Skyline Sports Article on Semore and the Defense

[PlayerRep]

I seriously hope he can come up with an answer to the triple option. I think a win here will be more largely decided on our offense.

Not sure if there is a definitive answer for the triple option.

With a 3-5 record for Cal Poly last year in the Big Sky, I'd say just about everybody except us had at least "an" answer if not the "definitive" one. The "Triple Option" as played last year was one of the worst offensive schemes in the conference -- if results matter. If MSU's defense could hold it in check last year, is there any question that our's should do a good job this year?

Whoops. There you go again. In Cal Poly's 5 league losses last year, they scored 28, 41, 35, 37 and 21 points. ALL more points than scored against the Griz. In other words, as I've tried to get certain posters around here to understand, the loss last year was NOT a defensive loss....our defense did just fine "holding it in check last year"....more so than just about anybody else on Cal Poly's schedule. Hell, CP scored more points against Arizona State University than they did against the Griz.

Isn't that what 75 also said?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Poly averaged 38+ points and 515 yards in conference play last year. Twasn't the offense that was the issue..

And yes I agree, win/loss is the ultimate indicator; however, trying to lay that at the feet of Poly's offense does not seem fair.

How do you counter a good offense?

1) Counter their offense with a defense.
2) Score more points with your offense.

Both are "strategies" to counter a consistent, good offense. Either or both are "an" answer.

In Conference play, Cal Poly got big scores at Idaho State (58) and UC Davis (55).

Cal Poly's offense did less well at Montana (20), Montana State (28), Southern Utah (37), Sac State (36), PSU (35) and North Dakota (21).

Are we now defining 37, 36 and 35 points scored as "less well"? :? :?
I think if UM's offense could do that "less well" this year we'll go 15-0.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Not sure if there is a definitive answer for the triple option.

With a 3-5 record for Cal Poly last year in the Big Sky, I'd say just about everybody except us had at least "an" answer if not the "definitive" one. The "Triple Option" as played last year was one of the worst offensive schemes in the conference -- if results matter. If MSU's defense could hold it in check last year, is there any question that our's should do a good job this year?

Whoops. There you go again. In Cal Poly's 5 league losses last year, they scored 28, 41, 35, 37 and 21 points. ALL more points than scored against the Griz. In other words, as I've tried to get certain posters around here to understand, the loss last year was NOT a defensive loss....our defense did just fine "holding it in check last year"....more so than just about anybody else on Cal Poly's schedule. Hell, CP scored more points against Arizona State University than they did against the Griz.

Isn't that what 75 also said?

Not remotely. He specifically used MSU as an example of "holding them in check", when they gave up more points than UM did. He also referenced their 5 league losses as if that were indicative of teams having "an" answer". When, in fact, in EVERY loss CP scored more points than they did in their win against the Griz....and in some cases significantly more.

 

[Mavman]

Stats don't matter to me at this point. If you don't get excited watching this defense fly to the ball making big hits then you are crazy. The way they stuffed a very good UNI rushing attack and continued to hit their QB was awesome. Don't forget the way the DB's played, great position able to knowkdown passes!
Lot's of egriz posters voiced concern about Stitt not being able to put a good defense on the field when he got here, well he has an awesome DC and has filled holes in the defense and may have the best D in the big sky.

Stats may not matter to you, but if you are going to properly analyze and assess a defense, stats are one of multiple things that must be looked at. Do you not careful about sacks, interceptions, takeaways, missed tackles, red zone defense, 3d down conversion defense, etc? No If a team wins then NO
I watch to make sure a team is not out of position alot, look to see if there are alot of missed tackles.

Yes, the defense has looked good so far. Hopefully, the nice trend continues. But just like stats for 2 or 3 games does provide a complete picture, neither does the look and result of 2 or 3 games. true

I have only seen and heard good things about Semore so far. I've gotten to know him since the spring, and like him. It's interesting to hear him talk about the defense, and say how offenses should or could be attacked. Never talked to him prob never will.

Contrary to what you said, I don't recall anyone wondering if Stitt could put together a good defense. Maybe I missed that. UM has generally had good defenses. The defense last year was good, except for a few games. The defense under TG was right at or near the top of the conference over his several year period as DC. alot of talk during recruiting that he was only looking at the offensive side of the ball too many receivers etc....

