Spear from Idaho talks FBS-FCS and realignment

[Grizzoola]

College football has become a $billion industry. It's time Congress defines the role of college football in our society. What's it going to be: semi-pro, paid, athletes playing for $$$$ programs, or amateur (unpaid) athletes playing for $ programs? It may be that the NCAA is corrupt, esp. when it participates in arranging games, bowls, etc., from solely the standpoint of making money.

It may well take an "act of Congress" to step in and decide whether college football is an enhancement of student life or some profitable business for the school. There's a real dichotomy on the college scene: Big schools are industrially focused; smaller schools are academically focused.

It could well be that Congress starts levying a tax on college football, just as with pro football. Maybe that will bring in some reality to the direction college football should go. "Your revenues are above this amount, welcome the IRS."

The question is: What is college football all about? Is it about amateur intercollegiate competition like tennis, golf, swimming, etc.?" It's becoming apparent to me that football is not in the same category as these "lesser" sports. It's about making money. That sets it apart.

Oh, Congress is gridlocked? Not about something like this. Everyone will don white robes and halos in the name of "the old college spirit."

 

[AZGrizFan]

College football has become a $billion industry. It's time Congress defines the role of college football in our society. What's it going to be: semi-pro, paid, athletes playing for $$$$ programs, or amateur (unpaid) athletes playing for $ programs? It may be that the NCAA is corrupt, esp. when it participates in arranging games, bowls, etc., from solely the standpoint of making money.

It may well take an "act of Congress" to step in and decide whether college football is an enhancement of student life or some profitable business for the school. There's a real dichotomy on the college scene: Big schools are industrially focused; smaller schools are academically focused.

It could well be that Congress starts levying a tax on college football, just as with pro football. Maybe that will bring in some reality to the direction college football should go. "Your revenues are above this amount, welcome the IRS."

The question is: What is college football all about? Is it about amateur intercollegiate competition like tennis, golf, swimming, etc.?" It's becoming apparent to me that football is not in the same category as these "lesser" sports. It's about making money. That sets it apart.

Oh, Congress is gridlocked? Not about something like this. Everyone will don white robes and halos in the name of "the old college spirit."

Yeah, lets get congress involved. They run SO efficiently on their own....

 

[kemajic]

College football has become a $billion industry. It's time Congress defines the role of college football in our society. What's it going to be: semi-pro, paid, athletes playing for $$$$ programs, or amateur (unpaid) athletes playing for $ programs? It may be that the NCAA is corrupt, esp. when it participates in arranging games, bowls, etc., from solely the standpoint of making money.

It may well take an "act of Congress" to step in and decide whether college football is an enhancement of student life or some profitable business for the school. There's a real dichotomy on the college scene: Big schools are industrially focused; smaller schools are academically focused.

It could well be that Congress starts levying a tax on college football, just as with pro football. Maybe that will bring in some reality to the direction college football should go. "Your revenues are above this amount, welcome the IRS."

The question is: What is college football all about? Is it about amateur intercollegiate competition like tennis, golf, swimming, etc.?" It's becoming apparent to me that football is not in the same category as these "lesser" sports. It's about making money. That sets it apart.

Oh, Congress is gridlocked? Not about something like this. Everyone will don white robes and halos in the name of "the old college spirit."

Yeah, lets get congress involved. They run SO efficiently on their own....

Agree; that's the solution we're looking for....

 

[bigskyguy]

College football has become a $billion industry. It's time Congress defines the role of college football in our society. What's it going to be: semi-pro, paid, athletes playing for $$$$ programs, or amateur (unpaid) athletes playing for $ programs? It may be that the NCAA is corrupt, esp. when it participates in arranging games, bowls, etc., from solely the standpoint of making money.

It may well take an "act of Congress" to step in and decide whether college football is an enhancement of student life or some profitable business for the school. There's a real dichotomy on the college scene: Big schools are industrially focused; smaller schools are academically focused.

It could well be that Congress starts levying a tax on college football, just as with pro football. Maybe that will bring in some reality to the direction college football should go. "Your revenues are above this amount, welcome the IRS."

