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SDSU adjustments, 2d half?

Watching the replay it appeared to happen twice, both in the second half. Somebody with the skills should clip it and post it. We all thought we saw it at the time but just didn't understand what was going on - thought there was a penalty or something. But noooo. On the ESPN3 Replay it looks like they just got two 3rd downs.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Buttegrizzle said:
get'em_griz said:
It was a combination of SDSU adjusting and Stitt taking his foot of the gas.

And SDSU getting 5 downs...TWICE!!! Southland Refs SUCK as bad as BSC refs!!! Watch the replay!!!

Holy shit...I completely forgot about that....I saw it once....did it actually happen twice?
Well, I was sure I saw that happen twice, and then thought when the game play announcers didn't say a word, "OK, too many whiskey ditches ...".

Wouldn't the game clock operator say something? Coaches? Players? 14,000 people?
 
If I heard correctly Coach Stitt said that he is not overly bothered by the 3 and outs at start of game and start of second half, as is gives them time to see the adjustments that the other team made and how he can adjust to attack it. I personally would rather see them come out aggressive and make the defense adjust to what he is doing. I think that this offense should dictate the action not always adjust to the action.
 
get'em_griz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Buttegrizzle said:
get'em_griz said:
It was a combination of SDSU adjusting and Stitt taking his foot of the gas.

And SDSU getting 5 downs...TWICE!!! Southland Refs SUCK as bad as BSC refs!!! Watch the replay!!!

Holy shit...I completely forgot about that....I saw it once....did it actually happen twice?

Wait... SDSU actually got 5 downs? Was one because of a penalty, or did the refs literally give them 5 downs?

The refs literally gave them 5 downs. There was a penalty in that sequence, but it was still 5 actual downs of football...
 
Stanley said:
Bjorn Bjornstein said:
Grizzoola said:
Obviously, the Griz O "cooled off" in the 2d half. A reason may be the adjustments the SDSU coaching staff made. I noticed a lot more blitzing, and Nguyen wasn't quite as successful on run plays up the middle. What do you see as the reason(s) for the fall-off in Griz O production in the 2d half? Could this/these be weaknesses that NDSU can exploit in the upcoming game? What say you?

Just the opinion of a pedestrian fan however I saw a lot more blitzing, line stunts, and between the tackles where most of our runs seem to go. The added pressure seemed to hurry Brady and also stymied our run game. We countered with more slant patterns but didn't complete a lot of passes.

YITB

Bjorn I suspected some vision challenges after inspecting your Goat. No offense to your powers of observation ands reporting but you do know the difference bewteen the "A" gap and off-tackle hopefully. JN usually begins most offensive series by diving the A-gap. Love... Your imaginary foil: Steve.

Only an angry near-sighted old goat would see a goat where a llama is! You've also convinced me that you're not a Steve Dill alter ego. He can't stay in character this long. No, the only other poster whose words I've had the displeasure of reading that's your particular style of pompous, insufferable, and long-winded is the debate coach par excellence UMGriz75! :P :P :P
 
Bjorn Bjornstein said:
No, the only other poster whose words I've had the displeasure of reading that's your particular style of pompous, insufferable, and long-winded is the debate coach par excellence UMGriz75!
Don't underestimate yourself. You're no slouch in the pompous, insufferable and long-winded department, especially about your alleged women's/girl's badminton championship run ...
 
AZGrizFan said:
get'em_griz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Buttegrizzle said:
And SDSU getting 5 downs...TWICE!!! Southland Refs SUCK as bad as BSC refs!!! Watch the replay!!!

Holy shit...I completely forgot about that....I saw it once....did it actually happen twice?

Wait... SDSU actually got 5 downs? Was one because of a penalty, or did the refs literally give them 5 downs?

The refs literally gave them 5 downs. There was a penalty in that sequence, but it was still 5 actual downs of football...

After the game I thought the same so I looked at the Play by Play recap on Go Griz.com. The first time it happened was the third quarter and Holmes was called offside on the 3rd down play so they got that one over and then went for it on 4th down and converted. Watching the game I am pretty sure that it was never mentioned and that ESPN did not correct the down and distance on the TV.

The second one was in the 4th quarter on SDSU's last scoring drive. Strahm was called offsides on a 4th and 8 and they got the 1st down on 4th and 3.

Never did see an offside on the cornerback #2 that everyone was talking about??? Thought that happened right before the 4th and 19 score that SDSU had but it does not show it on the play by play.

This is assuming that Go Griz is correct although I am not sure how they would show it if a team actually got 5 downs.
 
UMGriz75 said:
Bjorn Bjornstein said:
No, the only other poster whose words I've had the displeasure of reading that's your particular style of pompous, insufferable, and long-winded is the debate coach par excellence UMGriz75!
Don't underestimate yourself. You're no slouch in the pompous, insufferable and long-winded department, especially about your alleged women's/girl's badminton championship run ...

Ha! Good one Stanley...women's/girl's badminton championship humor never gets old! :P :P :P
 
It's a simple fact that Brady had his periods of not being very sharp; it appeared to me that the cold was bothering him. 3Q was abysmal.

Had Stitt deferred the won flip at the start of the game, we would have had the ball to start 3Q and it might have been different. 90+% of coaches defer; this decision seemingly made by the OC, not the HC.
 
kemajic said:
It's a simple fact that Brady had his periods of not being very sharp; it appeared to me that the cold was bothering him. 3Q was abysmal.

Had Stitt deferred the won flip at the start of the game, we would have had the ball to start 3Q and it might have been different. 90+% of coaches defer; this decision seemingly made by the OC, not the HC.