Hopefully, Semore has the answer for the CP offense. I suppose point could be based on what UM's D did last year against CP. Maybe Semore has a different and better plan.

I thought the defense played great against Poly last year!

 

[PlayerRep]

With a 3-5 record for Cal Poly last year in the Big Sky, I'd say just about everybody except us had at least "an" answer if not the "definitive" one. The "Triple Option" as played last year was one of the worst offensive schemes in the conference -- if results matter. If MSU's defense could hold it in check last year, is there any question that our's should do a good job this year?

Whoops. There you go again. In Cal Poly's 5 league losses last year, they scored 28, 41, 35, 37 and 21 points. ALL more points than scored against the Griz. In other words, as I've tried to get certain posters around here to understand, the loss last year was NOT a defensive loss....our defense did just fine "holding it in check last year"....more so than just about anybody else on Cal Poly's schedule. Hell, CP scored more points against Arizona State University than they did against the Griz.

Isn't that what 75 also said?

Not remotely. He specifically used MSU as an example of "holding them in check", when they gave up more points than UM did. He also referenced their 5 league losses as if that were indicative of teams having "an" answer". When, in fact, in EVERY loss CP scored more points than they did in their win against the Griz....and in some cases significantly more.

Here's what 75 said above:

"HelenaHandBasket wrote:
But my point was, even though the Griz lost to Poly, the Griz defense did quite well against them.

75 wrote:
This is a point I have made several times. What's your point?"

To make it clearer, 75 endorsed HHH's comment (Griz defense did quite well against them), and said he'd made that point several times.

"GRIZ DEFENSE DID QUITE WELL AGAINST CP." AZ, how can you interpret that anyway other than what it says?

 

[PlayerRep]

Stats don't matter to me at this point. If you don't get excited watching this defense fly to the ball making big hits then you are crazy. The way they stuffed a very good UNI rushing attack and continued to hit their QB was awesome. Don't forget the way the DB's played, great position able to knowkdown passes!
Lot's of egriz posters voiced concern about Stitt not being able to put a good defense on the field when he got here, well he has an awesome DC and has filled holes in the defense and may have the best D in the big sky.

Stats may not matter to you, but if you are going to properly analyze and assess a defense, stats are one of multiple things that must be looked at. Do you not careful about sacks, interceptions, takeaways, missed tackles, red zone defense, 3d down conversion defense, etc? No If a team wins then NO
I watch to make sure a team is not out of position alot, look to see if there are alot of missed tackles.

Yes, the defense has looked good so far. Hopefully, the nice trend continues. But just like stats for 2 or 3 games does provide a complete picture, neither does the look and result of 2 or 3 games. true

I have only seen and heard good things about Semore so far. I've gotten to know him since the spring, and like him. It's interesting to hear him talk about the defense, and say how offenses should or could be attacked. Never talked to him prob never will.

Contrary to what you said, I don't recall anyone wondering if Stitt could put together a good defense. Maybe I missed that. UM has generally had good defenses. The defense last year was good, except for a few games. The defense under TG was right at or near the top of the conference over his several year period as DC. alot of talk during recruiting that he was only looking at the offensive side of the ball too many receivers etc....

Hopefully, Semore has the answer for the CP offense. I suppose point could be based on what UM's D did last year against CP. Maybe Semore has a different and better plan.

I thought the defense played great against Poly last year!

Yes, I saw your earlier post on that subject, and completely agreed with it.

 

[Mavman]

Stats don't matter to me at this point. If you don't get excited watching this defense fly to the ball making big hits then you are crazy. The way they stuffed a very good UNI rushing attack and continued to hit their QB was awesome. Don't forget the way the DB's played, great position able to knowkdown passes!
Lot's of egriz posters voiced concern about Stitt not being able to put a good defense on the field when he got here, well he has an awesome DC and has filled holes in the defense and may have the best D in the big sky.

Stats may not matter to you, but if you are going to properly analyze and assess a defense, stats are one of multiple things that must be looked at. Do you not careful about sacks, interceptions, takeaways, missed tackles, red zone defense, 3d down conversion defense, etc? [/color]No If a team wins then NO
I watch to make sure a team is not out of position alot, look to see if there are alot of missed tackles.

