Somebody call the wambulance

[garizzalies]

Responding to a question that's all...

Why won’t you respond to my questions? I quoted you and posed seven pointedly poignant questions directed at the precise subject of this thread but you simply skipped it again. Why?
What’s wrong? Are you scared? I thought you had no fear written all over you (literally).

 

[mthoopsfan]

See my responses above in brackets, and embedded.

Did your top punt returner and 2d KO returner miss most of the season?

Of the offensive skill players, the Griz injuries were 2 or 3 times greater than the Bison. By the end of the season, the Griz were missing their top 5 or so offensive playmakers.

I am interested to hear why you think the griz injuries were 2 or 3 times greater than the bison.

Yes, the bison did lose their top kick off returner for a portion of the season..Christian Watson was an all American special team player as well as all American wide receiver. [Watson played almost all of the season; therefore, NDSU didn't lose a starting receiver for most of the season, a great returner for most of the season, and another receiver for the JMU game. Losing Watson for 3 games was almost nothing.

Noah gindorff was a returning all conference tight end, so yes he was a big loss. [Again, NDSU has lots of TE's. Losing your TE was something, but not much, for when he wasn't playing.]

The bison were down to their 5th string running back in tamerik williams who had to play the final 4 games of the season after seth Wilson, Dominic gonnella, then 3rd string Kobe Johnson, and 4th string Jalen Bussey all went out due to injuries [UM played its 5th running back most of the season, from early until late. Again, NDSU was not hurt that bad.]

The loss of knight at running back was big for montana.

Some teams are able to withstand injuries and others are not, next man up... [True, but the discussion was not about that. It was about how much injuries impacted the season. Yes, NDSU had a nice back-up qb. UM's frosh back-up didn't have a great season.]

See my above responses in brackets. After looking more closely, I think the UM injuries in offensive skill players were 3 or 4 times worse than NDSU's.

 

[Cowboys84]

I am interested to hear why you think the griz injuries were 2 or 3 times greater than the bison.

Yes, the bison did lose their top kick off returner for a portion of the season..Christian Watson was an all American special team player as well as all American wide receiver. [Watson played almost all of the season; therefore, NDSU didn't lose a starting receiver for most of the season, a great returner for most of the season, and another receiver for the JMU game. Losing Watson for 3 games was almost nothing.

Noah gindorff was a returning all conference tight end, so yes he was a big loss. [Again, NDSU has lots of TE's. Losing your TE was something, but not much, for when he wasn't playing.]

The bison were down to their 5th string running back in tamerik williams who had to play the final 4 games of the season after seth Wilson, Dominic gonnella, then 3rd string Kobe Johnson, and 4th string Jalen Bussey all went out due to injuries [UM played its 5th running back most of the season, from early until late. Again, NDSU was not hurt that bad.]

The loss of knight at running back was big for montana.

Some teams are able to withstand injuries and others are not, next man up... [True, but the discussion was not about that. It was about how much injuries impacted the season. Yes, NDSU had a nice back-up qb. UM's frosh back-up didn't have a great season.]

See my above responses in brackets. After looking more closely, I think the UM injuries in offensive skill players were 3 or 4 times worse than NDSU's.

O.k., since you think ndsu missing Christian Watson during their playoff run didn't mean that much, and that Sammy akem missing a large part of the jmu playoff game, and Montana playing without samori toure last season was a bigger issue for Montana

I also remember you saying a while ago that you would take akem and toure both over Watson as wide receivers..

Here's an idea, if akem and toure both get drafted in this years nfl draft, I will immediately quit posting over here...but if Watson gets selected over both akem and toure you have to quit posting over here and on other future accounts..

Sounds fair, doesn't it?..

 

[mthoopsfan]

See my above responses in brackets. After looking more closely, I think the UM injuries in offensive skill players were 3 or 4 times worse than NDSU's.

O.k., since you think ndsu missing Christian Watson during their playoff run didn't mean that much, and that Sammy akem missing a large part of the jmu playoff game, and Montana playing without samori toure last season was a bigger issue for Montana [Again, our 2d receiver and great punt returner missed most of the season. Yes, Montana's situation was way worse than NDSU's.]

I also remember you saying a while ago that you would take akem and toure both over Watson as wide receivers..[I don't recall saying that, but if I did, yes, I would take 2 top receivers over 1 top receiver anyway.]

Here's an idea, if akem and toure both get drafted in this years nfl draft, I will immediately quit posting over here...but if Watson gets selected over both akem and toure you have to quit posting over here and on other future accounts.. [Here's an idea for you. Try to support one single thing you say. You mostly just spew BS and nonsense.]