I agree Brady looked very uncomfortable in the second half. Kind of like he didn't want to make that one mistake that costs the game. Presumably the offense just needed to move the chains. Nothing more or nothing less. I think If Stitt wants the ball to begin the game he better have a 15-20 play script that can move the ball. So far I haven't seen that in his offense.

Go Griz!
 
As I posted in the NDSU game thread, it would be nice to see something new in the third, like, I don't know, come out in a wildcat the first series with Lucas running and Jamal Wilson lead blocking, or an empty backfield. A pitch? A gadget play involving Schmang reporting as an eligible receiver in a TE spot (ok maybe not that). But sumpin unexpected just to screw with their D coordinator.
 
Am I the only one who thought that maybe the shadows in the stadium were bothering Brady on his throws early in the second half? I could barely see the receivers he was trying to throw to from my vantage point in the sun.
 
kemajic said:
It's a simple fact that Brady had his periods of not being very sharp; it appeared to me that the cold was bothering him. 3Q was abysmal.

Had Stitt deferred the won flip at the start of the game, we would have had the ball to start 3Q and it might have been different. 90+% of coaches defer; this decision seemingly made by the OC, not the HC.


Always take the ball if you win the flip...assured of the same and maybe one more possession.
 
mikewphoto said:
Am I the only one who thought that maybe the shadows in the stadium were bothering Brady on his throws early in the second half? I could barely see the receivers he was trying to throw to from my vantage point in the sun.
I was impressed at how bad the light/shadow combinations can get in the late season in a stadium like that. Seems like going to a run game would be a priority at some point in the day there.
 
mikewphoto wrote:

Am I the only one who thought that maybe the shadows in the stadium were bothering Brady on his throws early in the second half? I could barely see the receivers he was trying to throw to from my vantage point in the sun.

It was even difficult to adjust to the shadows and low sun watching the game, let alone playing in it. That became evident early in the game when a punt bounced off a SDSU returner's facemask. :oops:
 
Shade, Sun, Cold and with a record small crowd Strange play calls and throws way way high and far far off by Brady made for a maddening second half. Then out of the cold John runs the ball like a man possesed and the best defense can't stop him, or us. We go on to win and with 4 or 5 min. left in the game we win going away!

My view? Penalties of the dumb kind and odd missed throws by Brady along with the don't attack offense we went into all were the evil that caused us to not win by much more. However we won the game and looked very good in the first half. If we play like the first half... we win again in the Fargo Dome and look good doing it!
 
mikewphoto said:
Am I the only one who thought that maybe the shadows in the stadium were bothering Brady on his throws early in the second half? I could barely see the receivers he was trying to throw to from my vantage point in the sun.

As MsMaroon I believe had mentioned. The sun was glaring that day. We could easily see the huge ripples in the turf from the NEZ looking South. Spent midway through 3rd qtr with one hand up blocking the sun so I could see and that is with a pretty decent pair of Costa's. Dunno what the sun did or didn't effect on certain play calls but as a fan, it was certainly inhibiting our ability to see that direction.
 
Bjorn Bjornstein said:
Stanley said:
Bjorn Bjornstein said:
Grizzoola said:
Obviously, the Griz O "cooled off" in the 2d half. A reason may be the adjustments the SDSU coaching staff made. I noticed a lot more blitzing, and Nguyen wasn't quite as successful on run plays up the middle. What do you see as the reason(s) for the fall-off in Griz O production in the 2d half? Could this/these be weaknesses that NDSU can exploit in the upcoming game? What say you?

Just the opinion of a pedestrian fan however I saw a lot more blitzing, line stunts, and between the tackles where most of our runs seem to go. The added pressure seemed to hurry Brady and also stymied our run game. We countered with more slant patterns but didn't complete a lot of passes.

YITB

Bjorn I suspected some vision challenges after inspecting your Goat. No offense to your powers of observation ands reporting but you do know the difference bewteen the "A" gap and off-tackle hopefully. JN usually begins most offensive series by diving the A-gap. Love... Your imaginary foil: Steve.

Only an angry near-sighted old goat would see a goat where a llama is! You've also convinced me that you're not a Steve Dill alter ego. He can't stay in character this long. No, the only other poster whose words I've had the displeasure of reading that's your particular style of pompous, insufferable, and long-winded is the debate coach par excellence UMGriz75! :P :P :P

THANKS Bjorn, I needed to be taken down a notch. Dogone eyes aren't what they used to be. Don't think playing in a leather helmet helped either. Pleased you finally accept reality regarding your buddy SD. Would it be pompous for me to suggest it's YOU that have an anger problem? Including UMGriz 75 in your rant seems unecessary and a tad bit immature. FYI, the "A" gap is between the center and guard old buddy. ;)
 
mikewphoto said:
Am I the only one who thought that maybe the shadows in the stadium were bothering Brady on his throws early in the second half? I could barely see the receivers he was trying to throw to from my vantage point in the sun.
No.
My other question - the sun. It was low hanging and fiercely bright; I was having trouble seeing the field in the 3rd quarter - I'm on the north end of the east side & in the 4th row - and the Griz were facing the sun that whole time. By the time the fourth quarter rolled around, the sun had set and it couldn't have been an issue for SDSU. I know it shouldn't matter, but seriously . . . how well can anybody see the field with the sun in their eyes??
 
I am hoping that part of the conservative playing calling in the 2nd half was because we are going to see some big, new plays next Saturday. Perhaps, Stitt was trying to keep people from getting hurt (besides Nguyen maybe?). Also, as others have mentioned, the low sun could not have made it easy to have a passing game.
 
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