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State of the Program(s)

SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
No, other things are more important. Not mediocre. Playoffs, playoff wins and post season rankings are more important.

The team's goals list nothing remotely close to post season rankings...unless it's number 1.

Win the BSC
Beat the neighbors
Win the Natty

Those are the goals...not to be entrusted to the timid, weak, or....yes, mediocre.

The mediocre team accomplished zero of the team goals. That's just a fact.

I care about the other 3. Conference rank, unless first, is just plain dumb.
 
mthoopsfan said:
SoldierGriz said:
The team's goals list nothing remotely close to post season rankings...unless it's number 1.

Win the BSC
Beat the neighbors
Win the Natty

Those are the goals...not to be entrusted to the timid, weak, or....yes, mediocre.

The mediocre team accomplished zero of the team goals. That's just a fact.

I care about the other 3. Conference rank, unless first, is just plain dumb.

Cool, Hoops is happy with 6th in the BigSky! Being 500 in conference matters to most sane Griz fans. Getting dominated by the Cats matters to most Griz fans.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Westcoastfan said:
Winning the conference is not important? Winning the rivalry game is not important? Beating Idaho at home is not important? Hoops you are the second biggest idiot in here after Paytonlives.

None of those things are as important as the 3 I mentioned. Conference is least important. Payton and are the 2 smartest on egriz.

Winning the conference gets you a better seed in the playoffs, and makes it easier to get further in the playoffs. If you want to succeed in the playoffs, the best route for doing that is succeeding in your conference. And I guarantee if UM had won the conference you’d be touting it as an accomplishment (because it is).
 
... Hauck drops all the players flags coming down the tunnel and into the stadium..
and than all hell breaks loose , thus the losing streaks starts....just saying there is
something going on here? ...its creepy! :roll:
 
mthoopsfan said:
Westcoastfan said:
Is 6th in the BigSky not mediocre? 4-4 in conference and buying the last playoff spot seems pretty mediocre to me.

No, other things are more important. Not mediocre. Playoffs, playoff wins and post season rankings are more important.

aaahhhh yes... Allowing your AD to bully and buy your way into the post season is much , much more important than actually competing during the regular season! Dude - 6th in the conference is the very definition of "mediocre"....
 
PTGrizzly said:
mthoopsfan said:
None of those things are as important as the 3 I mentioned. Conference is least important. Payton and are the 2 smartest on egriz.

Winning the conference gets you a better seed in the playoffs, and makes it easier to get further in the playoffs. If you want to succeed in the playoffs, the best route for doing that is succeeding in your conference. And I guarantee if UM had won the conference you’d be touting it as an accomplishment (because it is).

Yup, but it’s not as important as the other. Would you rather be Sac the past 3 years. That was embarrassing.
 
mthoopsfan said:
PTGrizzly said:
Winning the conference gets you a better seed in the playoffs, and makes it easier to get further in the playoffs. If you want to succeed in the playoffs, the best route for doing that is succeeding in your conference. And I guarantee if UM had won the conference you’d be touting it as an accomplishment (because it is).

Yup, but it’s not as important as the other. Would you rather be Sac the past 3 years. That was embarrassing.

I would much rather have been in the position Sac was in each of the past 3 years.
 
mthoopsfan said:
bigtyme said:
I don’t think it is delusional Griz fans at all. I think it is the case of an ego-centric HC that is convincing the AD that it is under control, and the AD drinking the kool-aid. After all, the money keeps coming in for the upgrades, kids are getting the grades we asked for, and we made the playoffs because just about any football team that fields a team does. We are flat-out content being mediocre.

The Griz aren’t mediocre. Some Griz fans are.

6th place in the conference = mediocre = to very good.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
mthoopsfan said:
Yup, but it’s not as important as the other. Would you rather be Sac the past 3 years. That was embarrassing.

I would much rather have been in the position Sac was in each of the past 3 years.

And only won 1 playoff game? No wonder some of your posts are so goofy. I am talking results, not position. 1 playoff win is pathetic.
 
mthoopsfan said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I would much rather have been in the position Sac was in each of the past 3 years.

And only won 1 playoff game? No wonder some of your posts are so goofy. I am talking results, not position. 1 playoff win is pathetic.

I agree with you that this season was pathetic because we only won one playoff game. Bobby and the rest of the bully buch were pathetic.
 
mthoopsfan said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I would much rather have been in the position Sac was in each of the past 3 years.

And only won 1 playoff game? No wonder some of your posts are so goofy. I am talking results, not position. 1 playoff win is pathetic.

The ONLY reason we have more playoff wins than Suck State is because they haven’t had to play in the play-in round. That’s it. THAT is what you’re hanging your hat on. :lol:
 
mthoopsfan said:
PTGrizzly said:
Winning the conference gets you a better seed in the playoffs, and makes it easier to get further in the playoffs. If you want to succeed in the playoffs, the best route for doing that is succeeding in your conference. And I guarantee if UM had won the conference you’d be touting it as an accomplishment (because it is).

