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mthoopsfan

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NFL running backs are the lowest paid position group or among the lowest paid. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-kicker-running-back-salary-average/cq4vd3syoteuz5nep05yx94k

McCaffery is the highest paid back. Depending on source, either $16 million or $12 million. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/christian-mccaffrey-21749/

Brock Purdy:

$985,000

Here's a full year-by-year breakout of Purdy's contract according Over The Cap: 2022: $705,000. 2023: $870,000. 2024: $985,000.

Top NIL valuations (probably not apples to apples). James, Sanders, Dunne. 5.8. 4.7. 3.5. Than Manning, Hunter, Ewers, Reese.

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/

Tru Johbsonb - 14 million, 17 mil, 14.5 mil. Last year was 2019, I believe. I see he had a $20 million bonus one year.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/trumaine-johnson-9875/

Carson Beck of Georgia is top 10 in NIL. Just boought a $270,000 car.

https://brobible.com/sports/article/carson-beck-lamborghini-nil-lamb-truck-cost-performante/

Caitlyn Clark scoring:

"The Hawkeyes' superstar has 3,489 points and needs 39 to pass Kelsey Plum's total of 3,527 for Washington from 2013-17. Clark, who scored 27 in a 111-93 win over Penn State in Iowa's last game, is averaging 32.2 points.2 hours ago"

Angel Reese is 21, 6',3", 165. Scoring 19 this season, 23 last year, missed games early in the season due to something other than an injury.

"Alex Singleton signed a 3 year, $18,000,000 contract with the Denver Broncos, including a $4,000,000 signing bonus, $9,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $6,000,000. In 2024, Singleton will earn a base salary of $5,490,000, while carrying a cap hit of $7,333,333 and a dead cap value of $5,666,667".

5th year lawyers in big NYC law firms:$550,000.

Hoopsfan. 0.0.

30 second spot at Super Bowl: $7 million Celebrities in the ads can make more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/09/media/what-celebrities-are-paid-for-super-bowl-ads/index.html

Super Bowl tiks: "As of Wednesday, the average price of tickets sold on StubHub was $8,600, down from about $9,300 on Monday. Last week, seats were going for more than $12,000 on Seat Geek. Average ticket prices are on par with the 2022 LA Super Bowl, StubHub said.2 days ago"

Lowest price face value of Super Bowl tickets, $2,000.
 
Super Bowl payouts.

"players on the winning team earn an extra $164,000 for playing in the Super Bowl, while players on the losing team earn $89,000. Next year, it’s set to rise to $171,000."

"This is on top of the $73,000 bonus that Chiefs and Niners players have already bagged for being conference champions, plus other sizable playoffs bonuses earned along the way."

"Players who get injured during the regular season, and are therefore dropped from the team’s active and inactive lists, could also get a quarter or half of the full bonus (depending on how many games they played, how many years they’ve been in the league, the status of their contract, and other factors)."

https://thehill.com/business/4460608-super-bowl-bonus-heres-how-much-winners-and-losers-get-paid/
 
It is crazy how much a single game cost, can it really be that much fun? I would rather spend a week on St. John Island in USVIs.
And it is insane how much some of these people make, but comparatively it is insane how little Purdy makes and he is a class act unlike some other whining players.

What does Clark make from the NIL vs how much she will make in the WNBA?
 
NativeGriz said:
It is crazy how much a single game cost, can it really be that much fun? I would rather spend a week on St. John Island in USVIs.
And it is insane how much some of these people make, but comparatively it is insane how little Purdy makes and he is a class act unlike some other whining players.

What does Clark make from the NIL vs how much she will make in the WNBA?
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Clarke makes roughly according to this around $775,000, angel reese of LSU makes around 1.7 million in her nil deal.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/2023/12/12/caitlin-clark-nil-deal-with-gatorade/71894635007/%23:~:text%3DLSU%2520Women%27s%2520Basketball%2520Player%2520Angel%2520Reese%26text%3DOn3%27s%2520NIL%2520metric%2520has%2520Reese,SI%2520Swimsuit%252C%2520and%2520Raisin%2520Cane.&ved=2ahUKEwjnkO-O9qaEAxXaJDQIHdH-CJQQFnoECBoQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2JDgXnAKJ_FB8MtdTuPAxE
 
Here is what a wnba rookie is structured to make...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2023/04/11/2023-wnba-season-rookie-salary-scale/%23:~:text%3DPicks%25201%252D4%2520will%2520make,apart%2520from%2520the%2520base%2520salary.&ved=2ahUKEwiSuOK596aEAxW-ATQIHfqDCisQFnoECBkQBQ&usg=AOvVaw0N2wmTR4wSr5WjKNJfdYa3
 
"123.4 million viewers

Record-Setting Viewership

Super Bowl LVIII is the most-watched program ever, averaging 123.4 million viewers across all platforms, up +7% versus last year's Super Bowl which was the previous record (115.1 million)."

