Sports Network FCS Top 25 Poll

[mlbowl]

Uh observer the only thing you've beaten is...

.... Oregon state who was nationally ranked and who is 3-0 since beating all fbs programs...

You were saying........

Oh, well surely they should move right back into the top 25 then, right? They beat Hawaii and just recently had to come from behind for a 4 pt win against SDSU...I'm sure we'll see them back in the top 25 soon!....you were saying.......

No they will not return to the top 25 because THEY WERE BEAT BY AN FCS TEAM WHO HAD THE INTESTINAL FORTITUDE to play them. I mentioned their undefeated record against all other FBS teams to stress a point....

Good lord - are all Griz fans as dense as you?

Btw, since you like to point out that OSU was ranked "when you played them", well, ASU was ranked when the Griz beat them, sooooooo...weren't you pointing out that the Griz haven't played anybody? Are all EWho fans as dense as you?

 

[mlbowl]

No they will not return to the top 25 because THEY WERE BEAT BY AN FCS TEAM WHO HAD THE INTESTINAL FORTITUDE to play them.

Furthermore, the Griz already had "THE INTESTINAL FORTITUDE" to play them (also beat them). So, congratulations on your team having the "intestinal fortitude" to pave a road that had already been paved.

 

[fencer24]

real teams play for pride

In 99.9% of the seasons, ewooo has had little else to play for. :lol:

How much pride in whoring your self out?

 

[RayWill]

So hilarious this freaking eagle fan. they see the Griz as thier biggest rival and we still look at them as little cousin. they have a whole thread on the RedZONE jsut talking about Egriz!! :lol:

But seriously. They are tough this year, on offense. Great scoring offense but it remains to be seen if the lack of defense is going to cost them. If every game turns into a scoring shootout then eventually the ball will bounce the other way. Or God forbid Adams gets hurt then they will be up shit creek without a paddle and bye bye beagles. you have made a good program over there and credit is due where it is due and the Griz far from rely on the past to intimidate foes (funny the way observer words that is like once they were intimidated). They are proud of there traditions just the same as EWU is. I sure hope your team and coaches don't start taking the attitude that your fans are, that all they have to do is show up and it is a victory, 'cause if they do you are in for a fall. I think what really bothers eagles fans as that the Griz aren't intimidated by the screaming beagles. Eagles fans felt like a torch passed in 2010 and after last years bad season and they don't like thinking that they might not be some sort of automatic top for the big sky. Relying on the fact you beat a FBS team is not something. You are one of the top tier FCS team and the truth of the matter is that any of the top ten have a shot at beating a FBS team you were not the only FCS program to top FBS team this year. AND no the Griz this year haven't played an FBS team. They don't need too and it is stupid to do so then. Do not kid yourselves. Your AD did not Schedule Oregon State and Toledo because of pride. They did so for money pure and simple. If you actually had a large enough fan base to fill a stadium then maybe you wouldn't have to play those games either.

Simple fact is that EWU is not invincible and can be beat. If Anyone figures out how to contain your one man team you got going there then you are in trouble. I give all credit four your victories thus far to Vernon Adams not the EWU team. The Griz have every bit of a chance of beating you and it is far from a far gone conclusion that you have won. So there I am done feeding the bottom feeding troll, go back to your basement.

 

[grizrgood]

I think EWU has a damn good football team this year! They are to be commended on how well they've done with that schedule thus far! Observer has been entertaining so far but my guess is that she is about 14 or 15 years old based on the one sided ridiculous arguments about why, what, how, pride, money etc. pertaining to the EWU schedule. I am looking forward to getting that team in to WGS for a good ole fashion rumble that the Griz will win by at least 10 points!!!

BTW troll, observe this :stfu:

 

[ewueagle2010]

I don't think most EWU fans believe that we schedule FBS teams for pride. It's always for money, and why not? Now that polls take into consideration strength of schedule, why not schedule some FBS teams? Look what it does when you beat them. It can't be all about money, otherwise why would NDSU schedule Kansas State? Do they need the money that bad? I doubt it...

I also don't think EWU is invincible and I don't know many people outside Missoula that think their team IS invincible. I don't personally think any Big Sky team will make it through the conference undefeated this season. I can't wait for October 26th!! Not because I think EWU will roll into WGS and hand the Griz a beatdown, but because it's going to be a fantastic game that I really don't know who's going to win at this point.

