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Some Griz fans panic over pre-season poll

uptopgriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
Britt showed he didn’t have it. That’s why he’s was
3d team in the spring at NAU even with their starting qb to portal.

Why did the coaches recruit him then? Are they that bad at judging talent?

Talent doesn't always pan out. Britt was considered a hell of a high school player, and he was. He was undersized, but had some fight in him and pulled off some big things for his high school. Unfortunately, not every guy who gets recruited works out. It happens at every school, every year. It happens for every NFL team, too. Some guys never rise to their potential, some guys rise far beyond where you expect them to.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
They looked way better than the Bobs. Definitely would’ve won going away but-for the gifts. Four of them, right? Eight points, four new possessions, won by five?

Conveniently forgotten. Weebs coach F'd up, leaving that long snapper in the game. One bad snap, chance. Two long snaps, is time to get ANYBODY else. He is left in and f*cks up two more snaps. Where the hell was their coach???

Remember the Montana-Idaho State game and the LOOOOOOG snap by ISU, which won the game for the Griz. Mike Kramer, never for the loss of words, was eloquent. I paraphrase, "He snapped the ball so hard, I'm surprised there isn't a hole in the wall."
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
uptopgriz said:
Why did the coaches recruit him then? Are they that bad at judging talent?

That was the year that Vidlak verbally committed to the Griz and then decommitted after he got an offer from Oregon State. So the coaches had to find a different quarterback. Enter Britt.

Y'all act like you never had to take the slightly strange drama and choir girl to the dance because the head cheerleader that you wanted to take turned you down. Sometimes you get what you want. Sometimes you get second best. (Although It's my contention that the weird drama girl would prove to be better in the long run because at least you'd have an interesting relationship. Beautiful, vain, and vapid cheerleaders are a dime a dozen. But that's not football.)
You had me at "vapid"
 
SaskGriz said:
Bear Spray said:
What game were you watching? Total yards 487 vs 338 MSU. TOP 37.45 vs 22:15 MSU. First downs 25 to 19, again MSU. Weber rushed for 71 yards in 41 attempts, so I guess that's some real manhandling there. They did pass for more yards, 151 vs 140. Weber scored on 2 early special team returns for td's. They score again after a broken pass play early in the second quarter. After that they were pummeled until late in the 4th quarter.
Those are awesome numbers and a great argument for the CAT board. You a little bored tonight? Is there a CAT board?

You sir are correct. They're also a great argument for CDA who posted that Weber manhandled the Cats. If you don't want any points of view that differ from yours start a petition to limit who can post on Egriz. Should make for fascinating banter.
 
Bear Spray said:
SaskGriz said:
Those are awesome numbers and a great argument for the CAT board. You a little bored tonight? Is there a CAT board?

You sir are correct. They're also a great argument for CDA who posted that Weber manhandled the Cats. If you don't want any points of view that differ from yours start a petition to limit who can post on Egriz. Should make for fascinating banter.

I disagree with your point of view that they are a great argument against the fact that Weebs manhandled the Bobs.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
uptopgriz said:
Why did the coaches recruit him then? Are they that bad at judging talent?

Talent doesn't always pan out. Britt was considered a hell of a high school player, and he was. He was undersized, but had some fight in him and pulled off some big things for his high school. Unfortunately, not every guy who gets recruited works out. It happens at every school, every year. It happens for every NFL team, too. Some guys never rise to their potential, some guys rise far beyond where you expect them to.

Britt got lots of press because he played on the Nevada state champs. Several of his teammates were 3-star and two 4-star Rivals players. He was rated a 2-star by Rivals, but received only two FCS offers...... Eastern Kentucky and Montana. It is interesting that none of the other Big Sky schools offered him, since he played in the West.

https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/daniel-britt-247449?view=pv
 
thirdandlong said:
ElrodGrizzly said:
Talent doesn't always pan out. Britt was considered a hell of a high school player, and he was. He was undersized, but had some fight in him and pulled off some big things for his high school. Unfortunately, not every guy who gets recruited works out. It happens at every school, every year. It happens for every NFL team, too. Some guys never rise to their potential, some guys rise far beyond where you expect them to.

Britt got lots of press because he played on the Nevada state champs. Several of his teammates were 3-star and two 4-star Rivals players. He was rated a 2-star by Rivals, but received only two FCS offers...... Eastern Kentucky and Montana. It is interesting that none of the other Big Sky schools offered him, since he played in the West.

https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/daniel-britt-247449?view=pv

Britt was the straggler that UM went home with after the girl they brought dumped them for the high school stud.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Bear Spray said:
You sir are correct. They're also a great argument for CDA who posted that Weber manhandled the Cats. If you don't want any points of view that differ from yours start a petition to limit who can post on Egriz. Should make for fascinating banter.