Sounds fair, doesn't it?..

See my above responses in brackets. You can consider this. Either you start posting things that make sense, or I will continue to kick you ass out of the ballpark.

 

[Cowboys84]

O.k., since you think ndsu missing Christian Watson during their playoff run didn't mean that much, and that Sammy akem missing a large part of the jmu playoff game, and Montana playing without samori toure last season was a bigger issue for Montana [Again, our 2d receiver and great punt returner missed most of the season. Yes, Montana's situation was way worse than NDSU's.]

I also remember you saying a while ago that you would take akem and toure both over Watson as wide receivers..[I don't recall saying that, but if I did, yes, I would take 2 top receivers over 1 top receiver anyway.]

Here's an idea, if akem and toure both get drafted in this years nfl draft, I will immediately quit posting over here...but if Watson gets selected over both akem and toure you have to quit posting over here and on other future accounts.. [Here's an idea for you. Try to support one single thing you say. You mostly just spew BS and nonsense.]

Sounds fair, doesn't it?..

See my above responses in brackets. You can consider this. Either you start posting things that make sense, or I will continue to kick you ass out of the ballpark.

You would take an 2nd receiver in akem and a "great" punter returner in sulser haha, neither one could even make the honorable mention team this last year in the big sky conference.over an all American at both positions .. your ability to evaluate talent is truly laughable.

You are either delusional, or you don't even believe what you are saying it's one of the two, now the question is which one is it?.

Why don't you take up my offer on toure and akem against Watson in the nfl draft if you have so much faith in your guys, are you that scared?

 

[mthoopsfan]

See my above responses in brackets. You can consider this. Either you start posting things that make sense, or I will continue to kick you ass out of the ballpark.

You would take an 2nd receiver in akem and a "great" punter returner in sulser haha, neither one could even make the honorable mention team this last year in the big sky conference.over an all American at both positions .. your ability to evaluate talent is truly laughable.

You are either delusional, or you don't even believe what you are saying it's one of the two, now the question is which one is it?.

Why don't you take up my offer on toure and akem against Watson in the nfl draft if you have so much faith in your guys, are you that scared?

Sulser was averaging 12.5 per punt return when he got hurt. The leading Big Sky returner averaged 9.7. Sulser was in a great tandem with Flowers on KO returns.

I said I'd take 2 players over 1 player. Read before you comment. I have not previously commented on Sulser.

I am sure Watson is a good player, but I don't care about him in the least. I can see you are in love. I think it's funny that no matter the discussion or argument, your default is that Watson is a great player (even when he's never even part of the discussion).

Watson had 43 catches. Wow. That's amazing. Your punt returner averaged 13.3. Just a bit more than Sulser. Watson had 10 KO returns averaging 22.7, with a long of 45 and no TD's. The Griz' Flowers had 16 for 30.5 average, a long of 99 and 2 TD's. I'll take Flowers on KO returns.

 

[garizzalies]

No Fear Hotdish,

Why won’t you address my questions? It’s like you’re scared or something. Why are you so afraid of talking about bubcat fans’ behavior—you know, the topic of this thread? You keep ignoring and deflecting with your trolling ways, and making bubs look even worse.
What is your avatar name on BM? Lemme guess, “[something dumb]84”?

 

[Cowboys84]

You would take an 2nd receiver in akem and a "great" punter returner in sulser haha, neither one could even make the honorable mention team this last year in the big sky conference.over an all American at both positions .. your ability to evaluate talent is truly laughable.

You are either delusional, or you don't even believe what you are saying it's one of the two, now the question is which one is it?.

Why don't you take up my offer on toure and akem against Watson in the nfl draft if you have so much faith in your guys, are you that scared?

Sulser was averaging 12.5 per punt return when he got hurt. The leading Big Sky returner averaged 9.7. Sulser was in a great tandem with Flowers on KO returns.

I said I'd take 2 players over 1 player. Read before you comment. I have not previously commented on Sulser.

I am sure Watson is a good player, but I don't care about him in the least. I can see you are in love. I think it's funny that no matter the discussion or argument, your default is that Watson is a great player (even when he's never even part of the discussion).

Watson had 43 catches. Wow. That's amazing. Your punt returner averaged 13.3. Just a bit more than Sulser. Watson had 10 KO returns averaging 22.7, with a long of 45 and no TD's. The Griz' Flowers had 16 for 30.5 average, a long of 99 and 2 TD's. I'll take Flowers on KO returns.