As for the comment about EWU being a one man team, WOW! Clueless, plain and simple. Think VA can be a successful as he has been without an extremely deep and talented O-line? Or how about a strong running game and talented, young WR's? C'mon, at least pay attention if you're going to talk smack. :roll: And what team wouldn't be screwed if they lost their starting QB? You'd think a Griz fan would know that first hand...

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

I don't think most EWU fans believe that we schedule FBS teams for pride. It's always for money, and why not? Now that polls take into consideration strength of schedule, why not schedule some FBS teams? Look what it does when you beat them. It can't be all about money, otherwise why would NDSU schedule Kansas State? Do they need the money that bad? I doubt it...

I also don't think EWU is invincible and I don't know many people outside Missoula that think their team IS invincible. I don't personally think any Big Sky team will make it through the conference undefeated this season. I can't wait for October 26th!! Not because I think EWU will roll into WGS and hand the Griz a beatdown, but because it's going to be a fantastic game that I really don't know who's going to win at this point.

As for the comment about EWU being a one man team, WOW! Clueless, plain and simple. Think VA can be a successful as he has been without an extremely deep and talented O-line? Or how about a strong running game and talented, young WR's? C'mon, at least pay attention if you're going to talk smack. :roll: And what team wouldn't be screwed if they lost their starting QB? You'd think a Griz fan would know that first hand...

Nice, objective post. Il be there for the EWU game this year, and can hardly wait!

 

[AZGrizFan]

I don't think most EWU fans believe that we schedule FBS teams for pride. It's always for money, and why not? Now that polls take into consideration strength of schedule, why not schedule some FBS teams? Look what it does when you beat them. It can't be all about money, otherwise why would NDSU schedule Kansas State? Do they need the money that bad? I doubt it...

I also don't think EWU is invincible and I don't know many people outside Missoula that think their team IS invincible. I don't personally think any Big Sky team will make it through the conference undefeated this season. I can't wait for October 26th!! Not because I think EWU will roll into WGS and hand the Griz a beatdown, but because it's going to be a fantastic game that I really don't know who's going to win at this point.

As for the comment about EWU being a one man team, WOW! Clueless, plain and simple. Think VA can be a successful as he has been without an extremely deep and talented O-line? Or how about a strong running game and talented, young WR's? C'mon, at least pay attention if you're going to talk smack. :roll: And what team wouldn't be screwed if they lost their starting QB? You'd think a Griz fan would know that first hand...

NDSU might be the only FCS team that schedules FBS teams EXPECTING to win...and it ain't for the money. :lol:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I don't think most EWU fans believe that we schedule FBS teams for pride. It's always for money, and why not? Now that polls take into consideration strength of schedule, why not schedule some FBS teams? Look what it does when you beat them. It can't be all about money, otherwise why would NDSU schedule Kansas State? Do they need the money that bad? I doubt it...

I also don't think EWU is invincible and I don't know many people outside Missoula that think their team IS invincible. I don't personally think any Big Sky team will make it through the conference undefeated this season. I can't wait for October 26th!! Not because I think EWU will roll into WGS and hand the Griz a beatdown, but because it's going to be a fantastic game that I really don't know who's going to win at this point.

As for the comment about EWU being a one man team, WOW! Clueless, plain and simple. Think VA can be a successful as he has been without an extremely deep and talented O-line? Or how about a strong running game and talented, young WR's? C'mon, at least pay attention if you're going to talk smack. :roll: And what team wouldn't be screwed if they lost their starting QB? You'd think a Griz fan would know that first hand...

One of the rational Eastern Washington University fans right here. Eagle2010, please talk some sense into the the other 12.

 

[goatcreekgriz]

EWU has a good team, but I couldn't care less. NAU and Cal Poly are just as dangerous. The only thing significant about EWU is that EWU's existence is the most persuasive reason for Idaho to come back to the BSC -- so EWU can have a rival and quit trying to make UM their rival. Remember the "Governor's Cup"? No one gave a crap other than George Gee, and he's from Montana. EWU is basically just another game. Less important, in reality, than playing App State and a lot less important than the Bobcats, but more important than any Division II team. Let's worry about NAU.

