Stitt expectations

[stubbins]

I expect a fire the coach thread after the first game of 2015.

wager on who starts it...? I'll take NLGrizfan and O-linecoach...you get the field.

 

[grizindabox]

I'll be laughing at you poor bastards after we miss the playoffs then you'll say "it was a rebuilding year. Then the next season you'll be calling for his head. Then he'll be known as the worst coach to ever set foot in Wa-Griz.

you make it seem like the playoffs are a guarantee if anyone else is the head coach...it is not...

it is possible he fails...but it also just as possible that any other coach could fail...

Very true. But I believe the possibilities are a lot higher if we get someone in here that KNOWS Griz Football and about The Pride And Tradition this is instilled at UM. We've got the best fan base in the FCS. And we're gonna trust it to an outsider? I f***[*] hate the idea of him at the helm. Hate It.

LOL

 

[NLGrizFan]

I expect a fire the coach thread after the first game of 2015.

wager on who starts it...? I'll take NLGrizfan and O-linecoach...you get the field.

Hell, I'll start it right now :lol:

 

[SoldierGriz]

Some of you are such prima donnas it is unbelievable. Thankfully, I am not involved in the coaching search as I have zero credentials to offer. I am just a fan of the Griz. I think they'll choose the best candidate in the end.

But, to think it is unreasonable to have questions about Stitt is crazy. It is also not unreasonable to have questions about Hauck or Pease. The biggest head scratcher to me about Stitt has to do with his record at Mines. Perhaps he DID in fact get every ounce of potential out of his kids in a tough academic setting. I am hopeful that is the case.

But - the concerns some have ref Stitt are fair and not as unreasonable as some of you claim them to be.

 

[uofmman1122]

Some of you are such prima donnas it is unbelievable. Thankfully, I am not involved in the coaching search as I have zero credentials to offer. I am just a fan of the Griz. I think they'll choose the best candidate in the end.

But, to think it is unreasonable to have questions about Stitt is crazy. It is also not unreasonable to have questions about Hauck or Pease. The biggest head scratcher to me about Stitt has to do with his record at Mines. Perhaps he DID in fact get every ounce of potential out of his kids in a tough academic setting. I am hopeful that is the case.

But - the concerns some have ref Stitt are fair and not as unreasonable as some of you claim them to be.

Questioning him is totally fine. Even though I think he is a fantastic hire, I still am wary that he could come in and be a complete bust.

However, we have people insisting he will fail, that we've already made the worst mistake EVER, but who are also claiming Hauck would come in here and win 5 NCs in 3 years (or something like that).

You can't have it both ways. IMO, Hauck has WAY more baggage than any potential candidate to date. Don Read was an outside offensive innovator, and he worked out okay. Stitt might have some growing pains, but to say Hauck or Pease wouldn't is ridiculous. Hauck can't magically make all our O-Linemen 300+ pounds and three inches taller.

 

[NLGrizFan]

Some of you are such prima donnas it is unbelievable. Thankfully, I am not involved in the coaching search as I have zero credentials to offer. I am just a fan of the Griz. I think they'll choose the best candidate in the end.

But, to think it is unreasonable to have questions about Stitt is crazy. It is also not unreasonable to have questions about Hauck or Pease. The biggest head scratcher to me about Stitt has to do with his record at Mines. Perhaps he DID in fact get every ounce of potential out of his kids in a tough academic setting. I am hopeful that is the case.

But - the concerns some have ref Stitt are fair and not as unreasonable as some of you claim them to be.

Can't we just have Craig Bohl? Haha

 

[Raider]

Exhibit A as to why most people think Griz fan are idiots.

 

[Ursa Major]

Exhibit A as to why most people think Griz fan are idiots.

The defense rests, your honor.

 

[grizindabox]

Some of you are such prima donnas it is unbelievable. Thankfully, I am not involved in the coaching search as I have zero credentials to offer. I am just a fan of the Griz. I think they'll choose the best candidate in the end.

