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Stitt's awesome offense

grizatwork said:
SoldierGriz said:
grizatwork said:
Oline Coach said:
You won't get it with Stitt. His teams have won ONE playoff game in 15 years.....same as Mick this year.

Apples and Oranges. What has Central Washington done since Beau Baldwin left?

And, what has Mines done WITH Stitt?

Where were they before he got there. His record there is better than Don Read's were at his multiple stops. He has made them competitive where they were not.

Good point. If Stitt is our guy, I will rally behind him. Just several unanswered questions for me. I don't buy the rubbish that he hasn't moved up because he didn't want to...that is not how the vast majority of college football coaches are wired. But, maybe he has been content in Golden, and Montana provides him the alternative he's been waiting for. But, really...Montana HC over USC OC? If he is hired, obviously next big step is a very, very good DC to ensure no slip on that side of the ball.
 
SoldierGriz said:
grizatwork said:
SoldierGriz said:
grizatwork said:
Apples and Oranges. What has Central Washington done since Beau Baldwin left?

And, what has Mines done WITH Stitt?

Where were they before he got there. His record there is better than Don Read's were at his multiple stops. He has made them competitive where they were not.

Good point. If Stitt is our guy, I will rally behind him. Just several unanswered questions for me. I don't buy the rubbish that he hasn't moved up because he didn't want to...that is not how the vast majority of college football coaches are wired. But, maybe he has been content in Golden, and Montana provides him the alternative he's been waiting for. But, really...Montana HC over USC OC? If he is hired, obviously next big step is a very, very good DC to ensure no slip on that side of the ball.

Maybe he likes Coors? I don't know. I just know that the people that I have talked to that know football think he would be a coup for us. He is able to adapt his offense to his personnel better than anyone. No more complaints of square peg in a round hole. Personally, I am not opposed to some fresh air in the program.
 
grizcountry420 said:
You guys are ALL forgetting about what he has to work with. The requirements to get into that school are so high that EWU wouldn't be able to field a football team if they had those requirements to get into school..

THIS...The talent difference between what he is working with now, and what he would work with at UM is staggering. You can go a lot faster with more control in a Ferrari, than you can in a Silverado.

Oh sorry, almost forgot GRIZ SUCK....I feel better now
 
grizatwork said:
SoldierGriz said:
grizatwork said:
SoldierGriz said:
And, what has Mines done WITH Stitt?

Where were they before he got there. His record there is better than Don Read's were at his multiple stops. He has made them competitive where they were not.

Good point. If Stitt is our guy, I will rally behind him. Just several unanswered questions for me. I don't buy the rubbish that he hasn't moved up because he didn't want to...that is not how the vast majority of college football coaches are wired. But, maybe he has been content in Golden, and Montana provides him the alternative he's been waiting for. But, really...Montana HC over USC OC? If he is hired, obviously next big step is a very, very good DC to ensure no slip on that side of the ball.

Maybe he likes Coors? I don't know. I just know that the people that I have talked to that know football think he would be a coup for us. He is able to adapt his offense to his personnel better than anyone. No more complaints of square peg in a round hole. Personally, I am not opposed to some fresh air in the program.

Well if he actually likes Coors...he is not our guy! :)
 
If all we want is competitive; keep Mick. This is and should be considered one of the best jobs in FCS and we are now scraping to love a 62.5% D2 coach with ONE playoff win in his career. While we are doing that, Youngstown State has set its sights on Bo Pelini...not great, but at least ballsy.

The same people that are proclaiming the second coming with Stitt have totally trashed another small college coach, Mike Van Diest....WTF. Stitt started as HC in 2000 at CSM and is 108-62 with ONE conference championship, 1-3 playoff record and a 62.5% winning percentage.... Van Diest started as HC in 1999 at Carroll and is 186-30 with 14 conference championships, 6 National Championships, 35-8 playoff record and a 86.1% winning percentage.....nearly the same time frame with completely different results. If you are going to hire a lower level guy (D2, D3 or NAIA) they have to have an impeccable history of dominance where they are at...no FBS school would take a chance on a 62.5% coach that can draw up great plays on cards.

While past performance is not indicative of future success in investments, it is the ONLY rational criteria when filling coaching jobs.
 
SACCAT66 said:
grizcountry420 said:
You guys are ALL forgetting about what he has to work with. The requirements to get into that school are so high that EWU wouldn't be able to field a football team if they had those requirements to get into school..

THIS...The talent difference between what he is working with now, and what he would work with at UM is staggering. You can go a lot faster with more control in a Ferrari, than you can in a Silverado.

Oh sorry, almost forgot GRIZ SUCK....I feel better now

:lol: :lol:
 
I always wonder why Montana or Montana State hasn't hired Mike Van Diest - he's never even in the conversation. I'm guessing he is the most successful college coach in MT history, so why haven't the big schools taken a shot with him?
 
Zootown Rox said:
I always wonder why Montana or Montana State hasn't hired Mike Van Diest - he's never even in the conversation. I'm guessing he is the most successful college coach in MT history, so why haven't the big schools taken a shot with him?

He was in the mix for the MSU job at one time but then withdrew his name. At least that is what I recall.
 
Oline Coach said:
If all we want is competitive; keep Mick. This is and should be considered one of the best jobs in FCS and we are now scraping to love a 62.5% D2 coach with ONE playoff win in his career. While we are doing that, Youngstown State has set its sights on Bo Pelini...not great, but at least ballsy.