 

[RayWill]

I don't think most EWU fans believe that we schedule FBS teams for pride. It's always for money, and why not? Now that polls take into consideration strength of schedule, why not schedule some FBS teams? Look what it does when you beat them. It can't be all about money, otherwise why would NDSU schedule Kansas State? Do they need the money that bad? I doubt it...

I also don't think EWU is invincible and I don't know many people outside Missoula that think their team IS invincible. I don't personally think any Big Sky team will make it through the conference undefeated this season. I can't wait for October 26th!! Not because I think EWU will roll into WGS and hand the Griz a beatdown, but because it's going to be a fantastic game that I really don't know who's going to win at this point.

As for the comment about EWU being a one man team, WOW! Clueless, plain and simple. Think VA can be a successful as he has been without an extremely deep and talented O-line? Or how about a strong running game and talented, young WR's? C'mon, at least pay attention if you're going to talk smack. :roll: And what team wouldn't be screwed if they lost their starting QB? You'd think a Griz fan would know that first hand...

Well put. I never said the Griz are invincible and belive that EWU will be thier toughest defense. As for the one man team I have not seen enough out of the rest of the offense to comment and should of held that judgement. Just there have been quite a few of your fans coming over here lately talking about how unstoppable you are and that there is no way you lose at all just becuase of the Oregon state game and it started to feel ignorant. I do as Griz fan know what losing a starting QB does that is why I said what I did. I am excited for the game in October as well as living in North Idaho I have lots of EWU fans as friends. I really do feel though that if a team is able to contain VA then you will be truly hurt and have not been overly impressed enough with the run game to believe you could win the tougher games with it alone. My post was not directed at EWU fans in general but mostly at the couple of idiots that keep trying to hijack every thread over here. I don't go to your boards and post stupid shit either. As for the money, yes strenght of schedule does come into play for the playoff brackets but it is not as big of a piece as the money is which all the observer kept saying. I hear from fans around here and spokane all the time how it is impossible to loose this season because of VA yada yada. yes I will give your recievers some props they are good at opening up opportunities for the QB but still without VA they would not be as big of play makers. As well as your O line would not cut i if VA was not as mobile as he is. The Griz Bravado that seems to irk you guys. Well that is just how the fans get and how loyal they are to the team they support. As you stated it is the only game in town and so it gets a lot of attention. The Fans of it look forward to the games and rooting for the Griz or scats it just part of the identity of being a Montanan as much s anything else. The revenge tour talk everything else is not that they think they are invincible but that they know it is not the end that they are not finished yet there is more to come and that they are very likely to be able to compete on the same level as you are this year. EWU does have a great team. And I think october will be a toss up. Look forward to it

 

[GottaluvGriz]

Gottaluv, Yes, K-State may not be a Big 12 contender this year, but don't even come close to selling NDSU short on that win. K-State WON the Big 12 in 2012, IS A big 12 Team with 90-plus athletes worthy of a Big-12 Scholarship. It matters not how good they are in the Big 12 this year, they are still K-State, and to top it off, NDSU beat a Bill Snyder coached team in one of the toughest stadiums in the big 12. I could give a rats if K-State loses every game, NDSU's win was a thing of beauty and is rare. I'll bet you the next FCS opponent K-State plays, IF they even bother again, won't sniff them.

Let's not go the Bobcat Nation route and start trying to conjure up ways to point out how NDSU is something less than they are. Right now, THE BIZON are the TRUE FCS POWER. Will they be forever? No. But right now, they are The Bama' of the FCS.

Again, NDSU is number 1 until someone can prove otherwise. My point was that KSU is not the KSU of last year (middle to low half of the conference this year and may struggle with Iowa State) and just maybe the NDSU win was not "Miracle on Ice". I would not be shocked to see an FCS team knock NDSU off their perch this year.
Sure hope the Griz get a shot this year!
Go Griz!

 

[George Ferguson]

I dont think even NDSU fans compared the K-State game to anything close to that. In fact, NDSU fans believed they were going to win, not because K-State is bad, but because NDSU is that good.

