Split the Big Sky Conference?

[ISUguy]

Since Loghry was quoted as saying that one of the two "conferences" would retain the Big Sky name, I would assume that league would include the charter members. The Big Sky charter specifically prohibits expelling members, so unless a school voluntarily chose to leave the "Big Sky Conference" (and I'm assuming all the charters want to stay together), they could not be forced to leave.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Since Loghry was quoted as saying that one of the two "conferences" would retain the Big Sky name, I would assume that league would include the charter members. The Big Sky charter specifically prohibits expelling members, so unless a school voluntarily chose to leave the "Big Sky Conference" (and I'm assuming all the charters want to stay together), they could not be forced to leave.

So, would Idaho get "charter" status? I'd think not, and hope not. Last thing UI deserves is the ability to call their own shots.

 

[BWahlberg]

I would call it the, "because I think it works good" conference split

Big Sky Division: Montana / Montana State / Idaho / UND / ISU / Weber / UNC
Great West Division: PSU / Sac / Poly / EWU / NAU / SUU / Davis

 

[Grizzly Oredigger]

I would call it the, "because I think it works good" conference split

Big Sky Division: Montana / Montana State / Idaho / UND / ISU / Weber / UNC
Great West Division: PSU / Sac / Poly / EWU / NAU / SUU / Davis

This seems like the best split - geographically and talent wise

 

[SWeberCat02]

I do agree that the charter members (ISU, UM, MSU, & WSU), NAU (joined 1970), and to a lesser extent EWU (joined 1987) are deserving of preferential treatment since they've been committed to the conference for such a long period of time.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Since Loghry was quoted as saying that one of the two "conferences" would retain the Big Sky name, I would assume that league would include the charter members. The Big Sky charter specifically prohibits expelling members, so unless a school voluntarily chose to leave the "Big Sky Conference" (and I'm assuming all the charters want to stay together), they could not be forced to leave.

This kind of thing is why we don't deserve to have nice things. Who, in their right mind, would approve such language?

 

[statler & waldorf]

Sit down and take a breath. Idaho "mulling" a move to the BSC? They would have had to be mulling this for at least the last 5-6 years. Not like this surprised them, unless they are run like Engstrom incompetents, which they are not. Its independent status or BSC. They are coming to a fork in the road, "take it," as Yogi said.
Question: Doesn't the BSC have every FCS school west of the divide NOW?

 

[BWahlberg]

I would call it the, "because I think it works good" conference split

Big Sky Division: Montana / Montana State / Idaho / UND / ISU / Weber / UNC
Great West Division: PSU / Sac / Poly / EWU / NAU / SUU / Davis

This seems like the best split - geographically and talent wise

Any true north / south or east / west stacks too much talent in one pool. This would spread it... granted it would cost a few rivalries, like UM v EWU but otherwise most others stay intact.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Sit down and take a breath. Idaho "mulling" a move to the BSC? They would have had to be mulling this for at least the last 5-6 years. Not like this surprised them, unless they are run like Engstrom incompetents, which they are not. Its independent status or BSC. They are coming to a fork in the road, "take it," as Yogi said.
Question: Doesn't the BSC have every FCS school west of the divide NOW?

Sand Diego. Theyre Independent but FCS nonetheless.

 

[BWahlberg]

Sit down and take a breath. Idaho "mulling" a move to the BSC? They would have had to be mulling this for at least the last 5-6 years. Not like this surprised them, unless they are run like Engstrom incompetents, which they are not. Its independent status or BSC. They are coming to a fork in the road, "take it," as Yogi said.
Question: Doesn't the BSC have every FCS school west of the divide NOW?

Sand Diego. Theyre Independent but FCS nonetheless.

Aren't they in the Pioneer, and non-scholarship?

 

[SWeberCat02]

Sit down and take a breath. Idaho "mulling" a move to the BSC? They would have had to be mulling this for at least the last 5-6 years. Not like this surprised them, unless they are run like Engstrom incompetents, which they are not. Its independent status or BSC. They are coming to a fork in the road, "take it," as Yogi said.
Question: Doesn't the BSC have every FCS school west of the divide NOW?

Sand Diego. Theyre Independent but FCS nonetheless.

Aren't they in the Pioneer, and non-scholarship?

