STATS FCS Poll, Oct 30 ( Griz #04)

[Blgs Griz Fan]

Idaho fans going to the mat for their resume and how it's better than ours, despite the head to head loss. It's really not worth the argument at this point, if the season ended on Saturday this last week then I suppose it's well worth the debate.

However, when it's all said and done, if Montana & Idaho win out, Montana hold the tie breaker. Griz control their destiny while Idaho, nor MSU do anymore.

Idaho has played more top 10 teams to-date, but that's going to even up as Montana faces two of them in the next 3 weeks.

"that's going to even up as Montana faces two of them in the next 3 weeks."
That's true as long as the bobcats stay in the top ten and that may not be the case.

 

[GrizLA]

Griz did move up what I expected. After that, the pollsters went absolutely crazy (for them). They jumped Idaho way more than I expected (to #3), although they dropped Montana State about what I did expect. Then, for reasons that escape me, they slid Furman in at #2 ( WTF!). At least I got the South Dakota drop right.

Rank, Team (Record), Points, {First-place votes} [Previous Rank]
1. South Dakota State (8-0), 1,400 points {56} [1]
2. Furman (7-1), 1,278 [3]
3. Idaho (6-2), 1,218 [9]
4. Montana (7-1), 1,190 [7]
5. Delaware (7-1), 1,171 [5]
6. Montana State (6-2), 1,150 [2]
7. Sacramento State (6-2), 1,074 [6]
8. UIW (7-1), 980 [8]
9. South Dakota (6-2), 964 [4]
10. Southern Illinois (6-2), 862 [11]
11. North Dakota State (6-2), 815 [12]
12. North Carolina Central (7-1), 751 [13]
13. North Dakota (5-3), 648 [15]
14. Chattanooga (7-2), 578 [17]
15. Florida A&M (7-1), 576 [16]
16. Western Carolina (5-3), 516 [10]
17. Villanova (6-2), 471 [19]
18. Northern Iowa (5-3), 389 [23]
19. Austin Peay (6-2), 387 [20]
20. Lafayette (7-1), 354 [21]
21. UT Martin (6-2), 314 [14]
22. Youngstown State (5-3), 269 [24]
23. UAlbany (6-3), 249 [NR]
24. William & Mary (5-3), 184 [22]
25. Mercer (6-3), 103 [NR]

Dropped Out: Central Arkansas (18), UC Davis (25)

Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Central Arkansas (5-3) 94; Harvard (6-1) 80; Holy Cross (5-3) 48; Tennessee State (6-2) 48; Tarleton (6-3) 14; Richmond (6-3) 13; Gardner-Webb (4-4) 5; UC Davis (4-4) 3

Link to Haley article:
https://theanalyst.com/na/2023/10/s...-fcs-top-25-head-to-head-matchups-this-week/

This year's championship will be Furman's to lose. They are terrific. Well coached and solid backs and qb. I have seen them three times, now, against fair competition, they are no joke.

 

[BWahlberg]

Idaho fans going to the mat for their resume and how it's better than ours, despite the head to head loss. It's really not worth the argument at this point, if the season ended on Saturday this last week then I suppose it's well worth the debate.

However, when it's all said and done, if Montana & Idaho win out, Montana hold the tie breaker. Griz control their destiny while Idaho, nor MSU do anymore.

Idaho has played more top 10 teams to-date, but that's going to even up as Montana faces two of them in the next 3 weeks.

"that's going to even up as Montana faces two of them in the next 3 weeks."
That's true as long as the bobcats stay in the top ten and that may not be the case.

They have NAU and EWU at home, they're going to crush both of them.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Griz did move up what I expected. After that, the pollsters went absolutely crazy (for them). They jumped Idaho way more than I expected (to #3), although they dropped Montana State about what I did expect. Then, for reasons that escape me, they slid Furman in at #2 ( WTF!). At least I got the South Dakota drop right.

Rank, Team (Record), Points, {First-place votes} [Previous Rank]
1. South Dakota State (8-0), 1,400 points {56} [1]
2. Furman (7-1), 1,278 [3]
3. Idaho (6-2), 1,218 [9]
4. Montana (7-1), 1,190 [7]
5. Delaware (7-1), 1,171 [5]
6. Montana State (6-2), 1,150 [2]
7. Sacramento State (6-2), 1,074 [6]
8. UIW (7-1), 980 [8]
9. South Dakota (6-2), 964 [4]
10. Southern Illinois (6-2), 862 [11]
11. North Dakota State (6-2), 815 [12]
12. North Carolina Central (7-1), 751 [13]
13. North Dakota (5-3), 648 [15]
14. Chattanooga (7-2), 578 [17]
15. Florida A&M (7-1), 576 [16]
16. Western Carolina (5-3), 516 [10]
17. Villanova (6-2), 471 [19]
18. Northern Iowa (5-3), 389 [23]
19. Austin Peay (6-2), 387 [20]
20. Lafayette (7-1), 354 [21]
21. UT Martin (6-2), 314 [14]
22. Youngstown State (5-3), 269 [24]
23. UAlbany (6-3), 249 [NR]
24. William & Mary (5-3), 184 [22]
25. Mercer (6-3), 103 [NR]

