Stitt and Gregorak very different approaches

[Umista]

More on Ty being relieved. I made that statement regarding Ty and he knew he was not quite ready to take on the Head Coaching duties at Montana. He knows he needs a few more years experience to handle the head coaching job at the Griz helm. Relieved might have been a tad strong. Nothing I said was meant to tarnish Mick in any way, Ty likes him very much.

After visiting with Ty he was damned happy to continue coaching the defense. Excited is more like it. He will continue to grow in this job and I believe he also will learn some new tips and tricks from his new boss. Again I see Stitt and Gregorak being a strong pair that will improve every part of Griz football!

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I do really like Gregorak as a DC...that being said I cannot stand spineless DCs who refuse to press with their corners....the easiest way to take a receiver out of the game is getting physical at the line with them..receivers haaaate that....make them work all game....a free release off the line is bullshit and should not be tolerated.

 

[UMGriz75]

Ty Gregorak proved himself this past season. Any head coach would be after a DC with that kind of record.

I still feel sorry for Jake Bleskin, but it was Gregorak who "read" that very good offense and simply hammered it. Prukop's blessing was that he got through the season without having to face that Defense, and if he had, I doubt the result would have been much different than the "Cat-astrophe" that it was.

 

[G-BEARS]

Ty Gregorak proved himself this past season. Any head coach would be after a DC with that kind of record.

I still feel sorry for Jake Bleskin, but it was Gregorak who "read" that very good offense and simply hammered it. Prukop's blessing was that he got through the season without having to face that Defense, and if he had, I doubt the result would have been much different than the "Cat-astrophe" that it was.

I don't quite buy into that. We had the 39th ranked defense as far as YPG allowed nationally. At 359 yards allowed per game that would have ranked us 6th in the CAA, and 4th in the MVC. That's not good enough in my opinion. I'm not saying we had a bad defense, they came up in clutch situations and were good in the redzone. The d-line was great, secondary not so much. If we want to move beyond being content with an early playoff exit, then our defense needs to improve just as much as our offense from this past year. Gregorak still hasn't proved himself to me. The positive for me though is that his defenses seem to have improved every year since taking over as DC, for this reason I have hope that the trend will continue and he'll get our defense back to where it should be.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Ty Gregorak proved himself this past season. Any head coach would be after a DC with that kind of record.

I still feel sorry for Jake Bleskin, but it was Gregorak who "read" that very good offense and simply hammered it. Prukop's blessing was that he got through the season without having to face that Defense, and if he had, I doubt the result would have been much different than the "Cat-astrophe" that it was.

I don't quite buy into that. We had the 39th ranked defense as far as YPG allowed nationally. At 359 yards allowed per game that would have ranked us 6th in the CAA, and 4th in the MVC. That's not good enough in my opinion. I'm not saying we had a bad defense, they came up in clutch situations and were good in the redzone. The d-line was great, secondary not so much. If we want to move beyond being content with an early playoff exit, then our defense needs to improve just as much as our offense from this past year. Gregorak still hasn't proved himself to me. The positive for me though is that his defenses seem to have improved every year since taking over as DC, for this reason I have hope that the trend will continue and he'll get our defense back to where it should be.

Keep in mind: The BSC is an "offensive" league...whereas the MFVC and the CAA are more "defensive" leagues. It's really apples and oranges. And honestly, I really don't care how many yards a defense gives up. Many times this year (not always, mind you) we were giving up lots of yards when games were out of reach and our 2nd/3rd stringers were in the game.
The ebb and flow of a game many times dictates the final statistics, thus stats can't tell the whole story. It's all about wins and losses. That, and red zone efficiency (on both sides of the ball).

 

[PlayerRep]

Ty Gregorak proved himself this past season. Any head coach would be after a DC with that kind of record.

I still feel sorry for Jake Bleskin, but it was Gregorak who "read" that very good offense and simply hammered it. Prukop's blessing was that he got through the season without having to face that Defense, and if he had, I doubt the result would have been much different than the "Cat-astrophe" that it was.

I don't quite buy into that. We had the 39th ranked defense as far as YPG allowed nationally. At 359 yards allowed per game that would have ranked us 6th in the CAA, and 4th in the MVC. That's not good enough in my opinion. I'm not saying we had a bad defense, they came up in clutch situations and were good in the redzone. The d-line was great, secondary not so much. If we want to move beyond being content with an early playoff exit, then our defense needs to improve just as much as our offense from this past year. Gregorak still hasn't proved himself to me. The positive for me though is that his defenses seem to have improved every year since taking over as DC, for this reason I have hope that the trend will continue and he'll get our defense back to where it should be.