So I take it you are scared to take me up on my idea on the nfl draft day selections between akem, toure, and watson.

I was wondering if you would have the courage to accept.. Montana tough?

 

[mthoopsfan]

Sulser was averaging 12.5 per punt return when he got hurt. The leading Big Sky returner averaged 9.7. Sulser was in a great tandem with Flowers on KO returns.

I said I'd take 2 players over 1 player. Read before you comment. I have not previously commented on Sulser.

I am sure Watson is a good player, but I don't care about him in the least. I can see you are in love. I think it's funny that no matter the discussion or argument, your default is that Watson is a great player (even when he's never even part of the discussion).

Watson had 43 catches. Wow. That's amazing. Your punt returner averaged 13.3. Just a bit more than Sulser. Watson had 10 KO returns averaging 22.7, with a long of 45 and no TD's. The Griz' Flowers had 16 for 30.5 average, a long of 99 and 2 TD's. I'll take Flowers on KO returns.

So I take it you are scared to take me up on my idea on the nfl draft day selections between akem, toure, and watson.

I was wondering if you would have the courage to accept.. Montana tough?

So you are scared to admit that Flowers was a much better KO returner than Watson? And that 2 very good receivers for a team is better than one very good receiver for a team.

The last year Akem and Toure played together, they had 146 receptions, 2043 yards and 18 TD's.

Last season, Watson had 43 receptions for 801 yards and 7 TD's.

Sorry, buddy, but Akem and Toure, together, were way better and more productive than Watson.

You are a joke of a football analyst.

 

[Cowboys84]

So I take it you are scared to take me up on my idea on the nfl draft day selections between akem, toure, and watson.

I was wondering if you would have the courage to accept.. Montana tough?

So you are scared to admit that Flowers was a much better KO returner than Watson? And that 2 very good receivers for a team is better than one very good receiver for a team.

The last year Akem and Toure played together, they had 146 receptions, 2043 yards and 18 TD's.

Last season, Watson had 43 receptions for 801 yards and 7 TD's.

Sorry, buddy, but Akem and Toure, together, were way better and more productive than Watson.

You are a joke of a football analyst.

Flowers is a good kick off return who was 1st team big sky, Watson was all American as a kick off returner and wide receiver, explain that..

Last year montanan didn't have two very good wide receivers, they had one good receiver not very good who made honorable mention and that was roberts and a tight end who made honorable mention in Grossman that's it... Akem last year didn't make any list..

Watson got invited to the most prestigious college all star game in the senior bowl, the nfl combine where he lit it up... his is projected by most draft experts like espns' Mel kiper, Mike mcshay, the nfl newtorks' daniel Jeremiah, and Fox sports Bucky Brooks to get picked in the late 1st round or 2nd round...these are all people who are paid very well to know and do their jobs.

I know toure made a all star game too, Everything i have heard about him is he's a mid round pick at the highest and most likely a lower round selection... Akem will most likely be an undrafted free agent...

Do you have the courage of your convictions to take my bet...or just talk big, and not back it up...I think we all know..

 

[mthoopsfan]

So you are scared to admit that Flowers was a much better KO returner than Watson? And that 2 very good receivers for a team is better than one very good receiver for a team.

The last year Akem and Toure played together, they had 146 receptions, 2043 yards and 18 TD's.

Last season, Watson had 43 receptions for 801 yards and 7 TD's.

Sorry, buddy, but Akem and Toure, together, were way better and more productive than Watson.

You are a joke of a football analyst.

Flowers is a good kick off return who was 1st team big sky, Watson was all American as a kick off returner and wide receiver, explain that.. [Watson is a terrific player on the top team. He didn't deserve to be the first-team KO returner; Flowers was better. Just normal politics.]

Last year montanan didn't have two very good wide receivers, they had one good receiver not very good who made honorable mention and that was roberts and a tight end who made honorable mention in Grossman that's it... Akem last year didn't make any list.. [As I said, the UM 2d best receiver got hurt. Arem didn't have as good of a year as the prior two. UM didn't have the QB they had in the past, and he was hurt several times.]

Watson got invited to the most prestigious college all star game in the senior bowl, the nfl combine where he lit it up... his is projected by most draft experts like espns' Mel kiper, Mike mcshay, the nfl newtorks' daniel Jeremiah, and Fox sports Bucky Brooks to get picked in the late 1st round or 2nd round...these are all people who are paid very well to know and do their jobs. [Watson is big, tall, and fast. Yes, he will be a first rounder. He wasn't especially productive in college.]