Yes and Yes

But yes, San Diego is the only FCS school in the west not in the Big Sky.

 

[mtgriz]

I would call it the, "because I think it works good" conference split

Big Sky Division: Montana / Montana State / Idaho / UND / ISU / Weber / UNC
Great West Division: PSU / Sac / Poly / EWU / NAU / SUU / Davis

This seems like the best split - geographically and talent wise

Any true north / south or east / west stacks too much talent in one pool. This would spread it... granted it would cost a few rivalries, like UM v EWU but otherwise most others stay intact.

EWU has PSU. They finish each season fighting for the venerated Dam Cup.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Sit down and take a breath. Idaho "mulling" a move to the BSC? They would have had to be mulling this for at least the last 5-6 years. Not like this surprised them, unless they are run like Engstrom incompetents, which they are not. Its independent status or BSC. They are coming to a fork in the road, "take it," as Yogi said.
Question: Doesn't the BSC have every FCS school west of the divide NOW?

Sand Diego. Theyre Independent but FCS nonetheless.

Aren't they in the Pioneer, and non-scholarship?

Yes and Yes

But yes, San Diego is the only FCS school in the west not in the Big Sky.

Ahh Pioneer, thanks for the help...might as well be Independent.

 

[Griz!ron]

I would call it the, "because I think it works good" conference split

Big Sky Division: Montana / Montana State / Idaho / UND / ISU / Weber / UNC
Great West Division: PSU / Sac / Poly / EWU / NAU / SUU / Davis

This seems like the best split - geographically and talent wise

Any true north / south or east / west stacks too much talent in one pool. This would spread it... granted it would cost a few rivalries, like UM v EWU but otherwise most others stay intact.

Talent levels change over the years, i'd keep EWU in the Big Sky. We would still get a couple of at large births if the talent level was evident. Which is should be clear is the two league scheduled quite a few pre-season games, which i'd think that they would based on geography and connections.

I'd prefer a name other than the 'Great West' because it is referencing a failed league. Perhaps a title that is in deference to the Big Sky connection, such as the Western Sky.

 

[George Ferguson]

As long as the Big Sky is in the FCS, there will never be a conference championship game, no matter what teams are added or kicked out or if it's split into divisions. The FCS does not have room for conference championship games and the playoffs, and while it "could" be figured out, it's not going to happen.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I would call it the, "because I think it works good" conference split

Big Sky Division: Montana / Montana State / Idaho / UND / ISU / Weber / UNC
Great West Division: PSU / Sac / Poly / EWU / NAU / SUU / Davis

This seems like the best split - geographically and talent wise

Any true north / south or east / west stacks too much talent in one pool. This would spread it... granted it would cost a few rivalries, like UM v EWU but otherwise most others stay intact.

EWU has PSU. They finish each season fighting for the venerated Dam Cup.

Man, does EWU get the shaft in that lineup from a travel standpoint.

 

[ISUguy]

Since Loghry was quoted as saying that one of the two "conferences" would retain the Big Sky name, I would assume that league would include the charter members. The Big Sky charter specifically prohibits expelling members, so unless a school voluntarily chose to leave the "Big Sky Conference" (and I'm assuming all the charters want to stay together), they could not be forced to leave.

This kind of thing is why we don't deserve to have nice things. Who, in their right mind, would approve such language?

Probably the founding institutions of the Big Sky -- way back in 1963.

 

[Htowngriz]

As long as the Big Sky is in the FCS, there will never be a conference championship game, no matter what teams are added or kicked out or if it's split into divisions. The FCS does not have room for conference championship games and the playoffs, and while it "could" be figured out, it's not going to happen.

Didn't really read the thread, but I'm pretty sure this is the end of it. :thumb:

 

[kemajic]

I would call it the, "because I think it works good" conference split

Big Sky Division: Montana / Montana State / Idaho / UND / ISU / Weber / UNC
Great West Division: PSU / Sac / Poly / EWU / NAU / SUU / Davis

This seems like the best split - geographically and talent wise

Sure, with EWU and Idaho a three wood apart and in separate divisions.

 

[bgbigdog]

Man... You must be able to absolutely crush a three wood Dr. Kem. Put me down for your driving academy this spring.