Stitt will be fine.

[nzone]

KumBaYa my lord Kumbaya...... is that better or does everyone have to hold hands to generate that positive feeling of Stitt happened or happens :lol:

I really don't get how some Griz "fans" would even think of criticizing a new coach three games in. Come back in a couple years when he has had time to recruit to his system. As far as his system being criticized, it seems to me it's similar to what Oregon, Baylor, TCU and even Ol Miss and some others are doing now. They are kicking ass and winning games. Three weeks after Stitts Griz win arguably one of the top 3 games ever played in WaGriz, on National TV, against the no 1 team in FCS and some are moaning. It's not a righteous demand for perfection, it's just plain whining.

So maybe you can explain why if we were so good against NDSU why we have been so bad lately. It seems reasonable to see week to week improvement and yet this team has done the opposite. The reality if Jones doesn't make some circus catches we are never in last nights game. 3 of 16 on third down? Good grief that's horrible! Oh I'm glad you think the only "fan" is one who knows Kum Ba Ya. Every predecessor has under gone criticism and so will every successor. Glad you like one game wonders but I would like some consistency and growth so if you consider that whining so be it.

Well QB breaks leg early. Might have affected things. But. Yep. Whiner.

 

[bandit218]

They executed during the NDSU game. NDSU also showed the next 2 (good teams) what not to do. There is film on his offense at this level now. Cal Poly played two safeties over the receivers so BG was forced to be accurate.

This type of offense needs to be in sync to be good. It seems that with this O-line, there isn't enough time to get into sync. I would also like to see Stitt slow the offense down in instances that the defense is constantly on the field. Because right now his offense seems to be wearing the wrong defense out.

 

[uofmman1122]

Delaney recruits with the same Delaney issues.

But it's totally the new guy's fault.

 

[Buttegrizzle]

Some of these Oline are Pflu recruits aren't they?

Albino brings up another good point. I had a crappy tv picture streamed from 'chrome but it looked like a dropped a TD pass as well as the other obvious key mistakes.

I'm not happy to be 1-2 but I am not ready to dispair. Not even close. We have seen what this team can do when it clicked and even with poor play they can still hang with top 20 teams.

 

[CFallsGriz]

Call it whining if you want to. But last night was really...bad.

To label people whiners because they're concerned about execution makes you a top-tier sugar coater.

I'm actually glad it was sh*tty internet-only broadcast, so the nation didn't have to witness it. Bad for the brand.

The sky is not falling in my opinion, but it was bad. If you're a coach and think anything else, it's time to swing by Walmart and pick up an application.

 

[Buttegrizzle]

Not saying it wasnt bad. Of course it was bad. Bad execution of plays. Just saying man up and don't lynch the new coach. Damn you are a bunch of fair weathers.

 

[AZGrizFan]

What is happening is Stitt is finding out that division 1 and 2 are a completely different animals and things that worked at Mines won't work against good defensive coordinators at The FCS level. He mentioned he practices against the best defense in the country. Last night his offense was stifled by another pretty good defense.
Anyway I will be at the games because that's what I do. Difference is I'm not expecting a lot. Pure entertainment at this point.

Seriously? It works FINE. What DOESN'T work is an offensive line that can't get 2 yards running the ball when it needs to. Receivers who routinely drop 5-7 passes a game that hit them right in the bread basket. A team that consistently leaves points on the field with poor special teams (specifically kicking game) play. Fumbling on the 1 yard line. A defense that gives up multiple HUGE plays (39, 72, 43, 32, 30, 40 yards).

NONE of those things have anything to do with "scheme" or "good defensive coordinators".

Anybody with a brainstem knew that a) the NDSU game was an anomaly and b) this system was going to take a while (even longer than Pflu's, potentially) to install and get running smoothly.

 

[albinogriz]

What is happening is Stitt is finding out that division 1 and 2 are a completely different animals and things that worked at Mines won't work against good defensive coordinators at The FCS level. He mentioned he practices against the best defense in the country. Last night his offense was stifled by another pretty good defense.
Anyway I will be at the games because that's what I do. Difference is I'm not expecting a lot. Pure entertainment at this point.