The question is: What is college football all about? Is it about amateur intercollegiate competition like tennis, golf, swimming, etc.?" It's becoming apparent to me that football is not in the same category as these "lesser" sports. It's about making money. That sets it apart.

Oh, Congress is gridlocked? Not about something like this. Everyone will don white robes and halos in the name of "the old college spirit."

Yeah, lets get congress involved. They run SO efficiently on their own....

Agree; that's the solution we're looking for....

Just do the opposite of what they suggest. :lol:

 

[PlayerRep]

College football has become a $billion industry. It's time Congress defines the role of college football in our society. What's it going to be: semi-pro, paid, athletes playing for $$$$ programs, or amateur (unpaid) athletes playing for $ programs? It may be that the NCAA is corrupt, esp. when it participates in arranging games, bowls, etc., from solely the standpoint of making money.

It may well take an "act of Congress" to step in and decide whether college football is an enhancement of student life or some profitable business for the school. There's a real dichotomy on the college scene: Big schools are industrially focused; smaller schools are academically focused.

It could well be that Congress starts levying a tax on college football, just as with pro football. Maybe that will bring in some reality to the direction college football should go. "Your revenues are above this amount, welcome the IRS."

The question is: What is college football all about? Is it about amateur intercollegiate competition like tennis, golf, swimming, etc.?" It's becoming apparent to me that football is not in the same category as these "lesser" sports. It's about making money. That sets it apart.

Oh, Congress is gridlocked? Not about something like this. Everyone will don white robes and halos in the name of "the old college spirit."

Yeah, lets get congress involved. They run SO efficiently on their own....

See the article in the new thread entitled: The Case for Higher Earning. I apologize in advance for posting interesting articles on egriz. Ha. Thx for your comment in another thread.

 

[Spanky]

Max can write the new laws that govern college athletics much the same as he did with Obama Care. :thumb:

 

[GrizLA]

Idaho plays both USC and Auburn in 2015... Good luck with that!


:lol:

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Yes sir! Exactly.. Cash is king!

Eventually, that will disappear as attendance, especially at USC will drop, as it has been for a couple of years. And, with the advent of Pac 12 Network, fewer people are watching the average game, much less the "play down". The FCS schools and Idaho's will find it harder to get the big $$ to play in the big stadiums unless they are the top 10 of the FCS. For now, it is a money maker for some programs. Just look at the number of Big Sky schools playing Pac 12 teams this year. The Pac 12 fans are complaining the way the Montana crowd complains about playing Western Oregon. The difference is that Pac 12 fans have many options for Fall afternoons and ADs are aware of that. These games will disappear sooner rather than later.

 

[GrizLA]

Max can write the new laws that govern college athletics much the same as he did with Obama Care. :thumb:

Or, the new Fast Track trade treaty guaranteed to put more Americans out of work. That guy is something else.

 

[Grizzoola]

Oh, Congress is gridlocked? Not about something like this. Everyone will don white robes and halos in the name of "the old college spirit."

Yeah, lets get congress involved. They run SO efficiently on their own....

You either ignored or didn't get my last sentence, so I've not only isolated it, but boldfaced it for you, et al. It is a little sarcastic, with a hope that on an issue like this, which would be nonpartisan, that Congress would/could come together. At least all the issues would be aired in hearings.

Much of it has to do with the integrity of our higher ed. institutions and whether there has been "mission creep" to the extent that the tail is wagging the dog when it comes to football, at least for some institutions. Apparently, the NCAA, which so many of you complain about, is in on the scam, and perhaps the chief culprit.

If there is any corruption, it has come from the private sector: TV and advertisers. That's where all the big money is generated and comes from.

Questions I see in all this are, "What is the actual status of college football in American higher education?" "Has money corrupted the sport and the institutions that sponsor it?" "Is the NCAA corrupted by this situation?" If so, "What can Congress do about it?"

Only Congressional hearings provide a national public forum to examine all sides of this issue. The media would love them. And, as I said, for all you who missed it, this would be a chance for Congress to show it is of some value in considering which, I think, is a nonpartisan, serious issue for this country.