I would love nothing more than to see the Griz play the Bizon and beat them in the playoffs. But, I just don't need to be convinced mentally that NDSU is somehow not as good as they actually are in order to feel better about the kind of season the Griz can have. I've seen people on BN trying to discredit NDSU, Now here, and an EWU fan did it earlier today here as well. At this point, it actually makes those people look worried that NDSU is in fact, unbeatable. As of today, NDSU has not presented a single reason for anyone to say they aren't an overwhelming favorite to beat every FCS team they play this season, including in the playoffs, and that includes Montana, Montana State and Eastern Washington.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I dont think even NDSU fans compared the K-State game to anything close to that. In fact, NDSU fans believed they were going to win, not because K-State is bad, but because NDSU is that good.

I would love nothing more than to see the Griz play the Bizon and beat them in the playoffs. But, I just don't need to be convinced mentally that NDSU is somehow not as good as they actually are in order to feel better about the kind of season the Griz can have. I've seen people on BN trying to discredit NDSU, Now here, and an EWU fan did it earlier today here as well. At this point, it actually makes those people look worried that NDSU is in fact, unbeatable. As of today, NDSU has not presented a single reason for anyone to say they aren't an overwhelming favorite to beat every FCS team they play this season, including in the playoffs, and that includes Montana, Montana State and Eastern Washington.

Any knowledgeable fan credits and respects what NDSU has done the last few years. It is truly amazing, and they have earned the respect. I can see both sides of this. Based on what they have done the last few years and so far this year, yes they have proven to be the hands down favorite to win it all. However, every season is a new season. The fans saying they can be beatable are also right. There are teams capable of playing a turnover free game, and keeping them at bay. It will take a disciplined team offensively, and a great defense. To beat them, a team will have to be willing to go to war, and bleed a lot. Granted, it is too early in the season to definitely know which teams can do it.

I can tell you how SDSU holds up to them will be a good measuring stick. I too think SDSU is about 10 spots over rated. The NAU game will be huge to measure the GRIZ as well. NAU is the 1st very good defensive team we have played. They are also the 1st team that is run oriented on offense. So far the GRIZ have shown they take care of the ball, disciplined, tough, confident, and very versatile offensively. If those things continue with the NAU game, damn right I will like the GRIZ chances to be the team to upset NDSU. I hope that game is in Frisco this season.

We will all know more after this week. :thumb:

 

[George Ferguson]

Grizrule, I agree. My point is, there is a difference between fans believing their team can beat NDSU, and posting reasons why NDSU isn't as good as people think they are. It's my opinion, that Kansas State's W-L record in the Big 12 this season has ZERO bearing on how good NDSU is in the FCS.

 

[EWURanger29]

NAU and Cal Poly are just as dangerous.

If you really believe that, then I doubt there's much that can be said because you obviously haven't been paying attention to anything outside of the Griz.

On the Montana game, obviously it will be a big game. It's always a big game for us, but mostly because UM is usually who you need to get through to win the Big Sky. As a program, we are less concerned with just beating Montana as we are winning the conference and competing for a NC. It's just that you usually don't get one without the other. Other than that, it is just like any other game. We have two early season games that have the potential to be much bigger if we win both of them (Oregon State and SHSU).

Lastly, there are no EWU fans on these boards that think this team in invincible. Not even close. Do we think we have a great team? Yes, absolutely. And EWU would clearly be a different team without VA so no argument there...but couldn't you say the same about UM with no JJ, MSU without DM (the latter is pretty obvious). So not sure what the point of this "without Adams" stuff is. We are nit without him. And anyway, we hear that EVERY season, whether it be Kaufman, Jones, Meyer, Kimble...whomever.

 

[EWURanger29]

.... Oregon state who was nationally ranked and who is 3-0 since beating all fbs programs...

You were saying........

Oh, well surely they should move right back into the top 25 then, right? They beat Hawaii and just recently had to come from behind for a 4 pt win against SDSU...I'm sure we'll see them back in the top 25 soon!....you were saying.......

No they will not return to the top 25 because THEY WERE BEAT BY AN FCS TEAM WHO HAD THE INTESTINAL FORTITUDE to play them. I mentioned their undefeated record against all other FBS teams to stress a point....

Good lord - are all Griz fans as dense as you?