"More than 200 million viewers (202.4) watched all-or-part of Super Bowl LVIII across all networks, the highest unduplicated total audience in history and up +10% versus last year's Super Bowl (183.6 million)."

https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/super-bowl-lviii-is-most-watched-telecast-in-history/#:~:text=Record%2DSetting%20Viewership,previous%20record%20(115.1%20million).

"But the big game's viewership still pales in comparison to a TV event that took place more than a half century ago: The Apollo 11 moon landing, as Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin became the first humans to step foot on the lunar surface.

After a four-day trip to reach the moon, the Lunar Module landed on July 20, 1969. According to the National Air and Space Museum, among other sources, an estimated 650 million people around the globe watched as Armstrong proclaimed, "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." An estimated 125 million to 150 million Americans watched the astronauts set foot on the moon, according to multiple published reports."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/super-bowl-2024-viewership-ratings/
 
"Caitlin Clark Has Scored 3,569 Points—and Taken $0 From Boosters

The Iowa guard just broke the NCAA women’s scoring record. But the most eye-popping number of her career may be that she’s been paid nothing by school boosters."

Headline of an article in today's Wall St. Journal.
 
mthoopsfan said:
"123.4 million viewers


""...an estimated 650 million people around the globe watched as Armstrong proclaimed, "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/super-bowl-2024-viewership-ratings/
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Fifty-four years ago, and CBS misquotes Armstrong. He said, 'That's one small step for 'A' man...' I don't know how many times he was asked about the quote, and corrected the quote to what he really said. A problem in the audio feed somewhere between the Moon and Houston, the 'A' got dropped. CBS's junior high cub reporter managed to misquote him again, 54 years later. :roll:
 
"Michigan Makes NFL History Sending Record Number of Players to Draft Combine"

18 players invited.

https://apple.news/Ailn-ALbtRYWQXiIS1lj2lg
 
mthoopsfan said:
"Michigan Makes NFL History Sending Record Number of Players to Draft Combine"

18 players invited.

https://apple.news/Ailn-ALbtRYWQXiIS1lj2lg
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I assume Harbaugh sent an assistant coach to find out the time and location before all the other schools. ;)
 
“Harvard Alumni Are Going After a New Target: the Football Coach,”

https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/harvard-football-coach-andrew-aurich-46a17c58

"Athletic director Erin McDermott led the hunt for a successor, which culminated Monday with an announcement that Andrew Aurich would be the Crimson’s new leader. Aurich, previously the tight ends coach at Rutgers, was chosen over two Harvard assistants who together had more than four decades of experience coaching in Cambridge, Mass.

Nothing about that decision or the process that led up to it was satisfactory to the dozens of former Harvard football players who have written impassioned letters to the university administration and threatened to withhold future donations to the team. First, they tried to block the hire after the student newspaper reported that Aurich had been tabbed to succeed Murphy. Now that the university has made things official, alumni are demanding greater transparency into a search they say was bungled.

“It smells of some kind of sham process,” said Joe Mattson, who played for the Crimson in the 1990s. “There is no other explanation for hiring an unsuccessful tight end coach from a really crappy program.”

Short of a blockbuster name, there were two highly qualified candidates lying in wait: defensive coordinator Scott Larkee and assistant head coach Joel Lamb, both Harvard graduates and coordinators.

Once McDermott narrowed the field to four finalists—the two Harvard assistants, South Carolina analyst Sean Ryan and Aurich—it left some Crimson supporters scratching their heads. None of the candidates had ever been a head coach before, though all had ties to the Ivy League. Ryan spent one season coaching the junior varsity football team at Harvard in 2006. Aurich was an offensive lineman at Princeton in the early 2000s and coached there from 2013-19.

