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Shawn Stockton

PlayerRep said:
So being 7th in minutes and playing in every game for a D-I team, which has recently beaten UCLA and Oregon St, is not D-I quality. That is pretty funny.

I think some posters have just shown that they don't have the necessary basketball knowledge to post anything credible on a D-I message board. Time for some of you to drop down to commenting on high school hoops.

You should take a look in the mirror. PR, the problem with you is you live in fantasyland. You actually think people in Griz Athletics like you, when in reality all they do is tolerate you, because they are nice people. When you are not around, believe me, they are not complimenting you. They refer to you as a :loser: As for basketball knowledge, most people have forgotten more than you will ever know about the game.
 
PlayerRep said:
So being 7th in minutes and playing in every game for a D-I team, which has recently beaten UCLA and Oregon St, is not D-I quality. That is pretty funny.

I think some posters have just shown that they don't have the necessary basketball knowledge to post anything credible on a D-I message board. Time for some of you to drop down to commenting on high school hoops.


So, he is a RS junior, and he is 7th in minutes on the team. That makes no sense for all the back up you give SS. The only reason that SS is getting that many minutes is that VA isnt quite ready. When VA is ready, there will be a shift in minutes played.

You dig that word "credible" dont you? I question your credibility and "knowledge" on this "D-1 messageboard". Stroke your ego a little more. :clap:
 
Maynardsgametrail said:
PlayerRep said:
So being 7th in minutes and playing in every game for a D-I team, which has recently beaten UCLA and Oregon St, is not D-I quality. That is pretty funny.

I think some posters have just shown that they don't have the necessary basketball knowledge to post anything credible on a D-I message board. Time for some of you to drop down to commenting on high school hoops.


So, he is a RS junior, and he is 7th in minutes on the team. That makes no sense for all the back up you give SS. The only reason that SS is getting that many minutes is that VA isnt quite ready. When VA is ready, there will be a shift in minutes played.

You dig that word "credible" dont you? I question your credibility and "knowledge" on this "D-1 messageboard". Stroke your ego a little more. :clap:

I wouldn't be shocked if 2 members of the current roster are not back next season. I understand the walkon may have already figured out he isn't D1 and has moved on.
 
Maynardsgametrail said:
PlayerRep said:
So being 7th in minutes and playing in every game for a D-I team, which has recently beaten UCLA and Oregon St, is not D-I quality. That is pretty funny.

I think some posters have just shown that they don't have the necessary basketball knowledge to post anything credible on a D-I message board. Time for some of you to drop down to commenting on high school hoops.


So, he is a RS junior, and he is 7th in minutes on the team. That makes no sense for all the back up you give SS. The only reason that SS is getting that many minutes is that VA isnt quite ready. When VA is ready, there will be a shift in minutes played.

You dig that word "credible" dont you? I question your credibility and "knowledge" on this "D-1 messageboard". Stroke your ego a little more. :clap:

Stockton never redshirted. He's contributed in one way or another since his Freshman year. Im sure Tinks envisioned more from him in terms of contributing, but the same can be said for lots of recruits, past, present, and future, as not everyone turns out the way you would expect. Its just the nature of the game.

Stockton is a valuable member of the team in more ways than the stat sheet. Every team in America has guys like Shawn, and theyre important contributers to their teams.

When Tinks recruited Shawn he knew he wasnt the fastest, quickest, or most explosive point guard on the planet, but what he did know, was the Shawn was a winner, competitive, and always made the guys around him better. I can safely say that this is still the case today.
 
Sudzilla said:
Maynardsgametrail said:
PlayerRep said:
So being 7th in minutes and playing in every game for a D-I team, which has recently beaten UCLA and Oregon St, is not D-I quality. That is pretty funny.

I think some posters have just shown that they don't have the necessary basketball knowledge to post anything credible on a D-I message board. Time for some of you to drop down to commenting on high school hoops.


So, he is a RS junior, and he is 7th in minutes on the team. That makes no sense for all the back up you give SS. The only reason that SS is getting that many minutes is that VA isnt quite ready. When VA is ready, there will be a shift in minutes played.