I know toure made a all star game too, Everything i have heard about him is he's a mid round pick at the highest and most likely a lower round selection... Akem will most likely be an undrafted free agent... [Again, Toure and Akem were much more productive in college than Watson. You are hung up on the NFL; I've been talking about college.]

Do you have the courage of your convictions to take my bet...or just talk big, and not back it up...I think we all know..[I have never discussed anything relating to the NFL with these receivers. I have never disputed Watson would be a first round pick. Bet with yourself, if you want a bet.]

Do you have the courage to admit that Toure and Akem were much more productive in Watson in the last year they played together?

 

[Cowboys84]

Flowers is a good kick off return who was 1st team big sky, Watson was all American as a kick off returner and wide receiver, explain that.. [Watson is a terrific player on the top team. He didn't deserve to be the first-team KO returner; Flowers was better. Just normal politics.]

Last year montanan didn't have two very good wide receivers, they had one good receiver not very good who made honorable mention and that was roberts and a tight end who made honorable mention in Grossman that's it... Akem last year didn't make any list.. [As I said, the UM 2d best receiver got hurt. Arem didn't have as good of a year as the prior two. UM didn't have the QB they had in the past, and he was hurt several times.]

Watson got invited to the most prestigious college all star game in the senior bowl, the nfl combine where he lit it up... his is projected by most draft experts like espns' Mel kiper, Mike mcshay, the nfl newtorks' daniel Jeremiah, and Fox sports Bucky Brooks to get picked in the late 1st round or 2nd round...these are all people who are paid very well to know and do their jobs. [Watson is big, tall, and fast. Yes, he will be a first rounder. He wasn't especially productive in college.]

I know toure made a all star game too, Everything i have heard about him is he's a mid round pick at the highest and most likely a lower round selection... Akem will most likely be an undrafted free agent... [Again, Toure and Akem were much more productive in college than Watson. You are hung up on the NFL; I've been talking about college.]

Do you have the courage of your convictions to take my bet...or just talk big, and not back it up...I think we all know..[I have never discussed anything relating to the NFL with these receivers. I have never disputed Watson would be a first round pick. Bet with yourself, if you want a bet.]

Do you have the courage to admit that Toure and Akem were much more productive in Watson in the last year they played together?

This is pure gold... On this page alone you went from.

A- from missing Watson for three games wasn't a big deal....to

B- Watson is a good player...to

C- Watson is a good receiver...to

D- I have never disputed Watson would be a 1st round pick...

I have never seen a person change his tune so quickly, guess you don't have the guts to make the best... so Typical run your mouth, and don't back it up...

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Well, technically, Watson would have to back it up. Unless we’re talking about literally strapping on your helmet and going out there.

 

[Cowboys84]

Flowers is a good kick off return who was 1st team big sky, Watson was all American as a kick off returner and wide receiver, explain that.. [Watson is a terrific player on the top team. He didn't deserve to be the first-team KO returner; Flowers was better. Just normal politics.]

Last year montanan didn't have two very good wide receivers, they had one good receiver not very good who made honorable mention and that was roberts and a tight end who made honorable mention in Grossman that's it... Akem last year didn't make any list.. [As I said, the UM 2d best receiver got hurt. Arem didn't have as good of a year as the prior two. UM didn't have the QB they had in the past, and he was hurt several times.]

Watson got invited to the most prestigious college all star game in the senior bowl, the nfl combine where he lit it up... his is projected by most draft experts like espns' Mel kiper, Mike mcshay, the nfl newtorks' daniel Jeremiah, and Fox sports Bucky Brooks to get picked in the late 1st round or 2nd round...these are all people who are paid very well to know and do their jobs. [Watson is big, tall, and fast. Yes, he will be a first rounder. He wasn't especially productive in college.]

I know toure made a all star game too, Everything i have heard about him is he's a mid round pick at the highest and most likely a lower round selection... Akem will most likely be an undrafted free agent... [Again, Toure and Akem were much more productive in college than Watson. You are hung up on the NFL; I've been talking about college.]

Do you have the courage of your convictions to take my bet...or just talk big, and not back it up...I think we all know..[I have never discussed anything relating to the NFL with these receivers. I have never disputed Watson would be a first round pick. Bet with yourself, if you want a bet.]

Do you have the courage to admit that Toure and Akem were much more productive in Watson in the last year they played together?

I know this will be tough for you to comprehend, but I will try...

Ndsu is a run first team, no wide receiver in their program is going to be as productive as you say or put up big numbers, that doesn't mean ndsu didn't find different way to get him the ball, they did That a lot.