Apples to Oranges. The Big Sky had many of the top offenses in the nation. 5 of the top 12 in Total Offense. The CAA and MVC had 1 in the top 12, combined. JMU was 10th. The secondary did well in a passing conference. Gregorak has proved himself to me.

 

[G-BEARS]

Ty Gregorak proved himself this past season. Any head coach would be after a DC with that kind of record.

I still feel sorry for Jake Bleskin, but it was Gregorak who "read" that very good offense and simply hammered it. Prukop's blessing was that he got through the season without having to face that Defense, and if he had, I doubt the result would have been much different than the "Cat-astrophe" that it was.

I don't quite buy into that. We had the 39th ranked defense as far as YPG allowed nationally. At 359 yards allowed per game that would have ranked us 6th in the CAA, and 4th in the MVC. That's not good enough in my opinion. I'm not saying we had a bad defense, they came up in clutch situations and were good in the redzone. The d-line was great, secondary not so much. If we want to move beyond being content with an early playoff exit, then our defense needs to improve just as much as our offense from this past year. Gregorak still hasn't proved himself to me. The positive for me though is that his defenses seem to have improved every year since taking over as DC, for this reason I have hope that the trend will continue and he'll get our defense back to where it should be.

Keep in mind: The BSC is an "offensive" league...whereas the MFVC and the CAA are more "defensive" leagues. It's really apples and oranges. And honestly, I really don't care how many yards a defense gives up. Many times this year (not always, mind you) we were giving up lots of yards when games were out of reach and our 2nd/3rd stringers were in the game.
The ebb and flow of a game many times dictates the final statistics, thus stats can't tell the whole story. It's all about wins and losses. That, and red zone efficiency (on both sides of the ball).

I know what you're saying. I was just using those statistics as a general guide to what I've seen on the field. Of course other variables come into play and those stats don't "prove" anything. I don't know for a fact, but I would bet that over the last 4 years NDSU falls in the top 10 defenses regardless of playing backups at the end of games. Compare our recent defenses to the ones when we were making playoff runs in the 2000's . Big differences in the quality of players in the secondary, player execution, soft coverage, and in my opinion a lack of effective halftime adjustments. I like Gregorak, and love the fact that his defenses have improved each year. I have high hopes that this trend will continue. But I am not ready to declare him as a proven commodity yet.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Ty Gregorak proved himself this past season. Any head coach would be after a DC with that kind of record.

I still feel sorry for Jake Bleskin, but it was Gregorak who "read" that very good offense and simply hammered it. Prukop's blessing was that he got through the season without having to face that Defense, and if he had, I doubt the result would have been much different than the "Cat-astrophe" that it was.

I don't quite buy into that. We had the 39th ranked defense as far as YPG allowed nationally. At 359 yards allowed per game that would have ranked us 6th in the CAA, and 4th in the MVC. That's not good enough in my opinion. I'm not saying we had a bad defense, they came up in clutch situations and were good in the redzone. The d-line was great, secondary not so much. If we want to move beyond being content with an early playoff exit, then our defense needs to improve just as much as our offense from this past year. Gregorak still hasn't proved himself to me. The positive for me though is that his defenses seem to have improved every year since taking over as DC, for this reason I have hope that the trend will continue and he'll get our defense back to where it should be.

Apples to Oranges. The Big Sky had many of the top offenses in the nation. 5 of the top 12 in Total Offense. The CAA and MVC had 1 in the top 12, combined. JMU was 10th. The secondary did well in a passing conference. Gregorak has proved himself to me.

Ty Gregorak proved himself this past season. Any head coach would be after a DC with that kind of record.

I still feel sorry for Jake Bleskin, but it was Gregorak who "read" that very good offense and simply hammered it. Prukop's blessing was that he got through the season without having to face that Defense, and if he had, I doubt the result would have been much different than the "Cat-astrophe" that it was.

