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STATS FCS Poll Guesses (Oct 23)

IdaGriz01

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With five ranked-vs-ranked matchups on Saturday, there had to be that many ranked teams losing. Throw in the money game at Tennessee and you get to six. Beyond those, one ranked team lost to an unranked opponent. Still, I’m guessing that no currently ranked team will drop out of the top-25. But the pot will certainly get stirred.

Poll Guess, Team (Record), [Current Rank]
#1 SDSU (7-1) [1]
#2 Sac State (7-0) [2]
#3 Montana State (7-1) [3]
#4 North Dakota State (5-2) [4]
#5 Holy Cross (7-0) [6]
#6 Incarnate Word (7-1) [8]
#7 Jackson State (7-0) [9]
#8 Weber State (6-1) [5]
#9 Chattanooga (6-1) [10]
#10 Montana (5-2) [7]
#11 William & Mary (6-1) [12]
#12 Delaware (6-1) [13]
#13 Samford (6-1) [15]
#14 SE Missouri State (6-1) [16]
#15 Idaho (5-2) [17]
#16 Mercer (6-2) [11]
#17 Richmond (5-2) [19]
#18 UT Martin (4-3) [18]
#19 Rhode Island (5-2) [22]
#20 Fordham (6-1) [23]
#21 Austin Peay (5-2) [24]
#22 Southern Illinois (5-3) [14]
#23 New Hampshire (6-2) [25]
#24 North Dakota (4-3) [20]
#25 Elon (5-3) [21]

We’ll start with Weber State. The pollsters generally go fairly easy when a ranked team loses on the road to a higher-ranked team. A drop of three or four spots has been normal, unless something strange has happened. Well, that was definitely an odd, ugly game. I’ve guessed that the pollsters will drop the Weebs four spots, but I could easily see them going down a couple more.

Of course, for us, the number one question is: How far will UM fall? I’ve read a few of the comments on eGriz. For those who say the Griz barely deserve to be ranked (or worse), I say: “You need to get out more.” You think the top-25 is filled with teams that have no flaws and always play perfectly? No … and I’ll just leave it at that.
The Griz lost on the road to the #2 team in the FCS … in overtime. Unless the pollsters deviate from their “normal” reaction, the Griz should not drop more than four spots. Because it was an OT loss, I’m guessing three down … staying barely in the top-10.

The next to go down was #11 Mercer, which lost at #10 Chattanooga. I’m guessing the pollsters will nudge them down an “extra” spot because the Mocs’ dominated the Bears, zooming out to a 17 point lead in the first quarter. The final was 41-21. That’s bad enough that a drop of a couple more spots would not surprise me at all.

Southern Illinois was the one ranked team that lost to an unranked FCS opponent. Even with that loss, the Salukis are still tied for second in the MVFC. However, they did not lose to just any unranked opponent. They lost to a South Dakota team that had won only one game this season. (And that one win was over pitiful Cal Poly.) I suspect the pollsters will hammer them down pretty bad.

I’m calling the UT Martin loss a wash since Tennessee is ranked #3 in the FBS. In fact, with Southern Illinois dropping so far, it’s not impossible that the Skyhawks could move up a spot.

Next up (down actually :) ) was #20 North Dakota, which lost to #1 SDSU. The Hawks held their own for awhile and even led at the half. But the Jacks blew it open in the third quarter. With my usual expectations, the pollsters might only drop them to #23. I went with #24 because that (4-3) record looks out of place. In fact, it’s not out of the question that the pollsters could drop the Hawks out of the top-25, just because of that record.

That gets us to #21 Elon, which lost to #25 New Hampshire. This one has me worried a bit, mainly because the Phoenix were never really in this game. They fell behind 23-7 in the first half and lost more ground in the second (final was 40-22). I’m going with the usual “down four spots,” but could easily see them dropping out of the top-25. That would likely open a spot for Villanova to move in.

At this point in the season, with most teams having played seven (or even eight) games, my “historical” rules of thumb seem to work better and better. Thus, if the pollsters choose to go away from their usual behavior, I’m going to have egg all over my face. Oh well, that’s why I use a generous dose of weasel words. :lol:
 
RayWill said:
I actually think you will see Idaho around 10 and MT around 15
First, I do not see the pollsters dropping the Griz eight spots for a loss to the #2 team on the road and in overtime. Not say it won't happen, but I find it highly unlikely.