Yup, but it’s not as important as the other. Would you rather be Sac the past 3 years. That was embarrassing.

They made it further than UM this year. I’d take that.
 
AZGrizFan said:
mthoopsfan said:
And only won 1 playoff game? No wonder some of your posts are so goofy. I am talking results, not position. 1 playoff win is pathetic.

The ONLY reason we have more playoff wins than Suck State is because they haven’t had to play in the play-in round. That’s it. THAT is what you’re hanging your hat on. :lol:

There’s a reason he’s not talking about who’s making it farther in the playoffs. If the teams were reversed, that’s all he would talk about.
 
AZGrizFan said:
mthoopsfan said:
And only won 1 playoff game? No wonder some of your posts are so goofy. I am talking results, not position. 1 playoff win is pathetic.

The ONLY reason we have more playoff wins than Suck State is because they haven’t had to play in the play-in round. That’s it. THAT is what you’re hanging your hat on. :lol:

I mean I think we have 30 plus in division 1 playoff wins and Sac State has one in school history. I’m sure that has everything to do with playing in the first round.

If you’re referring to the last three seasons I believe we only played in one opening round once (2022). While we notched wins in 2021 and 2019 in the second round off of a bye. Sac made the playoffs all three years with a bye and had a record of 1-2.
 
AZGrizFan said:
mthoopsfan said:
And only won 1 playoff game? No wonder some of your posts are so goofy. I am talking results, not position. 1 playoff win is pathetic.

The ONLY reason we have more playoff wins than Suck State is because they haven’t had to play in the play-in round. That’s it. THAT is what you’re hanging your hat on. :lol:
I think the #4 seed should make it past the second round, and the #2 seed past the quarterfinals most of the time, regardless of what the Griz do, but that's just me.
 
uofmman1122 said:
AZGrizFan said:
The ONLY reason we have more playoff wins than Suck State is because they haven’t had to play in the play-in round. That’s it. THAT is what you’re hanging your hat on. :lol:
I think the #4 seed should make it past the second round, and the #2 seed past the quarterfinals most of the time, regardless of what the Griz do, but that's just me.

...and I wish the Griz could sniff a 2 or 4 seed...but, alas!

I'd settle for conference championships and beating the neighbors at this point...which is very, very depressing.
 
SoldierGriz said:
uofmman1122 said:
I think the #4 seed should make it past the second round, and the #2 seed past the quarterfinals most of the time, regardless of what the Griz do, but that's just me.

...and I wish the Griz could sniff a 2 or 4 seed...but, alas!

I'd settle for conference championships and beating the neighbors at this point...which is very, very depressing.
If we were the #4, #4, and #2 seeds three years in a row and had that playoff record (1-3 at home), I have a feeling you and everyone else would be more angry at Bobby than you are right now.

I've already said I think Taylor is a great coach, and Sac should be proud of what he did, but to act like his playoff record isn't awful is just hilarious.
 
uofmman1122 said:
SoldierGriz said:
...and I wish the Griz could sniff a 2 or 4 seed...but, alas!

I'd settle for conference championships and beating the neighbors at this point...which is very, very depressing.
If we were the #4, #4, and #2 seeds three years in a row and had that playoff record (1-3 at home), I have a feeling you and everyone else would be more angry at Bobby than you are right now.

I've already said I think Taylor is a great coach, and Sac should be proud of what he did, but to act like his playoff record isn't awful is just hilarious.

No disagreement on playoff performance. But, they still have rings and banners...of some sort to be proud of.
 
SoldierGriz said:
uofmman1122 said:
If we were the #4, #4, and #2 seeds three years in a row and had that playoff record (1-3 at home), I have a feeling you and everyone else would be more angry at Bobby than you are right now.

I've already said I think Taylor is a great coach, and Sac should be proud of what he did, but to act like his playoff record isn't awful is just hilarious.

No disagreement on playoff performance. But, they still have rings and banners...of some sort to be proud of.
Right, and no one can take that away from them.

But if we're constantly comparing records of other teams to ours, the idea that their record would be more acceptable to our fanbase than what we had in the same timeframe just seems incredibly farfetched, to me. So acting like "at least they did x, y, and z" doesn't matter because that still wouldn't be good enough for the fans calling for Bobby to be fired right now. As I said, they'd only be shouting louder.
 
mthoopsfan said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I would much rather have been in the position Sac was in each of the past 3 years.

And only won 1 playoff game? No wonder some of your posts are so goofy. I am talking results, not position. 1 playoff win is pathetic.

I didn't say the same playoff results, but the position. I know, sometimes comprehension can be difficult.
 
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