I disagree with your point of view that they are a great argument against the fact that Weebs manhandled the Bobs.

Ditto. I normally don't watch scat games, but this game was the exception to the rule. I was a disappointed Wildcat fan that day. Coach gave away the game, supposedly I assume, to not destroy the confidence of his long Snapper. Thats 'knot' as in head, and Snapper as in fisheye.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enUS848US848&q=Lutjanidae&si=ACFMAn-RuLols7Cpmmm1c63YqwDqHg5PF1YUOfiWr1Cm6F7c5khuZQADFO2B_
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
uptopgriz said:
Why did the coaches recruit him then? Are they that bad at judging talent?

Talent doesn't always pan out. Britt was considered a hell of a high school player, and he was. He was undersized, but had some fight in him and pulled off some big things for his high school. Unfortunately, not every guy who gets recruited works out. It happens at every school, every year. It happens for every NFL team, too. Some guys never rise to their potential, some guys rise far beyond where you expect them to.

I missed this post, but I agree with all of it. A few college coaches in other sports have mentioned that there is a certain type of player who is used to being “the guy” and when he’s suddenly not, he starts questioning everything. He starts thinking instead of working. The bench is an unfamiliar place for him even if the coach tried to prepare him for it, and the player says it’s cool, because the player hasn’t really seen it.

I would imagine how the player will react to not being “the guy” (working versus questioning) is probably the toughest thing to predetermine in recruiting. I’m not saying Britt did either; it’s more of a general thing I found interesting.

It’s always why I have a lot of respect for Brown. He doesn’t have the talent to be a starter at this level, and he probably knows that more than anyone. But it sounds like he’s worked his ass off to become the best QB2/3 he can possibly be. I think coaches notice things like that, and it reflects on the depth chart if the competition is at all close.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
ElrodGrizzly said:
Talent doesn't always pan out. Britt was considered a hell of a high school player, and he was. He was undersized, but had some fight in him and pulled off some big things for his high school. Unfortunately, not every guy who gets recruited works out. It happens at every school, every year. It happens for every NFL team, too. Some guys never rise to their potential, some guys rise far beyond where you expect them to.

I missed this post, but I agree with all of it. A few college coaches in other sports have mentioned that there is a certain type of player who is used to being “the guy” and when he’s suddenly not, he starts questioning everything. He starts thinking instead of working. The bench is an unfamiliar place for him even if the coach tried to prepare him for it, and the player says it’s cool, because the player hasn’t really seen it.

I would imagine how the player will react to not being “the guy” (working versus questioning) is probably the toughest thing to predetermine in recruiting. I’m not saying Britt did either; it’s more of a general thing I found interesting.

It’s always why I have a lot of respect for Brown. He doesn’t have the talent to be a starter at this level, and he probably knows that more than anyone. But it sounds like he’s worked his ass off to become the best QB2/3 he can possibly be. I think coaches notice things like that, and it reflects on the depth chart if the competition is at all close.

Not trying to start a lovefest here, but I agree with those points and it reminded me of an article I read about Britt when he was coming in. He talked about his terrible facial injury, and how it left him missing sports and thinking about life where he wasn't the QB on the football team, and how depressed that made him. He was probably very used to being the stud that people looked to, and rightfully so. Going from that to third string, well, that was probably really hard. That really plays in to the point you made. It also didn't help that his Girlfriend was down there. I saw a video where it was mentioned that she was down there, and I'd heard he wanted to get closer to her. I'm sure all of that was hard for a kid at 18. If I'm honest, I don't know how I would have handled that at his age, either. Probably worse.

I never trash Kris Brown, either, and have a lot of respect for what he has done. He is a better athlete than I ever was, and he has put a lot more effort into this program than I have ever put into it, so its hard for me to criticize him on a message board. He is also providing REAL value to the new guys by being a brain that knows the system and knows the program. I know at one practice in the spring Pease definitely told him to "get in there and show them how to run this play." The game hasn't clicked and slowed down for him. There is no shame in that and it isn't his fault, by all accounts he is a hard working kid. He probably wasn't ready for prime time when he has been thrown in, but he also didn't tuck his tail and run. He has so far decided to stick it out and give it his all. I respect that.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I missed this post, but I agree with all of it. A few college coaches in other sports have mentioned that there is a certain type of player who is used to being “the guy” and when he’s suddenly not, he starts questioning everything. He starts thinking instead of working. The bench is an unfamiliar place for him even if the coach tried to prepare him for it, and the player says it’s cool, because the player hasn’t really seen it.

I would imagine how the player will react to not being “the guy” (working versus questioning) is probably the toughest thing to predetermine in recruiting. I’m not saying Britt did either; it’s more of a general thing I found interesting.