“I think Harvard could have gotten the best and the brightest,” Gilman said. “And I don’t think they did that here.”

Several alums expressed frustration that McDermott didn’t consult Murphy, the outgoing coach, before naming his successor.

Alumni staged a quasi-revolt in an unsuccessful bid to block Aurich’s hire. Many sent letters to McDermott, attacking Aurich’s credentials and urging her to reconsider. Gilman wrote, “Let the words ring out from the vaulted ceiling of Memorial Hall to the catacombs of Widener Library, ‘Do not bring a ‘Paper Tiger’ into Dillon Fieldhouse!’”

Several former players, including Mattson, have said they will no longer give to Crimson football. McDermott said she was not concerned about losing donors. “People say a lot of things when they’re in a moment and they haven’t had the chance to fully digest things,” she said.

Then, on Feb. 12, Harvard made it official with Aurich. Many miffed alumni have said they are reluctantly falling in line behind Aurich because they don’t wish ill upon their former team.

In the meantime, the only thing the Crimson faithful want more than another Ivy League title is greater transparency from McDermott. “This isn’t the C.I.A. This is a football coach,” said Jim Bell, a defensive tackle in the 1980s. “Tell us what went into this.”
 
Ohio St. is hogging a lot of qb's.

"Ohio State’s 2024 quarterback room is loaded with talent. And I mean loaded, loaded...

Will Howard, a four-star transfer from Kansas State
Devin Brown, a four-star recruit from Gilbert, Arizona
Lincoln Kienholz, a four-star recruit from Pierre, South Dakota
Air Noland, a five-star recruit from Fairburn, Georgia
Julian Sayin, a five-star transfer from Alabama"

"5-Star QB Air Noland Signs With Ohio State Buckeyes
The Ohio State Buckeyes have officially signed five-star quarterback Air Noland, one of the best players in the 2024 class."

"The Buckeyes have one of the country's strongest quarterback rooms, with five talented quarterbacks currently on scholarship on the roster. The five are Will Howard, who came to Ohio State from Kansas State through the transfer portal as well as returning Ohio State quarterbacks Devin Brown and Lincoln Kienholz. Via the Buckeyes 2024 recruiting class, Air Noland enrolled at Ohio State in January, and 2024 quarterback Julian Sayin, who signed with Alabama but entered the transfer portal after Nick Saban retired, transferred to and enrolled at Ohio State in January.

The Buckeyes also have their 2025 quarterback recruiting taking care of with a commitment from one of the country's elite quarterbacks in that class, Tavien St. Clair, who committed to Ohio State during the summer.

All of this allows the Buckeyes to concentrate their quarterback recruiting mainly on the class of 2026. Previously, they had offered three class of 2026 quarterbacks a scholarship: Jared Curtis, Will Griffin and Julian Lewis, who has since reclassified to the class of 2025."

"The Buckeyes have also now offered a scholarship to another class of 2026 quarterback, Brady Smigiel, from Newbury Park, California. This is the first quarterback offer the Buckeyes have made since Chip Kelly has taken over as Ryan Day’s offensive coordinator.

“Coach (Chip) Kelly offered,” Smigiel said. “It’s very exciting. The school, the program and the tradition is awesome. I can't wait to get out there. Ohio State has a great football program and Alumni network for life after football."
 
The former Indiana qb who almost came to UM a year ago.

"Michigan QB Jack Tuttle Granted Seventh Season of Eligibility by NCAA, per Report

The Wolverines’ youthful 2024 team will boast one of the sport’s longest-tenured players."

Sports Illustrated: https://apple.news/APWg0wrlgT7OR9tVZv25Fsg
 
"LSU Tigers women's basketball star Flau'Jae Johnson knows all about these new opportunities for college athletes. According to On3, the sophomore guard's NIL valuation is at $1.1 million, which is third-highest among females in college sports and 16th overall. Only LSU gymnast Livvy Dunne ($3.5 million) and teammate Angel Reese ($1.7 million) are higher on the list.

Women's college basketball has many stars, which also include the projected No. 1 pick in the 2024 WNBA Draft, Iowa's Caitlin Clark, whose valuation is at $910,000. So, when the average salary in the league is around $147,000, there are some who wonder if going pro is beneficial for these types of stars."