On your first point: I'd love to see the pollsters finally wake up to the fact that Idaho is a pretty damn good team. They are, after all, undefeated in FCS play. I'm not sure they would move the Spuds ahead of Delaware, but a jump ahead of Samford and SEMO seems at least possible.
 
The National Champion will come from one of these teams
SDSU (7-1) Lost to FBS Iowa
Sac State (7-0)
Montana State (7-1) Lost to FBS Oregon State
North Dakota State (5-2) Lost to SD State and FBS Arizona
Weber State (6-1) Lost to kittens
Montana (5-2) Lost to Idaho and Sac State
Idaho (5-2) Lost to 2 FBS Schools

All the rest don't have what it takes. Yes I've watched them all and Holy Cross, Jackson State and Chattanooga are not in the same class.
 
Paytonlives said:
The National Champion will come from one of these teams
SDSU (7-1) Lost to FBS Iowa
Sac State (7-0)
Montana State (7-1) Lost to FBS Oregon State
North Dakota State (5-2) Lost to SD State and FBS Arizona
Weber State (6-1) Lost to kittens
Montana (5-2) Lost to Idaho and Sac State
Idaho (5-2) Lost to 2 FBS Schools

All the rest don't have what it takes. Yes I've watched them all and Holy Cross, Jackson State and Chattanooga are not in the same class.
Not bad. Have to agree on Holy Cross and Jackson State, with a slight disagreement on the Mocs, whose only loss was to FBS Illinois.. They’ve looked pretty good at times, but maybe we just saw their good side.

Conspicuous by their absence is any team from the CAA … which I also agree with. UNH (the current leader) is too inconsistent, while W&M and Delaware have mostly feasted on cupcakes.
 
I know this will sound dumb, and God I hope I'm wrong...but with Jackson State hosting College Gameday, I'd bet they jump Incarnate Word. The love for that program is unbelievable. I also think Chatty jumps Weber, pretty impressive win for them. I'm with Payton about a limited number of teams chipper-worthy, but pollsters still love parity. I think W&M jump Griz and we're #11
 
#15 Fan said:
I know this will sound dumb, and God I hope I'm wrong...but with Jackson State hosting College Gameday, I'd bet they jump Incarnate Word. The love for that program is unbelievable. I also think Chatty jumps Weber, pretty impressive win for them. I'm with Payton about a limited number of teams chipper-worthy, but pollsters still love parity. I think W&M jump Griz and we're #11
A fascinating summation, and one I can't really disagree with.

The fact that Jackson State has played no one of any consequence seems to mean nothing to the pollsters. The combined records of their opponents is 19-31 ... and that's mostly playing opponents from the three absolute worst (weakest) conferences in FCS. Yet they somehow received two first-place votes. Incredible! So, yes, they could actually jump Inc Word. FWIW: we've seen UIW play several times now, and they might well be the best FCS team in the state of Texas.

Points two and three: Yep. Chatty could indeed jump Weber and W&M over UM ... both moves would still be within my rule of thumb and very much in the mix.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
#15 Fan said:
I know this will sound dumb, and God I hope I'm wrong...but with Jackson State hosting College Gameday, I'd bet they jump Incarnate Word. The love for that program is unbelievable. I also think Chatty jumps Weber, pretty impressive win for them. I'm with Payton about a limited number of teams chipper-worthy, but pollsters still love parity. I think W&M jump Griz and we're #11
A fascinating summation, and one I can't really disagree with.

The fact that Jackson State has played no one of any consequence seems to mean nothing to the pollsters. The combined records of their opponents is 19-31 ... and that's mostly playing opponents from the three absolute worst (weakest) conferences in FCS. Yet they somehow received two first-place votes. Incredible! So, yes, they could actually jump Inc Word. FWIW: we've seen UIW play several times now, and they might well be the best FCS team in the state of Texas.

Points two and three: Yep. Chatty could indeed jump Weber and W&M over UM ... both moves would still be within my rule of thumb and very much in the mix.

I love that you geek out on this shit....I wish I had more time, and I do compared to years past, to watch more FCS games, but I've gotten into podcasts on FCS and love the different takes. I still think you need to be a guess on that show the three guys do (MVFC, can't remember what other conferences they represent), it's pretty mediocre compared to Griz Fan Pod but still good to get info outside of the Big Sky. They actually know their shit too which is nice. Thanks for all you do
 
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