Dropped Out: Central Arkansas (18), UC Davis (25)

Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Central Arkansas (5-3) 94; Harvard (6-1) 80; Holy Cross (5-3) 48; Tennessee State (6-2) 48; Tarleton (6-3) 14; Richmond (6-3) 13; Gardner-Webb (4-4) 5; UC Davis (4-4) 3

Link to Haley article:
https://theanalyst.com/na/2023/10/s...-fcs-top-25-head-to-head-matchups-this-week/

This year's championship will be Furman's to lose. They are terrific. Well coached and solid backs and qb. I have seen them three times, now, against fair competition, they are no joke.

That is quite the statement. I predict they won’t be in the semi’s.

 

[uofmman1122]

This year's championship will be Furman's to lose. They are terrific. Well coached and solid backs and qb. I have seen them three times, now, against fair competition, they are no joke.

That is quite the statement. I predict they won’t be in the semi’s.

It highly depends on their draw in the bracket (anything goes on the east coast, they could get like 5 or 6 of the weakest teams in their path because regionalization lol), but I agree, I think they're incredibly overrated.

 

[behappp]

Hero sports prediction.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2023-playoff-predictions-3-bzbz/

"Seeds
These are playoff predictions and don’t reflect my current Top 25. The numbers associated with teams may not match where I currently rank them on my ballot.

1. South Dakota State
2. Idaho
3. Montana State
4. Furman
5. Montana
6. Delaware
7. Sacramento State
8. Southern Illinois "

 

[AZGrizFan]

Hero sports prediction.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2023-playoff-predictions-3-bzbz/

"Seeds
These are playoff predictions and don’t reflect my current Top 25. The numbers associated with teams may not match where I currently rank them on my ballot.

1. South Dakota State
2. Idaho
3. Montana State
4. Furman
5. Montana
6. Delaware
7. Sacramento State
8. Southern Illinois "

That would imply he believes the Griz beat Sac State and PSU but lose to the ‘Scats.

 

[EverettGriz]

Hero sports prediction.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2023-playoff-predictions-3-bzbz/

"Seeds
These are playoff predictions and don’t reflect my current Top 25. The numbers associated with teams may not match where I currently rank them on my ballot.

1. South Dakota State
2. Idaho
3. Montana State
4. Furman
5. Montana
6. Delaware
7. Sacramento State
8. Southern Illinois "

Insert Montana into the two seed after 3 straight wins. Southern Illinois and Furman coming to Missoula for a trip to Frisco?


Yes please!!

 

[ilovethecats]

Idaho fans going to the mat for their resume and how it's better than ours, despite the head to head loss. It's really not worth the argument at this point, if the season ended on Saturday this last week then I suppose it's well worth the debate.

However, when it's all said and done, if Montana & Idaho win out, Montana hold the tie breaker. Griz control their destiny while Idaho, nor MSU do anymore.

Idaho has played more top 10 teams to-date, but that's going to even up as Montana faces two of them in the next 3 weeks.

"that's going to even up as Montana faces two of them in the next 3 weeks."
That's true as long as the bobcats stay in the top ten and that may not be the case.

:lol:

 

[ilovethecats]

Griz did move up what I expected. After that, the pollsters went absolutely crazy (for them). They jumped Idaho way more than I expected (to #3), although they dropped Montana State about what I did expect. Then, for reasons that escape me, they slid Furman in at #2 ( WTF!). At least I got the South Dakota drop right.