Otherwise, I'm as disgusted with Congress as most of you are. But, as Boehner has said, our Congress is divided because the country is divided.

 

[garizzalies]

Questions I see in all this are, "What is the actual status of college football in American higher education?" "Has money corrupted the sport and the institutions that sponsor it?" "Is the NCAA corrupted by this situation?" If so, "What can Congress do about it?"

Also, why does the center point before the snap?

 

[Grizzoola]

Questions I see in all this are, "What is the actual status of college football in American higher education?" "Has money corrupted the sport and the institutions that sponsor it?" "Is the NCAA corrupted by this situation?" If so, "What can Congress do about it?"

Also, why does the center point before the snap?

:lol: :clap: Brilliant!

 

[Big G]

Oh, Congress is gridlocked? Not about something like this. Everyone will don white robes and halos in the name of "the old college spirit."

Yeah, lets get congress involved. They run SO efficiently on their own....

You either ignored or didn't get my last sentence, so I've not only isolated it, but boldfaced it for you, et al. It is a little sarcastic, with a hope that on an issue like this, which would be nonpartisan, that Congress would/could come together. At least all the issues would be aired in hearings.

Much of it has to do with the integrity of our higher ed. institutions and whether there has been "mission creep" to the extent that the tail is wagging the dog when it comes to football, at least for some institutions. Apparently, the NCAA, which so many of you complain about, is in on the scam, and perhaps the chief culprit.

If there is any corruption, it has come from the private sector: TV and advertisers. That's where all the big money is generated and comes from.

Questions I see in all this are, "What is the actual status of college football in American higher education?" "Has money corrupted the sport and the institutions that sponsor it?" "Is the NCAA corrupted by this situation?" If so, "What can Congress do about it?"

Only Congressional hearings provide a national public forum to examine all sides of this issue. The media would love them. And, as I said, for all you who missed it, this would be a chance for Congress to show it is of some value in considering which, I think, is a nonpartisan, serious issue for this country.

Otherwise, I'm as disgusted with Congress as most of you are. But, as Boehner has said, our Congress is divided because the country is divided.

+1

 

[AZGrizFan]

Oh, Congress is gridlocked? Not about something like this. Everyone will don white robes and halos in the name of "the old college spirit."

Yeah, lets get congress involved. They run SO efficiently on their own....

You either ignored or didn't get my last sentence, so I've not only isolated it, but boldfaced it for you, et al. It is a little sarcastic, with a hope that on an issue like this, which would be nonpartisan, that Congress would/could come together. At least all the issues would be aired in hearings.

Much of it has to do with the integrity of our higher ed. institutions and whether there has been "mission creep" to the extent that the tail is wagging the dog when it comes to football, at least for some institutions. Apparently, the NCAA, which so many of you complain about, is in on the scam, and perhaps the chief culprit.

If there is any corruption, it has come from the private sector: TV and advertisers. That's where all the big money is generated and comes from.

Questions I see in all this are, "What is the actual status of college football in American higher education?" "Has money corrupted the sport and the institutions that sponsor it?" "Is the NCAA corrupted by this situation?" If so, "What can Congress do about it?"

Only Congressional hearings provide a national public forum to examine all sides of this issue. The media would love them. And, as I said, for all you who missed it, this would be a chance for Congress to show it is of some value in considering which, I think, is a nonpartisan, serious issue for this country.
Otherwise, I'm as disgusted with Congress as most of you are. But, as Boehner has said, our Congress is divided because the country is divided.

No. Benghazi is a serious issue. IRS targeting conservative groups is a serious issue. NSA wiretapping and reading private citizens' emails is a serious issue. Fast & Furious gunrunning is a serious issue. THIS is not a "serious" issue in which Congress should stick its' dysfunctional nose.

 

[Grizzoola]

No. Benghazi is a serious issue. IRS targeting conservative groups is a serious issue. NSA wiretapping and reading private citizens' emails is a serious issue. Fast & Furious gunrunning is a serious issue. THIS is not a "serious" issue in which Congress should stick its' dysfunctional nose.