You dig that word "credible" dont you? I question your credibility and "knowledge" on this "D-1 messageboard". Stroke your ego a little more. :clap:

Stockton never redshirted. He's contributed in one way or another since his Freshman year. Im sure Tinks envisioned more from him in terms of contributing, but the same can be said for lots of recruits, past, present, and future, as not everyone turns out the way you would expect. Its just the nature of the game.

Stockton is a valuable member of the team in more ways than the stat sheet. Every team in America has guys like Shawn, and theyre important contributers to their teams.

When Tinks recruited Shawn he knew he wasnt the fastest, quickest, or most explosive point guard on the planet, but what he did know, was the Shawn was a winner, competitive, and always made the guys around him better. I can safely say that this is still the case today.

Well said. I swear SS redshirted, but I am not 100% sure. I will give you that. I cant believe they played him as a true frosh.
 
Maynardsgametrail said:
Sudzilla said:
Maynardsgametrail said:
PlayerRep said:
So being 7th in minutes and playing in every game for a D-I team, which has recently beaten UCLA and Oregon St, is not D-I quality. That is pretty funny.

I think some posters have just shown that they don't have the necessary basketball knowledge to post anything credible on a D-I message board. Time for some of you to drop down to commenting on high school hoops.


So, he is a RS junior, and he is 7th in minutes on the team. That makes no sense for all the back up you give SS. The only reason that SS is getting that many minutes is that VA isnt quite ready. When VA is ready, there will be a shift in minutes played.

You dig that word "credible" dont you? I question your credibility and "knowledge" on this "D-1 messageboard". Stroke your ego a little more. :clap:

Stockton never redshirted. He's contributed in one way or another since his Freshman year. Im sure Tinks envisioned more from him in terms of contributing, but the same can be said for lots of recruits, past, present, and future, as not everyone turns out the way you would expect. Its just the nature of the game.

Stockton is a valuable member of the team in more ways than the stat sheet. Every team in America has guys like Shawn, and theyre important contributers to their teams.

When Tinks recruited Shawn he knew he wasnt the fastest, quickest, or most explosive point guard on the planet, but what he did know, was the Shawn was a winner, competitive, and always made the guys around him better. I can safely say that this is still the case today.

Well said. I swear SS redshirted, but I am not 100% sure. I will give you that. I cant believe they played him as a true frosh.

He didn't redshirt and that was to the dismay of many Griz fans. From what I remember reading on this board it wasn't Tinkle who made that decision, it was SS wanting to play right away and essentially he kinda wasted his Fr year. That's how I recall it going down.
 
Stockton played some big minutes in the Weber State comeback game last spring. He does play pretty solid "D" and makes limited mistakes. I agree that overall he's probably regarded as somewhat of a recruiting "miss" but you live with what you have and we could have worse than Stockton.

Speaking of misses, we haven't discussed Andy Garland much this year but I still think he's one of our biggest misses in years. Yes a little undersized and wouldn't dominate the BSC like he has at times at Carroll. He has led Carroll over some BSC teams (Idaho St. and EWU) the last two years. Look down the bench at a Vanny Bassy or this year Adams and it's hard to believe Andy couldn't have more impact. Mathias Ward with much more of an outside game??
 
Grizbacker1 said:
PlayerRep said:
So being 7th in minutes and playing in every game for a D-I team, which has recently beaten UCLA and Oregon St, is not D-I quality. That is pretty funny.

I think some posters have just shown that they don't have the necessary basketball knowledge to post anything credible on a D-I message board. Time for some of you to drop down to commenting on high school hoops.

You should take a look in the mirror. PR, the problem with you is you live in fantasyland. You actually think people in Griz Athletics like you, when in reality all they do is tolerate you, because they are nice people. When you are not around, believe me, they are not complimenting you. They refer to you as a :loser: As for basketball knowledge, most people have forgotten more than you will ever know about the game.

Haha. You don't even know most of the people I know who associated with Griz athletics. I guess I should be flattered that you spend your time talking about me when you talk to people associated with Griz athletics. You have become a cranky old man. Instead of being the good poster and supporter you once were, you know spend most of your posts saying nasty things and using foul language.
 
Interesting, while listening to pregame with Tinkle, he commented on Stockton. I just tuned in, and may have misinterpreted what he said. Tinkle says come conference play he expects Stockton's role to increase. He did not expand on it.
 