The same people that are proclaiming the second coming with Stitt have totally trashed another small college coach, Mike Van Diest....WTF. Stitt started as HC in 2000 at CSM and is 108-62 with ONE conference championship, 1-3 playoff record and a 62.5% winning percentage.... Van Diest started as HC in 1999 at Carroll and is 186-30 with 14 conference championships, 6 National Championships, 35-8 playoff record and a 86.1% winning percentage.....nearly the same time frame with completely different results. If you are going to hire a lower level guy (D2, D3 or NAIA) they have to have an impeccable history of dominance where they are at...no FBS school would take a chance on a 62.5% coach that can draw up great plays on cards.

While past performance is not indicative of future success in investments, it is the ONLY rational criteria when filling coaching jobs.

Why would anyone hire a coach who quit on his team a week before the season, then came back?

Also, he'd have to recruit athletes that can pass a whiz quiz.
 
DuCharme said:
LovinD_laney said:
HookedonGriz said:
Have you watched Oregon play football? In my opinion, that would be a perfect example of an offense that someone tries to scheme against but just can't. They consistently put up 40 to 50 points a game regardless of what the defense tries to do. From what I'm reading and seeing with Stitt's offense it's hard to stop when running properly.

Wait till Oregon matches up with Alabama/Ohio St., if they get past FSU . Then you will witness a defense stop that offense. Especially Alabama's D.

They played a SEC team for the 2011 national championship. Lost on a last second field goal. But they DID hang 449 yards on that SEC defense.

They've been there, done what you assumed they didn't.

Hardly... Oregon scored 19 points. Quite a disparity from what their offense was averaging that season. Also, Auburn with Newton put up points, the 2010 Tigers were not known for their defense necessarily. Plus, you basically proved my point which is a decent SEC defense stopped and incredible, possibly the nations best, offense.

Stitt may have a great offense, but how are his defenses??
 
kurtismichael said:
Zootown Rox said:
I always wonder why Montana or Montana State hasn't hired Mike Van Diest - he's never even in the conversation. I'm guessing he is the most successful college coach in MT history, so why haven't the big schools taken a shot with him?

He was in the mix for the MSU job at one time but then withdrew his name. At least that is what I recall.

MVD might have withdrawn his name from consideration of the MSU job, but after the interviews, he was a very distant 4th place of the 4 candidates. He blew the interview so bad, people in the room actually felt bad for him. He was uncomfortable, stumbled around, it was just not a good situation. He was my pick going into the whole process, but after interviews, he was no longer a consideration at all.

UM is not the place for MVD either. He is successful and very happy at Carroll, he will retire there.
 
Setting Stitt's proven offense aside shouldn't the concerns about defense be directed not so much on him personally, but on the assurance he'll bring in a strong defensive coordinator :?:

Look around...the best HC's are first and foremost astute judges of the talent needed to make up a winning coaching staff.
 
Silvertip said:
Setting Stitt's proven offense aside shouldn't the concerns about defense be directed not so much on him personally, but on the assurance he'll bring in a strong defensive coordinator :?:

Look around...the best HC's are first and foremost astute judges of the talent needed to make up a winning coaching staff.

:!: YES!
 
MVD-" He blew the interview so bad, people in the room actually felt bad for him. He was uncomfortable, stumbled around, it was just not a good situation."

BS. He pulled out legitimately because he was loyal to his program and didn't want to leave them hanging in the spring. He had that job and Idaho State at one point if he chose to take them.

This handful of posters who have it out for MVD don't know what they are talking about. Oline Coach is absolutely correct.
 
Was reading that Pease was our OC in 96.
I was there and there wasn't any better--still a FCS record for points in the playoff vs opponents. 240 (close guess) vs about 16

Look it up.

Hire him
 
The same old MVD argument. lotsa can argue, but MVD actually withdrew from both MSU and UM coaching searches when it became apparent that he would not get the job. I think at this time he is where he will be until he is done with coaching. And I call BS on "he pulled out because he was loyal to the program", he would have packed up and been gone in a second if he would have been offered either job.

Also I am not advocating for Stitt one way or another, but Oline Coach should probably dig a little deeper into the guys background and learn more about the school. What you deem unacceptable is actually very good.
 
I have read up on Stitt and just have an odd feeling about the guy. I understand he might not get or have access to the top talent. However if his offense was so dynamic one would think his win record would be a bit better. I just don't know what it is but I just don't get the feeling he will be the next Griz coach.

I could be wrong but something just ain't right with him. Anyone else have that feeling?

It might seem odd but he just looks odd or kinda creepy.
 
lotsa said:
MVD-" He blew the interview so bad, people in the room actually felt bad for him. He was uncomfortable, stumbled around, it was just not a good situation."

BS. He pulled out legitimately because he was loyal to his program and didn't want to leave them hanging in the spring. He had that job and Idaho State at one point if he chose to take them.

This handful of posters who have it out for MVD don't know what they are talking about. Oline Coach is absolutely correct.

Believe what you want, you obviously were not present for Mikes interview. I've met him several times, coached my nephew at CC too. He is a fantastic coach and an even better person, but he was not getting an offer from MSU after his interview, that was very clear.
 
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