But, to think it is unreasonable to have questions about Stitt is crazy. It is also not unreasonable to have questions about Hauck or Pease. The biggest head scratcher to me about Stitt has to do with his record at Mines. Perhaps he DID in fact get every ounce of potential out of his kids in a tough academic setting. I am hopeful that is the case.

But - the concerns some have ref Stitt are fair and not as unreasonable as some of you claim them to be.

Can't we just have Craig Bohl? Haha

Bohl is an outsider and you already stated that is not acceptable, the guy must KNOW Griz Football and about The Pride And Tradition this is instilled at UM.

 

[NLGrizFan]

Some of you are such prima donnas it is unbelievable. Thankfully, I am not involved in the coaching search as I have zero credentials to offer. I am just a fan of the Griz. I think they'll choose the best candidate in the end.

But, to think it is unreasonable to have questions about Stitt is crazy. It is also not unreasonable to have questions about Hauck or Pease. The biggest head scratcher to me about Stitt has to do with his record at Mines. Perhaps he DID in fact get every ounce of potential out of his kids in a tough academic setting. I am hopeful that is the case.

But - the concerns some have ref Stitt are fair and not as unreasonable as some of you claim them to be.

Can't we just have Craig Bohl? Haha

Bohl is an outsider and you already stated that is not acceptable, the guy must KNOW Griz Football and about The Pride And Tradition this is instilled at UM.

It was a joke. This whole thing is a joke.

 

[grizindabox]

Some of you are such prima donnas it is unbelievable. Thankfully, I am not involved in the coaching search as I have zero credentials to offer. I am just a fan of the Griz. I think they'll choose the best candidate in the end.

But, to think it is unreasonable to have questions about Stitt is crazy. It is also not unreasonable to have questions about Hauck or Pease. The biggest head scratcher to me about Stitt has to do with his record at Mines. Perhaps he DID in fact get every ounce of potential out of his kids in a tough academic setting. I am hopeful that is the case.

But - the concerns some have ref Stitt are fair and not as unreasonable as some of you claim them to be.

Can't we just have Craig Bohl? Haha

Bohl is an outsider and you already stated that is not acceptable, the guy must KNOW Griz Football and about The Pride And Tradition this is instilled at UM.

It was a joke. This whole thing is a joke.

your persona?

 

[NLGrizFan]

Can't we just have Craig Bohl? Haha

Bohl is an outsider and you already stated that is not acceptable, the guy must KNOW Griz Football and about The Pride And Tradition this is instilled at UM.

It was a joke. This whole thing is a joke.

your persona?

Can't we just have a new coach announcement already? This is driving me nuts!

 

[Grizguyjj]

All I want is to win and go deep into the playoffs...is that so much to ask for? :roll:

 

[Oline Coach]

So far the following expectations have been offered (in no particular order):

Hunt for Big Sky title
Playoff run every year
8-3 next season with a playoff run
16-0 National Championship
National Championship run every year
Not too shabby, playoff runs and titles aside
Innovative offense, stingy defense, win Big Sky with deep playoff runs most years
Championship or bust
Take to the next level
Capable of winning NC
Transform into better coach at this level like Don Read did
Playoffs with multiple home games
Athletes that graduate with good earning power
Win conference, Top 10, deep playoffs
Kick Bobcats ass, win or share title every year with deep playoffs
Win every game
Good grades, see what happens on the field

Seems reasonable.....for a different coaching candidate.

You sure have your panties in a big ole bunch over the hiring of Stitt....

The problem I have with hiring Stitt is the expectations here and his historical performance as a HC don't match up....I fully realize coaching at CSM is not fair with their academic standards different than most, but most coaches when they get evaluated for bigger and better jobs are not projected to be better at the new, higher level. Very few coaches get that sort of forward projection, most recent being Lane Kiffin when USC hired him after going a very average 7-6 at Tennessee. Stitt has won ONE playoff game in his career, there is no way to sugarcoat that glaring problem. By contrast, onetime candidate Lance Leipold is 33-1 in the playoffs in his career....having won FIVE national titles, playing for a sixth this week.