According to Disney legend, Rudy Ruddiger also had a good attitude and no ability. I believe his team handled that situation by not playing him if it at all mattered.
 
scottsgriz said:
According to Disney legend, Rudy Ruddiger also had a good attitude and no ability. I believe his team handled that situation by not playing him if it at all mattered.

:lol: a bit extreme but :lol:
 
Grizbacker1 said:
mtgrizrule said:
Stockton is this years player that is "that guy." That guy coaches says all teams need. He is the perfect complimentary piece to the puzzle. He knows exactly what you will get from him, hustle, ball security, nasty/feisty attitude, sound defense, and leadership. It is also a luxury to have a great locker room guy.

Talent wise he might not be where others are. Until Tinkle gets a 12 deep roster of better recruits, he likes making sure he has a Stockton type every year. Stockton is what he is, and he certainly does not hurt the GRIZ. AS for playing him with Cherry, Cherry is out there for handling pressure defense. Stockton is a good ball distributor, but lacks the quickness to handle intense pressure. Autry and Adams very well have better potential and games, but Tinkle is not just going to give these guys minutes. They have earn the time until they meet his criteria and expectations.

Do not be surprised if Adams or Autry get more minutes as the season moves forward. For the time being, appreciate Stockton as a GRIZ, as Tinkle does. :thumb:

If Autry had the mental toughness Stockton does he would be getting more minutes now. The guys riding the pine should pay attnetion to Mathias Ward. The last 2 games he has come in and made a contribution. Like he said, you have to be ready when your number is called.

Strange too because i thought that was maybe his biggest attribute coing out of highschool.
 
Tinkle also commented on Autry in pregame tonight. He told Mick that Autry is beginning to understand his responsibilities and expectations. Especially a grasp of where to be and what to do as for assignments. To be honest, that is pretty typical of Freshmen players. Jamar is an exception to that though.
 
Maynardsgametrail said:
Sudzilla said:
Stockton never redshirted. He's contributed in one way or another since his Freshman year. Im sure Tinks envisioned more from him in terms of contributing, but the same can be said for lots of recruits, past, present, and future, as not everyone turns out the way you would expect. Its just the nature of the game.

Stockton is a valuable member of the team in more ways than the stat sheet. Every team in America has guys like Shawn, and theyre important contributers to their teams.

When Tinks recruited Shawn he knew he wasnt the fastest, quickest, or most explosive point guard on the planet, but what he did know, was the Shawn was a winner, competitive, and always made the guys around him better. I can safely say that this is still the case today.

Well said. I swear SS redshirted, but I am not 100% sure. I will give you that. I cant believe they played him as a true frosh.

Stockton was activated as a true freshman because the Griz lost PG Ceylon Elgin-Taylor to academic issues after the season had started. At the time Stockton was the only true PG on the roster. In the end AJ was able to move over to the PG position and after missing about a month of action CET was able to regain eligibility by taking classes in the wintersession.
 
Beginning to backtrack on what I said about this guy. SS had a very important role in the last 2 griz victories..........He is playing great and very consistent. Moreover, he is one tough SOB. That kid was all over the floor today diving for loose balls, and was being very agressive (more than I have ever seen). Good Work SS!!!!!! :clap: :thumb:
 
Maynardsgametrail said:
Beginning to backtrack on what I said about this guy. SS had a very important role in the last 2 griz victories..........He is playing great and very consistent. Moreover, he is one tough SOB. That kid was all over the floor today diving for loose balls, and was being very agressive (more than I have ever seen). Good Work SS!!!!!! :clap: :thumb:

Maybe he read this thread and took it as a challenge?
 
He is definitely a guy I would want to have in my foxhole with me with the pressure on. I would take him on my side any day of the week!
 
bigtyme said:
He is definitely a guy I would want to have in my foxhole with me with the pressure on. I would take him on my side any day of the week!

I am going to choose to believe that you meant that in a war scenario.
 
cclarkblues said:
bigtyme said:
He is definitely a guy I would want to have in my foxhole with me with the pressure on. I would take him on my side any day of the week!

I am going to choose to believe that you meant that in a war scenario.

:lol: He's on fire today!
 

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