Rank, Team (Record), Points, {First-place votes} [Previous Rank]
1. South Dakota State (8-0), 1,400 points {56} [1]
2. Furman (7-1), 1,278 [3]
3. Idaho (6-2), 1,218 [9]
4. Montana (7-1), 1,190 [7]
5. Delaware (7-1), 1,171 [5]
6. Montana State (6-2), 1,150 [2]
7. Sacramento State (6-2), 1,074 [6]
8. UIW (7-1), 980 [8]
9. South Dakota (6-2), 964 [4]
10. Southern Illinois (6-2), 862 [11]
11. North Dakota State (6-2), 815 [12]
12. North Carolina Central (7-1), 751 [13]
13. North Dakota (5-3), 648 [15]
14. Chattanooga (7-2), 578 [17]
15. Florida A&M (7-1), 576 [16]
16. Western Carolina (5-3), 516 [10]
17. Villanova (6-2), 471 [19]
18. Northern Iowa (5-3), 389 [23]
19. Austin Peay (6-2), 387 [20]
20. Lafayette (7-1), 354 [21]
21. UT Martin (6-2), 314 [14]
22. Youngstown State (5-3), 269 [24]
23. UAlbany (6-3), 249 [NR]
24. William & Mary (5-3), 184 [22]
25. Mercer (6-3), 103 [NR]

Dropped Out: Central Arkansas (18), UC Davis (25)

Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Central Arkansas (5-3) 94; Harvard (6-1) 80; Holy Cross (5-3) 48; Tennessee State (6-2) 48; Tarleton (6-3) 14; Richmond (6-3) 13; Gardner-Webb (4-4) 5; UC Davis (4-4) 3

Link to Haley article:
https://theanalyst.com/na/2023/10/s...-fcs-top-25-head-to-head-matchups-this-week/

This year's championship will be Furman's to lose. They are terrific. Well coached and solid backs and qb. I have seen them three times, now, against fair competition, they are no joke.

My goodness.

The griz would beat Furman by 20. Hell, Idaho and MSU would too. I’m not trying to be a dick here, but if Furman was in the BSC they wouldn’t finish in the top five.

 

[GrizLA]

This year's championship will be Furman's to lose. They are terrific. Well coached and solid backs and qb. I have seen them three times, now, against fair competition, they are no joke.

My goodness.

The griz would beat Furman by 20. Hell, Idaho and MSU would too. I’m not trying to be a dick here, but if Furman was in the BSC they wouldn’t finish in the top five.

UM doesn't do so well against South Carolina teams...but, I hope you are right. Furman is really good. Time will tell but I would not count them out of the title game, right now. I'd like to see this weeks game but turkey hunting is good.

 

[kemajic]

My goodness.

The griz would beat Furman by 20. Hell, Idaho and MSU would too. I’m not trying to be a dick here, but if Furman was in the BSC they wouldn’t finish in the top five.

UM doesn't do so well against South Carolina teams...but, I hope you are right. Furman is really good. Time will tell but I would not count them out of the title game, right now. I'd like to see this weeks game but turkey hunting is good.

The Griz beat Furman for the 2001 NC. Furman was never really in the game.

 

[behappp]

Hero sports prediction.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2023-playoff-predictions-3-bzbz/

"Seeds
These are playoff predictions and don’t reflect my current Top 25. The numbers associated with teams may not match where I currently rank them on my ballot.

1. South Dakota State
2. Idaho
3. Montana State
4. Furman
5. Montana
6. Delaware
7. Sacramento State
8. Southern Illinois "

Insert Montana into the two seed after 3 straight wins. Southern Illinois and Furman coming to Missoula for a trip to Frisco?


Yes please!!

100% correct

 

[ilovethecats]

My goodness.

The griz would beat Furman by 20. Hell, Idaho and MSU would too. I’m not trying to be a dick here, but if Furman was in the BSC they wouldn’t finish in the top five.

UM doesn't do so well against South Carolina teams...but, I hope you are right. Furman is really good. Time will tell but I would not count them out of the title game, right now. I'd like to see this weeks game but turkey hunting is good.

I’m of the belief that stats like how the griz played against teams from a specific state in the past makes no difference.

I won’t pretend I’ve watched Furman a lot. Probably two halves total this season. But I’ve watched the Big Sky. The Big Sky is tough. I’d like to see it play out but my opinion is if Furman comes to Missoula or Bozeman, they go home after about a 3 td loss.

 

[AZGrizFan]

They’re the W&M of last year.

 

[indiancoyote]

UM doesn't do so well against South Carolina teams...but, I hope you are right. Furman is really good. Time will tell but I would not count them out of the title game, right now. I'd like to see this weeks game but turkey hunting is good.

The Griz beat Furman for the 2001 NC. Furman was never really in the game.

Furman was never in the game? :lol:

 

[IdaGriz01]

The Griz beat Furman for the 2001 NC. Furman was never really in the game.

Furman was never in the game? :lol:

Nope. While the final score (13-6) made it look close, the Paladins never really mustered much of a threat. In fact, their only score was with no time left on the clock ... by rule, the refs didn't even allow them to try the PAT.