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Spread or Fly Sweep

spsyk

spsyk

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Who has the knowledge to explain the difference between the Hurried Spread Offense and the Fly Sweep. Or is the Fly Sweep just a play in the Hurried Spread Offense.

If you never played the game as I have, only on Xbox, and I get creamed by anyone younger than twelve. Only those that played the game, Please Explain.
 
Fly sweep is a play w/in the spread option. In stitts offense, however, he uses it very frequently as a fake. In an article he explains how his offense might actually run the play once a game but frequently fake the play to mess with the defense.
 
The offense is predicated on the wr sweep is what I'm saying. That is the basis of the offense. The motion of the wr and build off that. It is a variation of the triple option
 
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"The FLY Offense is a mis-direction, ball concealing, deception offense. It has been compared to the Wing T and an option style offense. The WR Sweep is the base play of the offense and its most dangerous play. "Sweep till they weep" is a comon phrase used in the Fly Offense. Another big phase of the Fly offense is its use of the No Huddle. The decepetion of the offense and the use of the No Huddle defenses usually gives the Fly Offense a "vanilla" type of or base type defense. The Fly is one of the most exciting new offenses."
 
The other innovation with this that Stitt added is he made it a forward pass to the sweeping or fly receiver. In the past, the motioned receiver would have to slow down a step to take the handoff from the QB which would not allow him to get to the edge as quickly. Stitt had the QB shuttle or pitch to the motion receiver so he doesn't lose a step. The other innovative part of that is if it was dropped, it was an incomplete forward pass and not a fumble (which a drop would have been prior without Stitt's variation). So faster and safer....and used perfectly by West Virginia in that bowl game for a lot of success.
 
GrizzleMoose said:
New Hampshire ran the "fly sweep some today". The announcers were calling it "jet sweep". Same thing.
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I saw Louisiana Lafayette and I think Utah run it today as well. Guess our offense if behind the times...
 
I could be wrong. I've been taught that the jet sweep is ran with the q under center. The fly from shotgun. Have also had people say that x in motion is jet and z is fly. From the shotgun position the q can read the d and option for the forward pitch to the wr in motion wether it is the z or x receiver, or he can run or pass to a back or te. That is what I thought the fly is.
 
I coach 10-11 year olds and am not a pro by any means! I've had success running the jet sweep, but having the timing down is very criticle. Have not tried to do a timed forward pass to wr at full speed from a shotgun snap in the backfield. Maybe next year. If I am wrong on the difference between the jet and the fly please tell me!
 
Haven't the Griz been using a version of this "play" for years, although we call it the " shuffle pass".
 
VAGriz said:
I coach 10-11 year olds and am not a pro by any means! I've had success running the jet sweep, but having the timing down is very criticle. Have not tried to do a timed forward pass to wr at full speed from a shotgun snap in the backfield. Maybe next year. If I am wrong on the difference between the jet and the fly please tell me!
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Then you haven't lived, my friend.
 
snap said:
VAGriz said:
I coach 10-11 year olds and am not a pro by any means! I've had success running the jet sweep, but having the timing down is very criticle. Have not tried to do a timed forward pass to wr at full speed from a shotgun snap in the backfield. Maybe next year. If I am wrong on the difference between the jet and the fly please tell me!
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Then you haven't lived, my friend.
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Seriously! I tried it twice last night. The first time it was successful, but the second time it failed. But that was after my third margarita. No big deal, it was merely an incomplete pass, and not a fumble.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, or is it just coincidence, that the two teams playing for the National Championship both pound the ball with a pro-set offense. And TG just might have been right, be careful what you wish for.
 
spsyk said:
Haven't the Griz been using a version of this "play" for years, although we call it the " shuffle pass".
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Not exactly. The shuffle or shovel pass (as it is typically called because of the shoveling-like motion of the QB's arms) is indeed a forward pass but it often happens between the tackles whereas the fly or jet is designed to get to the edges. It is a variation on a trap or draw play. The OL blocks out, often the RB fakes or slides off his block into the middle, the QB steps up into the pocket and "shovels" the ball forward.
 
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