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STATS FCS Poll Guesses (Oct 3)

IdaGriz01

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Of course, four ranked teams were going to lose, being matched against other ranked teams. The pollsters, as a general rule, do not punish the losers too much in such cases … unless they get thumped. But besides those losses, we had two other ranked teams lose to unranked opponents. So we can expect to see a number of changes, but nothing really dramatic.

Poll
Guess, Team (Record), [Current Rank]
#1 SHSU (4-0) [1]
#2 South Dakota State (4-0) [2]
#3 JMU (4-0) [3]
#4 NDSU (4-0) [5]
#5 EWU (5-0) [6]
#6 Southern Illinois (4-1) [7]
#7 UC Davis (5-0) [8]
#8 Montana (3-1) [4]
#9 Delaware (3-1) [9]
#10 Montana State (4-1) [11]
#11 Villanova (3-1) [12]
#12 East Tennessee State (5-0) [13]
#13 North Dakota (2-2) [10]
#14 SE Louisiana (3-1) [14]
#15 Northern Iowa (3-1) [15]
#16 Missouri State (3-1) [16]
#17 Weber State (2-3) [19]
#18 Kennesaw State (3-1) [20]
#19 Rhode Island (4-0) [21]
#20 UT Martin (3-1) [23]
#21 Incarnate Word (4-1) [24]
#22 Jacksonville State (2-3) [17]
#23 VMI (3-2) [18]
#24 Central Arkansas (2-3) NR
#25 Monmouth (3-2) NR

NR Richmond (2-3) [22]
NR New Hampshire (3-2) [25]

The Griz-Eagle matchup was competitive enough that I do not see UM dropping a lot. In fact, I considered a drop only to #7. But that would have put them ahead of teams with undefeated FCS records (SIU’s only loss was to FBS Kansas State). They might slip one more, but I do not see them dropping out of the top-10.

Along those lines, I dropped North Dakota only three spots because they played a much higher ranked opponent and the game was close all the way. However, since they were at home, a drop to #14 would not surprise me.

I think the pollsters will not be so kind to Jacksonville State, which lost by over three touchdowns. Yes, they lost to a ranked team, but it’s their second loss in a row. I could easily see them dropping one or two more spots, although I’d be surprised if they dropped out of the top-25.

I expect the pollsters to drop VMI at least five spots after their loss to an unranked and basically mediocre Citadel (2-2) team. In fact, it would not surprise me to see them go down one or two more spots, although not all the way out of the top-25.

Now it gets a bit problematic. By my standard formula, Richmond most likely will drop out of the top-25 because they lost decisively at home to a not-very-good Elon (2-3) team. New Hampshire should also drop out, although they had a very close loss at home to the best team in the CAA. However, even that isn’t usually enough when a team is in the tail-end spot of the top-25. My wife did remind me that I’ve been burned before by a CAA (east coast) bias among the pollsters. Still, I’m sticking with those guesses … but won’t be shocked if one, or both, is/are wrong.

That left me to decide who might replace the two drop-outs. That problem was compounded by the fact that the top four “Other” vote-getters in the last poll all lost. Luckily, the next two – Monmouth and Central Arkansas – both won. They also had a bit extra going for them … both have been ranked in earlier polls. In my experience, the pollsters seem to favor that: “See, they’re really good teams that just had a bad game along the way.”
 
IdaGriz01 said:
Of course, four ranked teams were going to lose, being matched against other ranked teams. The pollsters, as a general rule, do not punish the losers too much in such cases … unless they get thumped. But besides those losses, we had two other ranked teams lose to unranked opponents. So we can expect to see a number of changes, but nothing really dramatic.