The other challenge I foresee is the patience with Griz fans. If next season starts out rocky (which given the schedule it could) I could see a drastic attendance drop.....lots of empty seats at Wash Griz, with those in attendance taking an even longer break at halftime. Those fans with a big drive (30% of season ticket holders drive greater than 100 miles each way) will not renew or come to games. We are one sub 500 season away from 5,000+ open seats per home game.

Those are the concerns I have with the Stitt hire.

 

[MrTitleist]

That wasn't the case when Delaney took us to a 5-6 record or something his first year.

 

[poorgriz]

Some of you are such prima donnas it is unbelievable. Thankfully, I am not involved in the coaching search as I have zero credentials to offer. I am just a fan of the Griz. I think they'll choose the best candidate in the end.

But, to think it is unreasonable to have questions about Stitt is crazy. It is also not unreasonable to have questions about Hauck or Pease. The biggest head scratcher to me about Stitt has to do with his record at Mines. Perhaps he DID in fact get every ounce of potential out of his kids in a tough academic setting. I am hopeful that is the case.

But - the concerns some have ref Stitt are fair and not as unreasonable as some of you claim them to be.

Can't we just have Craig Bohl? Haha

Bohl is an outsider and you already stated that is not acceptable, the guy must KNOW Griz Football and about The Pride And Tradition this is instilled at UM.

It was a joke. This whole thing is a joke.

This post of yours certainly isn't a joke. Jesus. I'm assuming you would have said it this way too - this one is like fingers on a chalkboard for me. :yikes:

"Ok thanks. I seen the thread but passed by it. Headed that way."

 

[grizindabox]

So far the following expectations have been offered (in no particular order):

Hunt for Big Sky title
Playoff run every year
8-3 next season with a playoff run
16-0 National Championship
National Championship run every year
Not too shabby, playoff runs and titles aside
Innovative offense, stingy defense, win Big Sky with deep playoff runs most years
Championship or bust
Take to the next level
Capable of winning NC
Transform into better coach at this level like Don Read did
Playoffs with multiple home games
Athletes that graduate with good earning power
Win conference, Top 10, deep playoffs
Kick Bobcats ass, win or share title every year with deep playoffs
Win every game
Good grades, see what happens on the field

Seems reasonable.....for a different coaching candidate.

You sure have your panties in a big ole bunch over the hiring of Stitt....

The problem I have with hiring Stitt is the expectations here and his historical performance as a HC don't match up....I fully realize coaching at CSM is not fair with their academic standards different than most, but most coaches when they get evaluated for bigger and better jobs are not projected to be better at the new, higher level. Very few coaches get that sort of forward projection, most recent being Lane Kiffin when USC hired him after going a very average 7-6 at Tennessee. Stitt has won ONE playoff game in his career, there is no way to sugarcoat that glaring problem. By contrast, onetime candidate Lance Leipold is 33-1 in the playoffs in his career....having won FIVE national titles, playing for a sixth this week.

The other challenge I foresee is the patience with Griz fans. If next season starts out rocky (which given the schedule it could) I could see a drastic attendance drop.....lots of empty seats at Wash Griz, with those in attendance taking an even longer break at halftime. Those fans with a big drive (30% of season ticket holders drive greater than 100 miles each way) will not renew or come to games. We are one sub 500 season away from 5,000+ open seats per home game.

Those are the concerns I have with the Stitt hire.

So by using your logic, you would have the same questions about Brent Pease or any other candidate that did not have winning head coaching experience?

 

[NLGrizFan]

Can't we just have Craig Bohl? Haha

Bohl is an outsider and you already stated that is not acceptable, the guy must KNOW Griz Football and about The Pride And Tradition this is instilled at UM.

It was a joke. This whole thing is a joke.

This post of yours certainly isn't a joke. Jesus. I'm assuming you would have said it this way too - this one is like fingers on a chalkboard for me. :yikes:

"Ok thanks. I seen the thread but passed by it. Headed that way."