Seriously? It works FINE. What DOESN'T work is an offensive line that can't get 2 yards running the ball when it needs to. Receivers who routinely drop 5-7 passes a game that hit them right in the bread basket. A team that consistently leaves points on the field with poor special teams (specifically kicking game) play. Fumbling on the 1 yard line. A defense that gives up multiple HUGE plays (39, 72, 43, 32, 30, 40 yards).

NONE of those things have anything to do with "scheme" or "good defensive coordinators".

Anybody with a brainstem knew that a) the NDSU game was an anomaly and b) this system was going to take a while (even longer than Pflu's, potentially) to install and get running smoothly.

Thing is..... Most of what you bring up hurts/deflates a team regardless of offensive or defensive system employed... Dropping passes, missing kicks, turnovers..... No system runs smooth no matter how long it's in place when your mental preparedness to focus on your 1 11 isn't there.

 

[AZGrizFan]

What is happening is Stitt is finding out that division 1 and 2 are a completely different animals and things that worked at Mines won't work against good defensive coordinators at The FCS level. He mentioned he practices against the best defense in the country. Last night his offense was stifled by another pretty good defense.
Anyway I will be at the games because that's what I do. Difference is I'm not expecting a lot. Pure entertainment at this point.

Seriously? It works FINE. What DOESN'T work is an offensive line that can't get 2 yards running the ball when it needs to. Receivers who routinely drop 5-7 passes a game that hit them right in the bread basket. A team that consistently leaves points on the field with poor special teams (specifically kicking game) play. Fumbling on the 1 yard line. A defense that gives up multiple HUGE plays (39, 72, 43, 32, 30, 40 yards).

NONE of those things have anything to do with "scheme" or "good defensive coordinators".

Anybody with a brainstem knew that a) the NDSU game was an anomaly and b) this system was going to take a while (even longer than Pflu's, potentially) to install and get running smoothly.

Thing is..... Most of what you bring up hurts/deflates a team regardless of offensive or defensive system employed... Dropping passes, missing kicks, turnovers..... No system runs smooth no matter how long it's in place when your mental preparedness to focus on your 1 11 isn't there.

Agreed 100%. That's why it's not his "system" that's the issue. Now, comment on his actual COACHING might be correct...he (and his DC) failed to get their teams ready to play yesterday. It showed in all phases of the game.

 

[albinogriz]

What is happening is Stitt is finding out that division 1 and 2 are a completely different animals and things that worked at Mines won't work against good defensive coordinators at The FCS level. He mentioned he practices against the best defense in the country. Last night his offense was stifled by another pretty good defense.
Anyway I will be at the games because that's what I do. Difference is I'm not expecting a lot. Pure entertainment at this point.

Seriously? It works FINE. What DOESN'T work is an offensive line that can't get 2 yards running the ball when it needs to. Receivers who routinely drop 5-7 passes a game that hit them right in the bread basket. A team that consistently leaves points on the field with poor special teams (specifically kicking game) play. Fumbling on the 1 yard line. A defense that gives up multiple HUGE plays (39, 72, 43, 32, 30, 40 yards).

NONE of those things have anything to do with "scheme" or "good defensive coordinators".

Anybody with a brainstem knew that a) the NDSU game was an anomaly and b) this system was going to take a while (even longer than Pflu's, potentially) to install and get running smoothly.

Thing is..... Most of what you bring up hurts/deflates a team regardless of offensive or defensive system employed... Dropping passes, missing kicks, turnovers..... No system runs smooth no matter how long it's in place when your mental preparedness to focus on your 1 11 isn't there.

Agreed 100%. That's why it's not his "system" that's the issue. Now, comment on his actual COACHING might be correct...he (and his DC) failed to get their teams ready to play yesterday. It showed in all phases of the game.