[Clark has another year of college eligibility.]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/lsu-star-flaujae-johnson-reveals-what-she-wants-from-wnba-before-turning-pro

"LSU star Flau'Jae Johnson reveals what she wants to see from WNBA before turning pro"
 
"Michigan football player offered $1.7 million to transfer, per report"

"College football's transfer portal is in the middle of its busiest offseason, but Michigan football has only suffered one player exit since naming veteran assistant coach Sherrone Moore its new head coach this spring. That's not to say other programs haven't tried poaching some of the Wolverines' best talent, however."

https://apple.news/AlENxKQXcRxG0JzVdeCG5QQ
 
From a former fairly big-time football coach friend. This was from an email discussion a group was having. This guy is still in the know.

"The problem with all of this is a total lack of leadership.

The NCAA has had about nine bouts over the last couple of years in court, and has lost them all. Their credibility is gone, and the next big step to get this figured out is for the power five to break away, hire their own executive team, model themselves after the NFL, which will deal with the contracts that you are talking about, and when that makes sense, the rest of college athletics should start to fall into line.

The reason why this is going to be such a long process is because when they finally announced NIL 2-1/2 years ago, the NCAA totally abdicated its responsibility and was nowhere to be found."
 
mthoopsfan said:
From a former fairly big-time football coach friend. This was from an email discussion a group was having. This guy is still in the know.

"The problem with all of this is a total lack of leadership.

The NCAA has had about nine bouts over the last couple of years in court, and has lost them all. Their credibility is gone, and the next big step to get this figured out is for the power five to break away, hire their own executive team, model themselves after the NFL, which will deal with the contracts that you are talking about, and when that makes sense, the rest of college athletics should start to fall into line.

The reason why this is going to be such a long process is because when they finally announced NIL 2-1/2 years ago, the NCAA totally abdicated its responsibility and was nowhere to be found."
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All of that takes total sense to me, and I totally agree that it's about leadership (lack thereof).

But here's the problem (which I do not see discussed much): Across the board of D-I, the vast majority of the organizations involved are State-mandated and (mostly) supported institutions. How will an "NFL model" – whatever that is – play with all those legislatures and the people who vote for them? Granted, a few universities have associated themselves with "commercial" or at least outside+private interests (thru business development parks and the like). But what business model creates a football team of supposed college students who are essentially playing for a farm team for the pros? Knowing, of course, that most will never play pro ball at any level. Beats Hell out of me.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
mthoopsfan said:
From a former fairly big-time football coach friend. This was from an email discussion a group was having. This guy is still in the know.

"The problem with all of this is a total lack of leadership.

The NCAA has had about nine bouts over the last couple of years in court, and has lost them all. Their credibility is gone, and the next big step to get this figured out is for the power five to break away, hire their own executive team, model themselves after the NFL, which will deal with the contracts that you are talking about, and when that makes sense, the rest of college athletics should start to fall into line.

The reason why this is going to be such a long process is because when they finally announced NIL 2-1/2 years ago, the NCAA totally abdicated its responsibility and was nowhere to be found."
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All of that takes total sense to me, and I totally agree that it's about leadership (lack thereof).

But here's the problem (which I do not see discussed much): Across the board of D-I, the vast majority of the organizations involved are State-mandated and (mostly) supported institutions. How will an "NFL model" – whatever that is – play with all those legislatures and the people who vote for them? Granted, a few universities have associated themselves with "commercial" or at least outside+private interests (thru business development parks and the like). But what business model creates a football team of supposed college students who are essentially playing for a farm team for the pros? Knowing, of course, that most will never play pro ball at any level. Beats Hell out of me.
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I completely agree with the concerns in your last para. That has been my big concern all along, with this possible path to the future as well as NIL. Just doesn't seem to fit with the college model, or state legislatures, or amateurism. Sure, many schools are already beyond that, but most aren't.

Also, revenue diverted to "pay" college athletes, reduces amount of football (maybe basketball) excess funds that are or can be used to fund other sports (or even the university, I suppose). I'm concerned that this direction/trend will eventually severely hurt the bulk of college athletics, including non-top/Power 5 schools and low-revenue sports. And, conference/schools like the Ivy League aren't going to embrace this. They aren't even doing NIL cooperatives. And, obviously, don't participate in the FCS playoffs either.
 
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