In 15 games this last season ndsu passed the ball 257 times, that equals roughly 17 passes a game, ndsu ran the ball 678 times which comes to roughly running the ball 45 imes a game..that is about 2.6. running plays to 1 passing play..

Does that make any sense to you now why he wasn't putting up big numbers? ....

Are you still afraid to take my offer on where Watson, toure and akem go in the upcoming nfl draft...or are you a little..

Don't back down now... instead of running your mouth, back it up.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Do you have the courage to admit that Toure and Akem were much more productive in Watson in the last year they played together?

This is pure gold... On this page alone you went from.

A- from missing Watson for three games wasn't a big deal....to

B- Watson is a good player...to

C- Watson is a good receiver...to

D- I have never disputed Watson would be a 1st round pick...

I have never seen a person change his tune so quickly, guess you don't have the guts to make the best... so Typical run your mouth, and don't back it up...

I didn't change my tune on anything with Watson. Feel free to provide some quotes or evidence.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Do you have the courage to admit that Toure and Akem were much more productive in Watson in the last year they played together?

I know this will be tough for you to comprehend, but I will try...

Ndsu is a run first team, no wide receiver in their program is going to be as productive as you say or put up big numbers, that doesn't mean ndsu didn't find different way to get him the ball, they did That a lot. [Yes, I and everyone else in the world knows this. That's why Toure and Akem were much more productive the last year they played together.]

In 15 games this last season ndsu passed the ball 257 times, that equals roughly 17 passes a game, ndsu ran the ball 678 times which comes to roughly running the ball 45 imes a game..that is about 2.6. running plays to 1 passing play.. [See above comment.]

Does that make any sense to you now why he wasn't putting up big numbers? ....[See above comment.]

Are you still afraid to take my offer on where Watson, toure and akem go in the upcoming nfl draft...or are you a little.. [I am not afraid of anything with regard to you. I think you're an idiot.]

Don't back down now... instead of running your mouth, back it up. [Are you willing to admit that Toure/Akem were way more productive in receiving than Watson was?]

See my responses above in brackets.

 

[Cowboys84]

This is pure gold... On this page alone you went from.

A- from missing Watson for three games wasn't a big deal....to

B- Watson is a good player...to

C- Watson is a good receiver...to

D- I have never disputed Watson would be a 1st round pick...

I have never seen a person change his tune so quickly, guess you don't have the guts to make the best... so Typical run your mouth, and don't back it up...

I didn't change my tune on anything with Watson. Feel free to provide some quotes or evidence.

I just did, check your responses to my statements in the brackets on this very page from top to bottom......holy shit...

 

[mthoopsfan]

I didn't change my tune on anything with Watson. Feel free to provide some quotes or evidence.

I just did, check your responses to my statements in the brackets on this very page from top to bottom......holy shit...

Okay, I looked. I didn't change my tune at all.

 

[Cowboys84]

I know this will be tough for you to comprehend, but I will try...

Ndsu is a run first team, no wide receiver in their program is going to be as productive as you say or put up big numbers, that doesn't mean ndsu didn't find different way to get him the ball, they did That a lot. [Yes, I and everyone else in the world knows this. That's why Toure and Akem were much more productive the last year they played together.]

In 15 games this last season ndsu passed the ball 257 times, that equals roughly 17 passes a game, ndsu ran the ball 678 times which comes to roughly running the ball 45 imes a game..that is about 2.6. running plays to 1 passing play.. [See above comment.]

Does that make any sense to you now why he wasn't putting up big numbers? ....[See above comment.]

Are you still afraid to take my offer on where Watson, toure and akem go in the upcoming nfl draft...or are you a little.. [I am not afraid of anything with regard to you. I think you're an idiot.]

Don't back down now... instead of running your mouth, back it up. [Are you willing to admit that Toure/Akem were way more productive in receiving than Watson was?]

See my responses above in brackets.

As far as your last response in brackets above, I explained it as easy so that a 1st grader could understand... You are arguing just to argue, but in this case trolling just to troll..

After all this back and forth with you, all you have proven is you have no confidence in your ex-griz players.... I'm done with you...

 

[CDAGRIZ]

See my responses above in brackets.

As far as your last response in brackets above, I explained it as easy so that a 1st grader could understand... You are arguing just to argue, but in this case trolling just to troll..

After all this back and forth with you, all you have proven is you have no confidence in your ex-griz players.... I'm done with you...

I could see Watson as a mid-third rounder. More likely fourth. He just hasn’t shown me that he has what it takes to go higher.