Agree... He might have a barn burner of an offensive game plan.... But getting the kids to execute it is another matter. With the mistakes they're making I believe most of it's mental and that's on the coaches.

 

[IdaGriz01]

... Agreed 100%. That's why it's not his "system" that's the issue. Now, comment on his actual COACHING might be correct...he (and his DC) failed to get their teams ready to play yesterday. It showed in all phases of the game.

Agree... He might have a barn burner of an offensive game plan.... But getting the kids to execute it is another matter. With the mistakes they're making I believe most of it's mental and that's on the coaches.

Now, I'm going to wing one here ... but it's been a thought on my mind since Stitt was hired. And I love the Stitt hire. It's brought new excitement and recognition to the program that we have not seen for some time.

Here's my winger: For 15 years Stitt coached guys who took everything they do pretty seriously. That's not to say that engineering students don't party, but it's generally pretty low-key and not something they take to extremes -- they're too busy studying their a**es off for much of that.

Now he has a more "typical" mix of student-athletes, many of whom do like to party, kick back for bull sessions, and all that. He took some stern measures early on to squelch the more egregious stupidities, and that was good. But having said that, I worry that Stitt's experience with really serious student-athletes did not quite prepare him for a subset of athletes who might not have the level of commitment that he could take for granted at Mines. That could mean he should be bearing down a little (lot?) more than he's used to. If so, that's another learning curve for Stitt as a coach at this level -- but he's clearly a really smart guy and that will come too.

Just a thought.

 

[Umista]

GRIZ FANS, GET IN THE GAME.

Football. It's not life and death. It just seems like it to some of us. We (Griz) need to go through this process and actually learn how to lose (I hate it) and when we become winners it will become much more gratifying. We will remember the hard and bad days of losing. To become winners we must first learn how to lose. At that point we become great winners and we can handle ourselves with dignity. Not slob winners. In the meantime one needs to remember only a few are winners. Most are involved with teams that do not win championships. They are used to it. Only hard work will make people winners. It does not matter if it is in business, sports or family. I have great experience in all of those. I have been on losing teams and championship teams. I have worked at jobs I did not win or lose at. I had business ventures that were bad. I also owned some that were very good and I am thankfull for that because my family can live very well in the future.

This business of complaining or whining about a coach after three games is always going to happen right or wrong. The proper time to bitch is more like after three seasons. Only then does one have a solid
basis to judge a coach. I have hired hundreds of people and made a few wrong moves and also made some very good and perhaps lucky choices.

I met coach Stitt last summer. I got to size the man up and I would have had him on my team and liked what I saw. The man is good and with him the Griz will have great and exciting teams and down the road we will win championships. We are very lucky to have him. Remember this statement three years from now.

 

[Ursa Major]

Not saying it wasnt bad. Of course it was bad. Bad execution of plays. Just saying man up and don't lynch the new coach. Damn you are a bunch of fair weathers.

BG,

I don't hear a lot of people disagreeing with you. Sure we have the doom and gloom crowd but they are the usual suspects that have been critical for the past five years. On a board with such large numbers, unlike catville or the dead zone, you will find a multitude of opinions and some negative. At this point, for the most part, I think the vast majority of us realize that this system change will take time and fully support the coach and team.

If anyone wants to see a melt down go to catville and look up the posts on or around; 11/23/13 & 11/22/14.

 

[spsyk]

Let me get straight, coach Stitt offense is working, the problem is, he didn't recruit these kids, ( which for the most part are some of the best athletes the Griz have had, ) he just needs a few years to get it all together.

He is not responsible for the execution of the athletes, dropping passes, running poor routes, missing blocks,and a poor inefficient OL.

So, can someone answer this for me, if we have the wrong athletes for this offensive scheme, why is the head coach and also one in the same the offensive coordinator trying to run an offensive that is not suited to his athletes, and adept an offense till he gets the athletes he needs to accomplish what he is trying to do.

Now, I could be wrong, however I believe his job is to win football games, and not a training program for three or four years of running an offense that is not conducive to his athletes.