Btw, since you like to point out that OSU was ranked "when you played them", well, ASU was ranked when the Griz beat them, sooooooo...weren't you pointing out that the Griz haven't played anybody? Are all EWho fans as dense as you?

App State was ranked in the AP top 25? News to me. Congrats!

 

[bigkid]

There is no question that ndsu is the team to beat. They're big,fast, and physical. I believe games are won and lost in the trenches and IMO Montana can match up with them on both sides of the ball. Beating those guys would take a perfect game on our part. This week we play nau.........lets take care of business.

 

[UMcheer2000]

I don't think most EWU fans believe that we schedule FBS teams for pride. It's always for money, and why not? Now that polls take into consideration strength of schedule, why not schedule some FBS teams? Look what it does when you beat them. It can't be all about money, otherwise why would NDSU schedule Kansas State? Do they need the money that bad? I doubt it...

I also don't think EWU is invincible and I don't know many people outside Missoula that think their team IS invincible. I don't personally think any Big Sky team will make it through the conference undefeated this season. I can't wait for October 26th!! Not because I think EWU will roll into WGS and hand the Griz a beatdown, but because it's going to be a fantastic game that I really don't know who's going to win at this point.

As for the comment about EWU being a one man team, WOW! Clueless, plain and simple. Think VA can be a successful as he has been without an extremely deep and talented O-line? Or how about a strong running game and talented, young WR's? C'mon, at least pay attention if you're going to talk smack. :roll: And what team wouldn't be screwed if they lost their starting QB? You'd think a Griz fan would know that first hand...

Well put. I never said the Griz are invincible and belive that EWU will be thier toughest defense. As for the one man team I have not seen enough out of the rest of the offense to comment and should of held that judgement. Just there have been quite a few of your fans coming over here lately talking about how unstoppable you are and that there is no way you lose at all just becuase of the Oregon state game and it started to feel ignorant. I do as Griz fan know what losing a starting QB does that is why I said what I did. I am excited for the game in October as well as living in North Idaho I have lots of EWU fans as friends. I really do feel though that if a team is able to contain VA then you will be truly hurt and have not been overly impressed enough with the run game to believe you could win the tougher games with it alone. My post was not directed at EWU fans in general but mostly at the couple of idiots that keep trying to hijack every thread over here. I don't go to your boards and post stupid shit either. As for the money, yes strenght of schedule does come into play for the playoff brackets but it is not as big of a piece as the money is which all the observer kept saying. I hear from fans around here and spokane all the time how it is impossible to loose this season because of VA yada yada. yes I will give your recievers some props they are good at opening up opportunities for the QB but still without VA they would not be as big of play makers. As well as your O line would not cut i if VA was not as mobile as he is. The Griz Bravado that seems to irk you guys. Well that is just how the fans get and how loyal they are to the team they support. As you stated it is the only game in town and so it gets a lot of attention. The Fans of it look forward to the games and rooting for the Griz or scats it just part of the identity of being a Montanan as much s anything else. The revenge tour talk everything else is not that they think they are invincible but that they know it is not the end that they are not finished yet there is more to come and that they are very likely to be able to compete on the same level as you are this year. EWU does have a great team. And I think october will be a toss up. Look forward to it

TLR?
HolyWallOfText and no breaks? :O

 

[mlbowl]

Oh, well surely they should move right back into the top 25 then, right? They beat Hawaii and just recently had to come from behind for a 4 pt win against SDSU...I'm sure we'll see them back in the top 25 soon!....you were saying.......

No they will not return to the top 25 because THEY WERE BEAT BY AN FCS TEAM WHO HAD THE INTESTINAL FORTITUDE to play them. I mentioned their undefeated record against all other FBS teams to stress a point....

Good lord - are all Griz fans as dense as you?

Btw, since you like to point out that OSU was ranked "when you played them", well, ASU was ranked when the Griz beat them, sooooooo...weren't you pointing out that the Griz haven't played anybody? Are all EWho fans as dense as you?

App State was ranked in the AP top 25? News to me. Congrats!

Never said they were ranked in the AP top 25 but they were ranked in the FCS national polls at the time the Griz played them. My point is if he can point out that OSU was a ranked team (don't care which poll) why can't Montana fans claim that they played a ranked team in ASU?