I don't quite buy into that. We had the 39th ranked defense as far as YPG allowed nationally. At 359 yards allowed per game that would have ranked us 6th in the CAA, and 4th in the MVC. That's not good enough in my opinion. I'm not saying we had a bad defense, they came up in clutch situations and were good in the redzone. The d-line was great, secondary not so much. If we want to move beyond being content with an early playoff exit, then our defense needs to improve just as much as our offense from this past year. Gregorak still hasn't proved himself to me. The positive for me though is that his defenses seem to have improved every year since taking over as DC, for this reason I have hope that the trend will continue and he'll get our defense back to where it should be.

Keep in mind: The BSC is an "offensive" league...whereas the MFVC and the CAA are more "defensive" leagues. It's really apples and oranges. And honestly, I really don't care how many yards a defense gives up. Many times this year (not always, mind you) we were giving up lots of yards when games were out of reach and our 2nd/3rd stringers were in the game.
The ebb and flow of a game many times dictates the final statistics, thus stats can't tell the whole story. It's all about wins and losses. That, and red zone efficiency (on both sides of the ball).

No plagerism, PR. :lol:

 

[mtgrizrule]

Ty Gregorak proved himself this past season. Any head coach would be after a DC with that kind of record.

I still feel sorry for Jake Bleskin, but it was Gregorak who "read" that very good offense and simply hammered it. Prukop's blessing was that he got through the season without having to face that Defense, and if he had, I doubt the result would have been much different than the "Cat-astrophe" that it was.

I don't quite buy into that. We had the 39th ranked defense as far as YPG allowed nationally. At 359 yards allowed per game that would have ranked us 6th in the CAA, and 4th in the MVC. That's not good enough in my opinion. I'm not saying we had a bad defense, they came up in clutch situations and were good in the redzone. The d-line was great, secondary not so much. If we want to move beyond being content with an early playoff exit, then our defense needs to improve just as much as our offense from this past year. Gregorak still hasn't proved himself to me. The positive for me though is that his defenses seem to have improved every year since taking over as DC, for this reason I have hope that the trend will continue and he'll get our defense back to where it should be.

Apples to Oranges. The Big Sky had many of the top offenses in the nation. 5 of the top 12 in Total Offense. The CAA and MVC had 1 in the top 12, combined. JMU was 10th. The secondary did well in a passing conference. Gregorak has proved himself to me.

+1......... I was pretty critical of his defense his 1st year. 2nd year liked the improvement. 3rd year, I said it was a make or break year with me as for him being the GRIZ DC. He passed with flying colors. I honestly like his future. :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

I do really like Gregorak as a DC...that being said I cannot stand spineless DCs who refuse to press with their corners....the easiest way to take a receiver out of the game is getting physical at the line with them..receivers haaaate that....make them work all game....a free release off the line is bullshit and should not be tolerated.

As a former cornerback, I don't agree. Press coverage is difficult and only a small percentage of college FCS corners are good enough to do it. It takes technique and strength, as well as speed. As a Cat poster once said, press coverage often turns into the watching the corner chase after the receiver who is running for a TD. Secondary coverage and defenses have to be adjusted to personnel. Not using alot of press coverage has nothing to do with spine. Some of you seem to think our corners should perform like NFL corners.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I do really like Gregorak as a DC...that being said I cannot stand spineless DCs who refuse to press with their corners....the easiest way to take a receiver out of the game is getting physical at the line with them..receivers haaaate that....make them work all game....a free release off the line is bullshit and should not be tolerated.

As a former cornerback, I don't agree. Press coverage is difficult and only a small percentage of college FCS corners are good enough to do it. It takes technique and strength, as well as speed. As a Cat poster once said, press coverage often turns into the watching the corner chase after the receiver who is running for a TD. Secondary coverage and defenses have to be adjusted to personnel. Not using alot of press coverage has nothing to do with spine. Some of you seem to think our corners should perform like NFL corners.

I just want to see a gradual improvement in variety of pass defenses. Especially more emphasis on nickel and dime packages against the likes of EWU, and better passing teams. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with TG's progress as DC.

 

[PlayerRep]

I do really like Gregorak as a DC...that being said I cannot stand spineless DCs who refuse to press with their corners....the easiest way to take a receiver out of the game is getting physical at the line with them..receivers haaaate that....make them work all game....a free release off the line is bullshit and should not be tolerated.

As a former cornerback, I don't agree. Press coverage is difficult and only a small percentage of college FCS corners are good enough to do it. It takes technique and strength, as well as speed. As a Cat poster once said, press coverage often turns into the watching the corner chase after the receiver who is running for a TD. Secondary coverage and defenses have to be adjusted to personnel. Not using alot of press coverage has nothing to do with spine. Some of you seem to think our corners should perform like NFL corners.