Good and experienced coaches work with what they are dealt, great coaches create overachievers, and if coach Stitt can't win with the athletes,that are in his stable now, I suppose we will know in three years if this experiment has merit.

Hopefully it does, because the consequences of a failure, will be more than detrimental to the program.

After the miracle victory over NDSU, IT HAS BEEN DOWN HILL.

It appears all the coaches we're recruiting for two weeks instead of preparing to win a football game.

Just my opinion in a heated rant, that make sense to me and will piss others off.

 

[mcg]

My concern is that the Griz seem to be going backwards and I haven't heard a lot from Mr. Stitt that leads me to conclude that he knows why and has a plan to deal with it. After Poly he was asked (on the coaches show) why the interceptions occurred and he said (I'm paraphrasing here) "I don't know". After last nights game he said that the Griz have "some things to clean up"; which scares me because I endured Dan Hawkins at CU. Coach Hawkins standard answer after any loss was that there were "some things to clean up".

 

[Umista]

Most ADs hire a coach for the long term. Not for three games. Long term Stitt needs to do just what he is doing to insure kids learn the system, now and the incoming kids. Kids teach each other and it is way faster to utilize the older players to pass it on. Don Read took a few years to do the same thing. Recruited kids for his program. Took him ABOUT three years to get it all rolling.

 

[spsyk]

Most ADs hire a coach for the long term. Not for three games. Long term Stitt needs to do just what he is doing to insure kids learn the system, now and the incoming kids. Kids teach each other and it is way faster to utilize the older players to pass it on. Don Read took a few years to do the same thing. Recruited kids for his program. Took him ABOUT three years to get it all rolling.

I done recall the AD telling the fans that this is a three year work in progress, and Don Read came into the program with very little in the stable and was competitive in spite of it, coach Read not only built a fine team he enhanced the program higher than it stands now.

I know that you have no doubt of coach Stitt success, however what if you are wrong, what suffers?

 

[bigkid]

Most ADs hire a coach for the long term. Not for three games. Long term Stitt needs to do just what he is doing to insure kids learn the system, now and the incoming kids. Kids teach each other and it is way faster to utilize the older players to pass it on. Don Read took a few years to do the same thing. Recruited kids for his program. Took him ABOUT three years to get it all rolling.

I done recall the AD telling the fans that this is a three year work in progress, and Don Read came into the program with very little in the stable and was competitive in spite of it, coach Read not only built a fine team he enhanced the program higher than it stands now.

I know that you have no doubt of coach Stitt success, however what if you are wrong, what suffers?

So the next three years will be a lesson in how to lose as you previously posted. :roll:
Next time I speak with Kent I'm going to ask him why we weren't informed about this 3 year until we will perform deal. Personally I think your full of Stitt.

 

[spsyk]

Most ADs hire a coach for the long term. Not for three games. Long term Stitt needs to do just what he is doing to insure kids learn the system, now and the incoming kids. Kids teach each other and it is way faster to utilize the older players to pass it on. Don Read took a few years to do the same thing. Recruited kids for his program. Took him ABOUT three years to get it all rolling.

I done recall the AD telling the fans that this is a three year work in progress, and Don Read came into the program with very little in the stable and was competitive in spite of it, coach Read not only built a fine team he enhanced the program higher than it stands now.

I know that you have no doubt of coach Stitt success, however what if you are wrong, what suffers?

So the next three years will be a lesson in how to lose as you previously posted. :roll:
Next time I speak with Kent I'm going to ask him why we weren't informed about this 3 year until we will perform deal. Personally I think your full of Stitt.

Don't care what you you think personally, it's irrelavant and of no consequence, however since coach Read, every coach that replace him and there successors where expected to win and for the most part did, including Mick Delaney, and not with a three year training period, so please the next time your name dropping or talking to Kent, please give him my regards, and my opinion of a training period.

 

[bigkid]

Uh my comments were directed at umista. But I will give Kent your regards.