It’s always why I have a lot of respect for Brown. He doesn’t have the talent to be a starter at this level, and he probably knows that more than anyone. But it sounds like he’s worked his ass off to become the best QB2/3 he can possibly be. I think coaches notice things like that, and it reflects on the depth chart if the competition is at all close.

Not trying to start a lovefest here, but I agree with those points and it reminded me of an article I read about Britt when he was coming in. He talked about his terrible facial injury, and how it left him missing sports and thinking about life where he wasn't the QB on the football team, and how depressed that made him. He was probably very used to being the stud that people looked to, and rightfully so. Going from that to third string, well, that was probably really hard. That really plays in to the point you made. It also didn't help that his Girlfriend was down there. I saw a video where it was mentioned that she was down there, and I'd heard he wanted to get closer to her. I'm sure all of that was hard for a kid at 18. If I'm honest, I don't know how I would have handled that at his age, either. Probably worse.

I never trash Kris Brown, either, and have a lot of respect for what he has done. He is a better athlete than I ever was, and he has put a lot more effort into this program than I have ever put into it, so its hard for me to criticize him on a message board. He is also providing REAL value to the new guys by being a brain that knows the system and knows the program. I know at one practice in the spring Pease definitely told him to "get in there and show them how to run this play." The game hasn't clicked and slowed down for him. There is no shame in that and it isn't his fault, by all accounts he is a hard working kid. He probably wasn't ready for prime time when he has been thrown in, but he also didn't tuck his tail and run. He has so far decided to stick it out and give it his all. I respect that.

Fantastic post. I don’t know the man, but I sure as hell respect him for what he’s done to help the Griz program to the best of his ability.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
ElrodGrizzly said:
Not trying to start a lovefest here, but I agree with those points and it reminded me of an article I read about Britt when he was coming in. He talked about his terrible facial injury, and how it left him missing sports and thinking about life where he wasn't the QB on the football team, and how depressed that made him. He was probably very used to being the stud that people looked to, and rightfully so. Going from that to third string, well, that was probably really hard. That really plays in to the point you made. It also didn't help that his Girlfriend was down there. I saw a video where it was mentioned that she was down there, and I'd heard he wanted to get closer to her. I'm sure all of that was hard for a kid at 18. If I'm honest, I don't know how I would have handled that at his age, either. Probably worse.

I never trash Kris Brown, either, and have a lot of respect for what he has done. He is a better athlete than I ever was, and he has put a lot more effort into this program than I have ever put into it, so its hard for me to criticize him on a message board. He is also providing REAL value to the new guys by being a brain that knows the system and knows the program. I know at one practice in the spring Pease definitely told him to "get in there and show them how to run this play." The game hasn't clicked and slowed down for him. There is no shame in that and it isn't his fault, by all accounts he is a hard working kid. He probably wasn't ready for prime time when he has been thrown in, but he also didn't tuck his tail and run. He has so far decided to stick it out and give it his all. I respect that.

Fantastic post. I don’t know the man, but I sure as hell respect him for what he’s done to help the Griz program to the best of his ability.

I don't know him either, to be clear. I don't want to pretend I have an insider take on that. I'm excited to see where the offense goes this next year though.
 
I agree with all the positive comments on Brown. He's my kind of team player. I thought he would do better last season. I wished he had been able to do better in the 2 big games. Both for himself and the Griz. Brown will go far in life. I don't know him, but I've talked to him. He's a very nice guy. My Bozeman nephew also knows and likes him.
 
There is nothing not to like about KB. I guarantee he makes players around him better.

Honestly, he is the kind of dude built for coaching....rarely do superstars excel in teaching others.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
uptopgriz said:
Why did the coaches recruit him then? Are they that bad at judging talent?

Talent doesn't always pan out. Britt was considered a hell of a high school player, and he was. He was undersized, but had some fight in him and pulled off some big things for his high school. Unfortunately, not every guy who gets recruited works out. It happens at every school, every year. It happens for every NFL team, too. Some guys never rise to their potential, some guys rise far beyond where you expect them to.

It happens with nearly every QB recruited by BH.
 
uptopgriz said:
ElrodGrizzly said:
Talent doesn't always pan out. Britt was considered a hell of a high school player, and he was. He was undersized, but had some fight in him and pulled off some big things for his high school. Unfortunately, not every guy who gets recruited works out. It happens at every school, every year. It happens for every NFL team, too. Some guys never rise to their potential, some guys rise far beyond where you expect them to.

It happens with nearly every QB recruited by BH.

Like Bergquist and Selle? Hauck said, in a recent article, that the qb competition in pre-season would be Brown and the 2 other transfers.
 
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