If this is true, then clearly you're not bright enough to understand the rest of his posts.
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We don't care. Go away. You have been given 1000x the latitude that any Griz fan would be given on bobcat Nation.
garizzalies
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Just more BS. You were making shit up and wrong, as always.
So can you not post a pic? You avoided that and changed the subject. I don’t think you are smart enough to know how to post pics.
I keep hearing bub fans talk about how much more difficult their noncon schedule is. Why? Because they play an FBS?? New Mexico is perhaps the worst fbs team in the country. UND is better. Then the bubs don't play anyone half way decent, while the GRIZ play a ranked opponent, and one who would be ranked but they're ineligible as they're moving to the FBS
One team's noncon is definitely more difficult. But it sure ain't the bubs'
One team's noncon is definitely more difficult. But it sure ain't the bubs'
The notion that the Griz have a super easy schedule this year is mostly nonsense. Griz play 5 ranked FCS opponents, Cats play 4 ranked FCS opponents and UNM. Not very different.
mthoopsfan
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Missouri Valley would be ranked too if they weren’t transitioning to fbs.
Most of that notion comes from the fact that we don’t play Sac State and Idaho and we get Weber, NAU and Davis at home and we get all the bottom dwellers PSU, Cal Poly and UNC. That’s not taking into account Davis will likely be better than Sac and that we have never won on the red rug in Cheney. Our non conference isn’t a breeze either with our poor history at the Alaris center and UND ranked, as well as a WCU team on the rise and ranked. We definitely have a tougher non con than MSC, and the game that will likely determine the conference crown will be played at the litter box, where the road team hasn’t won in 6 years and they made a documentary about it the last time it happened (silly bobcats).
That being said. If this team has national title aspirations, they should rise to the challenges of that schedule and be fighting for a conference title and a top seed in late November. Health will be imperative, but we finally have the depth across the roster to sustain blows that we couldn’t in 2019-2022. Still pisses me off that we had to burn Juniors redshirt to play him at rb and save the season his freshman year due to all the injuries in the backfield, but that will always be part of the lore of his career here.
mthoopsfan
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Good summary. I am with you on this.
Missouri State.
Monymony
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Gris have a tougher non-conference but the gris actually have a the easiest schedule in conference play based on pre-season polls. FCS playoff committee has shown that they put massive emphasis on SOS and an FBS win would be very beneficial. SDSU, NDSU, MSU, and SD all have FBS games but really only NDSU and MSU have good chances at winning- this could have big implications come playoff seeding depending on how the season goes. I’d say UNM is comparable to a top 10 FCS team and definitely will be a good game. If the gris weren’t playing Missouri St and WCU in Missoula those games would be close but I think the noise will be too much for those teams. UND game should be fairly easy as UND lost TONS of people and I don’t see the gris losing at home against decent teams, unless the center/qb have serious problems but I doubt that will happen.
mthoopsfan
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Wrong. First, the playoff committee doesn't put massive emphasis on either SOS and certainly not on FBS wins. SOS is important, but not massive. Wins are more important. I've talked to committee members about these things, and also read their interviews. New Mexico was 144thi in the Sagarin last year. Behind 25 FCS schools. Behind Missouri St. Behind half of the Big Sky teams, including NAU and Weber. NM isn't comparable to a top10 FCS team. Last year, they wouldn't have been in the top 25.
How can you know so little about football and say so many stupid things?
You are right, though. A Cat loss to NM will hurt the Cats.
Monymony
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Of course record is important but SOS is an important factor for picking between teams that are close. How do you think the cats got a 4 seed with 3 losses? SOS… everyone mentioned last year that SOS is more important than it used to be for seeding. UNM brought in a good coach and TONS of transfers… they will be better and we play them away which adds another element. I’d be careful referring to Saragin as they ranked the cats above the gris last season… does that mean our worst season in 3 years is still better than the gris’ best in 15??
garizzalies
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Got a link or can you show your work, or are you just msu-ing again?
You make so much shit up and have no credibility that I don’t believe a word you say
Monymony
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“Something that I look at going into each season is the strength of conference schedule. For a couple of years I have used the pre season media poll to assign values to conference opponents. I then take each team's conference schedule, adding the pre season rankings to get a final sum.
2024 Preseason Media Poll for Big Sky: 1 UM, 2 MSU, 3 IU, 4 UCD, 5 SAC, 6 EWU, 7 WEB, 8 ISU, 9 NAU, 10 PSU, 11 CP, 12 UNC
For example: MSU plays ISU, NCU, IU, PSU, EWU, SAC, UCD, UM. 8+12+3+10+6+5+4+1=49
The higher the score the easier the conference slate. The lower the score the harder the conference slate.
Here are the totals for the strength of schedule:
Um 60, 59 WEB, 57 IU, 57 SAC, 53 NAU, 53 ISU, 50 UCD, 50 UNC, 49 MSU, 49 CP, 44 EWU, 42 PSU.
By my algorithm, the Griz have the easiest conference schedule and the Portland State has the toughest. Note, I did not factor home or away.”
Done by CelticCat on BN.
mthoopsfan
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Okay, but that’s not SOS or anything close. Algorithm. Ha. I assume actual SOS will have Griz about same or tougher than Cats.
Monymony
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Ok? It proves the gris have the easiest conference schedule… also doesn’t factor in home field advantage that would make the gris have an even easier schedule
garizzalies
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No, it doesn’t prove shit.
An algorithm that does not consider home vs road games from some anonymous BM guy based on a pre-season media pole?!?
All it proves is how desperate you are.
Monymony
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If it factored in home field advantage it would put you guys further into easiest schedule. Idaho, MSU, and UM are the only 3 that have real home field advantages. It’s fairly accurate too as PSU has the hardest schedule in probably all of FCS.
Anyone who suggests that New Mexico is comparable to a top 10 fcs team immediately loses any and all credibility. Not that he had much to begin with.
That idea is simply laughable.
That idea is simply laughable.
mthoopsfan
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Where is it said that home-away is factored into strength of schedule? NAU has some home field advantage. So does EWU. SS? Weber? Apparently not MSU, as they couldn’t beat a unseeded team in Bozeman.