Yes, the defense has looked good so far. Hopefully, the nice trend continues. But just like stats for 2 or 3 games does provide a complete picture, neither does the look and result of 2 or 3 games. true

I have only seen and heard good things about Semore so far. I've gotten to know him since the spring, and like him. It's interesting to hear him talk about the defense, and say how offenses should or could be attacked. Never talked to him prob never will.

Contrary to what you said, I don't recall anyone wondering if Stitt could put together a good defense. Maybe I missed that. UM has generally had good defenses. The defense last year was good, except for a few games. The defense under TG was right at or near the top of the conference over his several year period as DC. alot of talk during recruiting that he was only looking at the offensive side of the ball too many receivers etc....

Hopefully, Semore has the answer for the CP offense. I suppose point could be based on what UM's D did last year against CP. Maybe Semore has a different and better plan.

I thought the defense played great against Poly last year!

 

[Fushiznitz]

The boner he gets over this guy is strong...

When I become a moderator, you will be heading south in a hurry. Ha.

Unless this is a joke that I missed, I think you are suggesting that the site owner wants this place turned into a ghost town.

 

[reinell30]

Whoops. There you go again. In Cal Poly's 5 league losses last year, they scored 28, 41, 35, 37 and 21 points. ALL more points than scored against the Griz. In other words, as I've tried to get certain posters around here to understand, the loss last year was NOT a defensive loss....our defense did just fine "holding it in check last year"....more so than just about anybody else on Cal Poly's schedule. Hell, CP scored more points against Arizona State University than they did against the Griz.

Isn't that what 75 also said?

Not remotely. He specifically used MSU as an example of "holding them in check", when they gave up more points than UM did. He also referenced their 5 league losses as if that were indicative of teams having "an" answer". When, in fact, in EVERY loss CP scored more points than they did in their win against the Griz....and in some cases significantly more.

Here's what 75 said above:

"HelenaHandBasket wrote:
But my point was, even though the Griz lost to Poly, the Griz defense did quite well against them.

75 wrote:
This is a point I have made several times. What's your point?"

To make it clearer, 75 endorsed HHH's comment (Griz defense did quite well against them), and said he'd made that point several times.

"GRIZ DEFENSE DID QUITE WELL AGAINST CP." AZ, how can you interpret that anyway other than what it says?

Our defense last year did do fantastic against' Cal Poly except for the final drive. One tackle in bounds and the Griz win! They forgot to play the corners on that drive.

 

[PlayerRep]

The boner he gets over this guy is strong...

When I become a moderator, you will be heading south in a hurry. Ha.

Unless this is a joke that I missed, I think you are suggesting that the site owner wants this place turned into a ghost town.

I'll put you on the list under 420.

 

[grizcountry420]

The boner he gets over this guy is strong...

Are you talking about Badland's boner against TG? You provide absolutely nothing of benefit on this board. When I become a moderator, you will be heading south in a hurry. Ha.

Why is it acceptable for you to be an idiot but not for me to point it out?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

The boner he gets over this guy is strong...

Are you talking about Badland's boner against TG? You provide absolutely nothing of benefit on this board. When I become a moderator, you will be heading south in a hurry. Ha.

Why is it acceptable for you to be an idiot but not for me to point it out?

There is a double standard on this board and the moderators will do nothing about it.

 

[Fushiznitz]

The boner he gets over this guy is strong...

When I become a moderator, you will be heading south in a hurry. Ha.

Unless this is a joke that I missed, I think you are suggesting that the site owner wants this place turned into a ghost town.

I'll put you on the list under 420.

Nah. Put me at the top.

 

[grizcountry420]

When I become a moderator, you will be heading south in a hurry. Ha.

Unless this is a joke that I missed, I think you are suggesting that the site owner wants this place turned into a ghost town.

I'll put you on the list under 420.

Nah. Put me at the top.

no, you're definitely on the bottom..

 

[Fushiznitz]

Other posters are right about your avatar. It is really making it difficult for me to interpret your post.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Whoops. There you go again. In Cal Poly's 5 league losses last year, they scored 28, 41, 35, 37 and 21 points. ALL more points than scored against the Griz. In other words, as I've tried to get certain posters around here to understand, the loss last year was NOT a defensive loss....our defense did just fine "holding it in check last year"....more so than just about anybody else on Cal Poly's schedule. Hell, CP scored more points against Arizona State University than they did against the Griz.