I just want to see a gradual improvement in variety of pass defenses. Especially more emphasis on nickel and dime packages against the likes of EWU, and better passing teams. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with TG's progress as DC.

I thought the D played alot of nickel. Kose went out. Also, against EWU in both games, UM played alot of 3 down lineman on long passing downs, put Gamboa in the middle backer area, and brought in extra pass defenders.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I do really like Gregorak as a DC...that being said I cannot stand spineless DCs who refuse to press with their corners....the easiest way to take a receiver out of the game is getting physical at the line with them..receivers haaaate that....make them work all game....a free release off the line is bullshit and should not be tolerated.

As a former cornerback, I don't agree. Press coverage is difficult and only a small percentage of college FCS corners are good enough to do it. It takes technique and strength, as well as speed. As a Cat poster once said, press coverage often turns into the watching the corner chase after the receiver who is running for a TD. Secondary coverage and defenses have to be adjusted to personnel. Not using alot of press coverage has nothing to do with spine. Some of you seem to think our corners should perform like NFL corners.

I just want to see a gradual improvement in variety of pass defenses. Especially more emphasis on nickel and dime packages against the likes of EWU, and better passing teams. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with TG's progress as DC.

I thought the D played alot of nickel. Kose went out. Also, against EWU in both games, UM played alot of 3 down lineman on long passing downs, put Gamboa in the middle backer area, and brought in extra pass defenders.

And most of the time all that allowed was for Adams to pick apart the defense because we could rarely get pressure with 3 down linemen.

 

[PlayerRep]

As a former cornerback, I don't agree. Press coverage is difficult and only a small percentage of college FCS corners are good enough to do it. It takes technique and strength, as well as speed. As a Cat poster once said, press coverage often turns into the watching the corner chase after the receiver who is running for a TD. Secondary coverage and defenses have to be adjusted to personnel. Not using alot of press coverage has nothing to do with spine. Some of you seem to think our corners should perform like NFL corners.

I just want to see a gradual improvement in variety of pass defenses. Especially more emphasis on nickel and dime packages against the likes of EWU, and better passing teams. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with TG's progress as DC.

I thought the D played alot of nickel. Kose went out. Also, against EWU in both games, UM played alot of 3 down lineman on long passing downs, put Gamboa in the middle backer area, and brought in extra pass defenders.

And most of the time all that allowed was for Adams to pick apart the defense because we could rarely get pressure with 3 down linemen.

Not necessarily true. Some of the sacks came from this defense, by Gamboa in the first game and by the d-ends a few times. EWU torched us in the first game, especially with the 4 longer TD passes, but got only 182 passing yards in the second game. Adams was sacked 5 times in each game.

 

[George Ferguson]

I thought the Griz' defensive scheme was about as good as anyone could do against Eastern, especially in the second game. I know a lot of Egrizzers ALWAYS ONLY want to pin it on the coaches and their schemes, but I'm sorry to tell those people, Ty's schemes were just fine. Eastern has better players. PERIOD. Give VA some credit, give Kupp some credit. Kendrick Bourne is like a No. 4 receiver for EWU and he is a better athlete than anyone in Montana's secondary. In fact, the Griz recruited him out of high school HARD. The Griz wanted him really bad. I hate EWU ALOT, but I can also recognize and acknowledge talent, and EWU has boat loads of it on the offensive side of the ball, and that made wayyyyyyyyyyy more of a difference in the two games the Griz played against them then Ty's decisions from the sidelines.

 

[grizfan47]

I thought the Griz' defensive scheme was about as good as anyone could do against Eastern, especially in the second game. I know a lot of Egrizzers ALWAYS ONLY want to pin it on the coaches and their schemes, but I'm sorry to tell those people, Ty's schemes were just fine. Eastern has better players. PERIOD. Give VA some credit, give Kupp some credit. Kendrick Bourne is like a No. 4 receiver for EWU and he is a better athlete than anyone in Montana's secondary. In fact, the Griz recruited him out of high school HARD. The Griz wanted him really bad. I hate EWU ALOT, but I can also recognize and acknowledge talent, and EWU has boat loads of it on the offensive side of the ball, and that made wayyyyyyyyyyy more of a difference in the two games the Griz played against them then Ty's decisions from the sidelines.

:thumb: Agree!