Why do you Repugs always inject your politics into any discussion on this board that only mentions some nonpartisan political solution to a problem? :?

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

No. Benghazi is a serious issue. IRS targeting conservative groups is a serious issue. NSA wiretapping and reading private citizens' emails is a serious issue. Fast & Furious gunrunning is a serious issue. THIS is not a "serious" issue in which Congress should stick its' dysfunctional nose.

Why do you Repugs always inject your politics into any discussion on this board that only mentions some nonpartisan political solution to a problem? :?

Probably for the same reason your dumb ass wants to put a dome over WGS and constantly posts threads about all things NOT FCS like Hauck and UNLV?

 

[OlPonyQB]

AD Spear "manages a budget" regarding Idaho football, nothing more. The football program has lost all identity and has been "adrift" for years. Vandal fans haven't a clue regarding the schools they play. As a "college experience" it is -5 on a 1-10 scale.
AD and administration need only ask how and why they got there if they honestly want a positive program. They have hidden under the "planning helmet" long enough.

 

[Hammer]

Questions I see in all this are, "What is the actual status of college football in American higher education?" "Has money corrupted the sport and the institutions that sponsor it?" "Is the NCAA corrupted by this situation?" If so, "What can Congress do about it?"

Also, why does the center point before the snap?

To check the peripheral vision of the other guys on the line???

 

[AZGrizFan]

No. Benghazi is a serious issue. IRS targeting conservative groups is a serious issue. NSA wiretapping and reading private citizens' emails is a serious issue. Fast & Furious gunrunning is a serious issue. THIS is not a "serious" issue in which Congress should stick its' dysfunctional nose.

Why do you Repugs always inject your politics into any discussion on this board that only mentions some nonpartisan political solution to a problem? :?

Because I fucking laugh at any idiot who claims THIS is some "serious" issue that congress could/should get involved in, when there are OBVIOUS serious issues that they SHOULD get involved in, but don't.

 

[kemajic]

Oh, Congress is gridlocked? Not about something like this. Everyone will don white robes and halos in the name of "the old college spirit."

Yeah, lets get congress involved. They run SO efficiently on their own....

You either ignored or didn't get my last sentence, so I've not only isolated it, but boldfaced it for you, et al. It is a little sarcastic, with a hope that on an issue like this, which would be nonpartisan, that Congress would/could come together. At least all the issues would be aired in hearings.

Much of it has to do with the integrity of our higher ed. institutions and whether there has been "mission creep" to the extent that the tail is wagging the dog when it comes to football, at least for some institutions. Apparently, the NCAA, which so many of you complain about, is in on the scam, and perhaps the chief culprit.

If there is any corruption, it has come from the private sector: TV and advertisers. That's where all the big money is generated and comes from.

Questions I see in all this are, "What is the actual status of college football in American higher education?" "Has money corrupted the sport and the institutions that sponsor it?" "Is the NCAA corrupted by this situation?" If so, "What can Congress do about it?"

Only Congressional hearings provide a national public forum to examine all sides of this issue. The media would love them. And, as I said, for all you who missed it, this would be a chance for Congress to show it is of some value in considering which, I think, is a nonpartisan, serious issue for this country.
Otherwise, I'm as disgusted with Congress as most of you are. But, as Boehner has said, our Congress is divided because the country is divided.

No. Benghazi is a serious issue. IRS targeting conservative groups is a serious issue. NSA wiretapping and reading private citizens' emails is a serious issue. Fast & Furious gunrunning is a serious issue. THIS is not a "serious" issue in which Congress should stick its' dysfunctional nose.

Agree; it's more at the level of Bridgegate.

 

[Bluenoser]

NO ONE at the FBS level cares about attendance. What they care about is television revenue. And the reason they don't want others moving to FBS is because they don't want to share that with additional programs.

I'll say it again: it's many of us who are in denial, watching the last train leave the station, while thinking we'll simply catch the next one.

It's worse than that; many just want to keep sitting at the station. Who knows what might happen if you got on one of those trains....

I have a pretty good idea what would happen.