Poll
Guess, Team (Record), [Current Rank]
#1 SHSU (4-0) [1]
#2 South Dakota State (4-0) [2]
#3 JMU (4-0) [3]
#4 NDSU (4-0) [5]
#5 EWU (5-0) [6]
#6 Southern Illinois (4-1) [7]
#7 UC Davis (5-0) [8]
#8 Montana (3-1) [4]
#9 Delaware (3-1) [9]
#10 Montana State (4-1) [11]
#11 Villanova (3-1) [12]
#12 East Tennessee State (5-0) [13]
#13 North Dakota (2-2) [10]
#14 SE Louisiana (3-1) [14]
#15 Northern Iowa (3-1) [15]
#16 Missouri State (3-1) [16]
#17 Weber State (2-3) [19]
#18 Kennesaw State (3-1) [20]
#19 Rhode Island (4-0) [21]
#20 UT Martin (3-1) [23]
#21 Incarnate Word (4-1) [24]
#22 Jacksonville State (2-3) [17]
#23 VMI (3-2) [18]
#24 Central Arkansas (2-3) NR
#25 Monmouth (3-2) NR

NR Richmond (2-3) [22]
NR New Hampshire (3-2) [25]

The Griz-Eagle matchup was competitive enough that I do not see UM dropping a lot. In fact, I considered a drop only to #7. But that would have put them ahead of teams with undefeated FCS records (SIU’s only loss was to FBS Kansas State). They might slip one more, but I do not see them dropping out of the top-10.

Along those lines, I dropped North Dakota only three spots because they played a much higher ranked opponent and the game was close all the way. However, since they were at home, a drop to #14 would not surprise me.

I think the pollsters will not be so kind to Jacksonville State, which lost by over three touchdowns. Yes, they lost to a ranked team, but it’s their second loss in a row. I could easily see them dropping one or two more spots, although I’d be surprised if they dropped out of the top-25.

I expect the pollsters to drop VMI at least five spots after their loss to an unranked and basically mediocre Citadel (2-2) team. In fact, it would not surprise me to see them go down one or two more spots, although not all the way out of the top-25.

Now it gets a bit problematic. By my standard formula, Richmond most likely will drop out of the top-25 because they lost decisively at home to a not-very-good Elon (2-3) team. New Hampshire should also drop out, although they had a very close loss at home to the best team in the CAA. However, even that isn’t usually enough when a team is in the tail-end spot of the top-25. My wife did remind me that I’ve been burned before by a CAA (east coast) bias among the pollsters. Still, I’m sticking with those guesses … but won’t be shocked if one, or both, is/are wrong.

That left me to decide who might replace the two drop-outs. That problem was compounded by the fact that the top four “Other” vote-getters in the last poll all lost. Luckily, the next two – Monmouth and Central Arkansas – both won. They also had a bit extra going for them … both have been ranked in earlier polls. In my experience, the pollsters seem to favor that: “See, they’re really good teams that just had a bad game along the way.”

I watched both you and EWU and UC Davis/Idaho. Idaho was the better team and would have won if they had a head coach. UC Davis was not impressive. UM should stay ranked higher IMO.
 
By your reasoning cats would be higher, yes there FCS opponents have been bottom dwellers but they are undefeated in FCS play
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
I think we stay ahead of Davis. But everything else looks about right to me.
UCD certainly offered an underwhelming performance at home against pitiful Idaho. So I can easily see the GRiz dropping only to #7. It'll be interesting to see tomorrow.
 
I would love to see the pollsters give SFA some love...yes they were unranked but they barely lost to SHSU who is the #1 team.
 
fltheadgriz said:
I would love to see the pollsters give SFA some love...yes they were unranked but they barely lost to SHSU who is the #1 team.
They do indeed seem to be a solid contender ... including hanging within 6 of Texas Tech. They were actually ahead at half time and outscored the Red Raiders in the 4th quarter. (The 14-0 TTU third quarter was the difference.) And, of course, losing by just 1 point to the #1 FCS team.

Unfortunately, I can't recall a time when the pollsters moved a losing team up into the top-25. Maybe we'll see an exception tomorrow.
 
retiredpopo said:
looks about right but I think UNI makes a jump up to at least 12.
Interesting thought. Coincidentally, my wife and I just had a discussion along those lines. Very seldom do teams move up over teams that have won ... they move up because a loss above them leaves a gap. But over the years, UNI has been one of the rare exceptions to that observation.

I could easily see them jump North Dakota, if it goes down one more spot, below SE Louisiana. And they could then slide up over SELA because SELA won by only a FG at unranked McNeese. But then they'd have to bump ETSU, which had a solid win over Wofford. I think that's a stretch.
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I watched every top 10 team yesterday:

From What I saw

South Dakota State
EWU
Montana

are the top 3 teams, based off of yesterday.
 
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