I see you missed the next post after that... :msugrad:

 

[Oline Coach]

So far the following expectations have been offered (in no particular order):

Hunt for Big Sky title
Playoff run every year
8-3 next season with a playoff run
16-0 National Championship
National Championship run every year
Not too shabby, playoff runs and titles aside
Innovative offense, stingy defense, win Big Sky with deep playoff runs most years
Championship or bust
Take to the next level
Capable of winning NC
Transform into better coach at this level like Don Read did
Playoffs with multiple home games
Athletes that graduate with good earning power
Win conference, Top 10, deep playoffs
Kick Bobcats ass, win or share title every year with deep playoffs
Win every game
Good grades, see what happens on the field

Seems reasonable.....for a different coaching candidate.

You sure have your panties in a big ole bunch over the hiring of Stitt....

The problem I have with hiring Stitt is the expectations here and his historical performance as a HC don't match up....I fully realize coaching at CSM is not fair with their academic standards different than most, but most coaches when they get evaluated for bigger and better jobs are not projected to be better at the new, higher level. Very few coaches get that sort of forward projection, most recent being Lane Kiffin when USC hired him after going a very average 7-6 at Tennessee. Stitt has won ONE playoff game in his career, there is no way to sugarcoat that glaring problem. By contrast, onetime candidate Lance Leipold is 33-1 in the playoffs in his career....having won FIVE national titles, playing for a sixth this week.

The other challenge I foresee is the patience with Griz fans. If next season starts out rocky (which given the schedule it could) I could see a drastic attendance drop.....lots of empty seats at Wash Griz, with those in attendance taking an even longer break at halftime. Those fans with a big drive (30% of season ticket holders drive greater than 100 miles each way) will not renew or come to games. We are one sub 500 season away from 5,000+ open seats per home game.

Those are the concerns I have with the Stitt hire.

So by using your logic, you would have the same questions about Brent Pease or any other candidate that did not have winning head coaching experience?

In my mind, the experience Pease brings with him mutes those issues as does Ty's experience...coordinators get judged on the performance of their side of the ball divided by team performance. Guys with head coaching experience get judged on wins/loses......maybe my issue with Stitt is he is getting evaluated positively as an "offensive coordinator genius" not as a 62% successful head coach.

 

[grizindabox]

You sure have your panties in a big ole bunch over the hiring of Stitt....

The problem I have with hiring Stitt is the expectations here and his historical performance as a HC don't match up....I fully realize coaching at CSM is not fair with their academic standards different than most, but most coaches when they get evaluated for bigger and better jobs are not projected to be better at the new, higher level. Very few coaches get that sort of forward projection, most recent being Lane Kiffin when USC hired him after going a very average 7-6 at Tennessee. Stitt has won ONE playoff game in his career, there is no way to sugarcoat that glaring problem. By contrast, onetime candidate Lance Leipold is 33-1 in the playoffs in his career....having won FIVE national titles, playing for a sixth this week.

The other challenge I foresee is the patience with Griz fans. If next season starts out rocky (which given the schedule it could) I could see a drastic attendance drop.....lots of empty seats at Wash Griz, with those in attendance taking an even longer break at halftime. Those fans with a big drive (30% of season ticket holders drive greater than 100 miles each way) will not renew or come to games. We are one sub 500 season away from 5,000+ open seats per home game.

Those are the concerns I have with the Stitt hire.

So by using your logic, you would have the same questions about Brent Pease or any other candidate that did not have winning head coaching experience?

In my mind, the experience Pease brings with him mutes those issues as does Ty's experience...coordinators get judged on the performance of their side of the ball divided by team performance. Guys with head coaching experience get judged on wins/loses......maybe my issue with Stitt is he is getting evaluated positively as an "offensive coordinator genius" not as a 62% successful head coach.

so you want to use a double standard to evaluate. you want to give BP and TG the benefit of the doubt based on their circumstances (coordinators) but not to Stitt (head coach at an institution that has much higher academic standards which does not allow him to recruit the same players as his peers)