Isn't that what 75 also said?

Not remotely. He specifically used MSU as an example of "holding them in check", when they gave up more points than UM did. He also referenced their 5 league losses as if that were indicative of teams having "an" answer". When, in fact, in EVERY loss CP scored more points than they did in their win against the Griz....and in some cases significantly more.

Here's what 75 said above:

"HelenaHandBasket wrote:
But my point was, even though the Griz lost to Poly, the Griz defense did quite well against them.

75 wrote:
This is a point I have made several times. What's your point?"

To make it clearer, 75 endorsed HHH's comment (Griz defense did quite well against them), and said he'd made that point several times.

"GRIZ DEFENSE DID QUITE WELL AGAINST CP." AZ, how can you interpret that anyway other than what it says?

Great. Then he turns around and says other teams had "an answer" when all those other teams gave up MORE points than the Griz did. So the "answer" is to have your offense score more points, particularly when your defense holds the other team to the fewest points they scored ALL YEAR. He uses MSU's win as proof that they had "an answer", but their team gave up more points. It's really not that complicated. In one set of posts he's praising the defense, then in the same thread he maligns it...

 

[Fushiznitz]

When I become a moderator, you will be heading south in a hurry. Ha.

You're a stats guy, right? You should do a poll on whether you should take the moderator job. And since you authored it, there is no way it gets locked or moved for not being relevant to the forum. Win, win.

 

[PlayerRep]

Isn't that what 75 also said?

Not remotely. He specifically used MSU as an example of "holding them in check", when they gave up more points than UM did. He also referenced their 5 league losses as if that were indicative of teams having "an" answer". When, in fact, in EVERY loss CP scored more points than they did in their win against the Griz....and in some cases significantly more.

Here's what 75 said above:

"HelenaHandBasket wrote:
But my point was, even though the Griz lost to Poly, the Griz defense did quite well against them.

75 wrote:
This is a point I have made several times. What's your point?"

To make it clearer, 75 endorsed HHH's comment (Griz defense did quite well against them), and said he'd made that point several times.

"GRIZ DEFENSE DID QUITE WELL AGAINST CP." AZ, how can you interpret that anyway other than what it says?

Great. Then he turns around and says other teams had "an answer" when all those other teams gave up MORE points than the Griz did. So the "answer" is to have your offense score more points, particularly when your defense holds the other team to the fewest points they scored ALL YEAR. He uses MSU's win as proof that they had "an answer", but their team gave up more points. It's really not that complicated. In one set of posts he's praising the defense, then in the same thread he maligns it...

Okay, I was wrong. I had assumed you were supporting Trump.

 

[reinell30]

Not remotely. He specifically used MSU as an example of "holding them in check", when they gave up more points than UM did. He also referenced their 5 league losses as if that were indicative of teams having "an" answer". When, in fact, in EVERY loss CP scored more points than they did in their win against the Griz....and in some cases significantly more.

Here's what 75 said above:

"HelenaHandBasket wrote:
But my point was, even though the Griz lost to Poly, the Griz defense did quite well against them.

75 wrote:
This is a point I have made several times. What's your point?"

To make it clearer, 75 endorsed HHH's comment (Griz defense did quite well against them), and said he'd made that point several times.

"GRIZ DEFENSE DID QUITE WELL AGAINST CP." AZ, how can you interpret that anyway other than what it says?

Great. Then he turns around and says other teams had "an answer" when all those other teams gave up MORE points than the Griz did. So the "answer" is to have your offense score more points, particularly when your defense holds the other team to the fewest points they scored ALL YEAR. He uses MSU's win as proof that they had "an answer", but their team gave up more points. It's really not that complicated. In one set of posts he's praising the defense, then in the same thread he maligns it...

Okay, I was wrong. I had assumed you were supporting Trump.

I support Trump!

 

[PlayerRep]

When I become a moderator, you will be heading south in a hurry. Ha.

You're a stats guy, right? You should do a poll on whether you should take the moderator job. And since you authored it, there is no way it gets locked or moved for not being relevant to the forum. Win, win.

Okay, let's do a poll. Every signed up egrizzer who doesn't vote in the poll will be assumed to support me as a moderator. Silent majority. I could clean this place up in a hurry. I am sure hundreds, if not thousands, of posters would come back.