach responsible or is he never responsible?

He certainly isn't responsible this year. You can't often polish a turd. I would say there will be more room to complain next year. and the following year he had best produce. Every year he DOESN'T run his OFFENSE makes the next year a whole new offense. That you can't do. I don't think he is stubborn OR bound up in ego. He is however very patient.... Fans aren't.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I think it is growing pains with a new coach/system and a lack of overall talent and poor execution

Well, that's the chicken and egg argument.

At some point, is the coach responsible or is he never responsible?

Depends. At some point is Obama responsible or is he never responsible? :lol:

 

[George Ferguson]

grizindabox, sometimes, it's just better not to argue, but it's clearly obvious how the tone on Stitt changed pretty quick. People, I'm sure 75, included, were flat out in love after the NDSU game. But, drop a few and you know how it goes. The major resentment towards Stitt comes from a few local kids that aren't seeing the field. Not saying that's 75's casein particular, but it's pretty obvious that two local players who aren't getting to play have really caused a stir, and that tone comes out here on Egriz, even though no one will admit that's why they don't like Stitt.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I quit being "concerned" with the Griz offense five weeks ago. It is what it is. And, I'm never "concerned" with the opponent. I'd rather win on the road the way the Griz did Saturday than lose by 11 at home. Only and idiot wouldn't actually WANT their favorite to win. Besides, the Griz already lost games to hapless Cal Poly, hapless Liberty and hapless Weber, so why would any of us be surprised that it was a monumental struggle to beat ISU?

you mean hapless Weber who's only bad loss is to SUU?

 

[George Ferguson]

Sorry AZ, but the that logic won't fly with me. If the Griz absolutely suck at 5-4 and 4-2 in the Big Sky, then there is no way Weber doesn't suck too.

 

[Glendivegriz]

I think it is growing pains with a new coach/system and a lack of overall talent and poor execution

Well, that's the chicken and egg argument.

At some point, is the coach responsible or is he never responsible?

Depends. At some point is Obama responsible or is he never responsible? :lol:

I suspected Obamas' hand in this mess of a season. So essentially, we peaked game one and have been downhill since then because of the players. The problem is with that theory, if NDSU was the toughest and most talented team we face all season, and we win because of superior offensive genius, should we really expect against lesser opponents to struggle this much? Or could the NDSU game be a product of last season and now the coach has truly put his fingerprint on this team? We really will not know then for sure until the majority of the Delaney recruits are no longer on the field.

 

[AZGrizFan]

The PSU game is an exemplar. UM has an outstanding passing QB, but is that really the game plan in a downpour?

And yet, nothing was lined up or attempted the way it was the previous week either. So, the game didn't get set up to UM's strengths, and played to a specific weakness on that given day. I've gotten through a second viewing of that game, and I really have no idea what the strategy was, except that Makena was making a lot of passing attempts that shouldn't have been on the calendar that day, and then getting chewed for doing it. He did make a rushing TD! So, there it was. He was the leading rusher that day.

To be said, there was more running than passing, 47 vs 36 plays, 160 yds vs. 134 yds. The running game was an anemic 3.2 yards per attempt, With 339 yds, PSU "ran" all over us because they had a game that worked in the rain -- works pretty well regardless of the weather-- whereas we didn't. Ellis Henderson never touched the ball.

Notably, PSU's QB was only 4 for 12 passing, but two of those were TDs, and one was for 40 yards.

Passes: -, 3, INT, -, 8, INT, 1, -, INT, 2, 7, 6, 15, 9, -, 13, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, - (dropped), - (dropped), 4, 3, -, 24, -, -, -, -, 30, 6, 5

Three INT's in the first 9 passes. An 11 pass stretch where he completed ONE.

Conversely, the running plays (including QB scrambles):

3, 3, 2, 24, 1, -2, 13, 1, 1, -3, 13, 10, 3, -3, 2, 3, 20, 2, 5, 4, 5, 9, 0, 10, 4, -6, 11, 1, 1, 4, -7, 0, 4, 4, 3, 3, 3, 9, -7, -5, 18, -2, 1, 0, 1, 4, -6

That's 18 rushes at 4 yards or over. The killer is the 9 rushes for NEGATIVE yards (of course that includes the 5 sacks)

 

[AZGrizFan]

Sorry AZ, but the that logic won't fly with me. If the Griz absolutely suck at 5-4 and 4-2 in the Big Sky, then there is no way Weber doesn't suck too.

I, for one, don't think the Griz suck. So you'll have to accept that logic from me. :lol:

 

[AZGrizFan]

grizindabox, sometimes, it's just better not to argue, but it's clearly obvious how the tone on Stitt changed pretty quick. People, I'm sure 75, included, were flat out in love after the NDSU game. But, drop a few and you know how it goes. The major resentment towards Stitt comes from a few local kids that aren't seeing the field. Not saying that's 75's casein particular, but it's pretty obvious that two local players who aren't getting to play have really caused a stir, and that tone comes out here on Egriz, even though no one will admit that's why they don't like Stitt.

I know Jannsen is one....who's the other?