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Scrimmage #2 thoughts

mtgrizrule said:
Fat Bruno said:
So Gustafson's problem in the last game of last season was lack of comfort with his receivers? If that's the case, I think maybe they need more slumber parties.
But, personally, I'm not feeling any panic, just some uneasy questions about things that seem perpetually unresolved.

No, he and the whole offense had a terrible game. As would most offenses with a talented defense being tipped off and knowing the snap count. Credit NDSU for picking up on that and utilizing their home field advantage. Offenses and qb's will have bad games, now and then. My point is. It is common for offenses to struggle earlier in the season. Just watch the shit show offenses in preseason NFL games. Even at the highest level of football, defenses have a huge early season advantage over offenses. Offenses more than likely become more consistent as the season progresses. Yes, there are exceptions at all levels. Yes, a qb may struggle in late season game too. That usually happens when the matchup against a superior defense.

Honestly, we hear the same things over and over every preseason. Fortunately, the GRIZ usually prove the naysayers wrong. Thank God, GRIZ coaches and players have better attitudes and more common sense than some of the egrizzers.

Some good points are made here. Yes the bison did know the snap count and that gave them an edge on every offensive play. This resulted in the QB being rushed and pressured more. That could have contributed to the interceptions. Don't forget the bison had a bye week and had two weeks to prepare for the Griz. In addition the game was a home game for the bison since it was played in Fargo's Dome.
I am not sure the scrimmage is a true indication of how our offense will preform. I guess we will find out in a month or so.
 
Does it hinder the O that they are seeing new defensive schemes since Semore took over, or should they be getting used to those by now?
 
There are only three real questions for the season. (1) will the kids needed to fill in the gaps step up, (2) have the O-line concerns of last year been addressed, & (3) are the QB's going to be ready?

By all reports, seems as if the players that will need to assume greater roles are doing so. Not sure about the O-line given there's a mix & match thing going on now. As for the QB's, who knows. Not comforting to hear that there are still issues with sailing throws, productivity in the red zone, and with who will be #2. Having a great defense won't be a burden.
 
The only question I have about the Griz going forward, are any Freshmen going to play this year? Sounds like that could be a tough choice with a couple wr's.
 
Lets fire the offensive coach and be done with it? Nope, not anytime soon.

Gus, when he is in a game and he gets hurried, harried, frustrated and sacked he tends to toss overloads and becomes wild. His last game, he was hurt and continued to get hit and hurried and threw high and wild. Granted the fact he does have that issue but Stitt believes he can get Gus to control that problem. I still have faith in Stitt and I (like the rest of you) will have to wait and see if he can get Gus rolling.

The O line seems to be able to run block better. That is great news. The pass protection should improve as we move forward and if it does we will have a very good team.

Remember all the over excited nuts that were worried about our kicking/punting?
 
doc3kgt said:
Soooo, Defense is good and the all-world innovative Slitt offense sucks ass. So basically 2015 repeated. No need to worry too much though, you might get past weber this year and get lucky again against ISU!

The Griz didn't need any luck in the last 3 beat downs of the kittens by 14,27 and 19 points. You sir are a dumb ass!
 
PhxGriz said:
Does it hinder the O that they are seeing new defensive schemes since Semore took over, or should they be getting used to those by now?
Let's hope not since they will see a new defensive scheme every week and they've been practicing against this one for a few weeks.
 
Fat Bruno said:
So Gustafson's problem in the last game of last season was lack of comfort with his receivers? If that's the case, I think maybe they need more slumber parties.
But, personally, I'm not feeling any panic, just some uneasy questions about things that seem perpetually unresolved.
He was equally awful in the second half of the SDSU game, so it was the last six quarters of last year that the offense and the QB were bloody awful. It will take a good performance against UNI to forget it.
 
havgrizfan said:
doc3kgt said:
Soooo, Defense is good and the all-world innovative Slitt offense sucks ass. So basically 2015 repeated. No need to worry too much though, you might get past weber this year and get lucky again against ISU!

Yeah, you're the dude that posted that you actually would rather the Cats go 5-6 and not make the playoffs than have to play and lose to NDSU in the playoffs. So, your football IQ and credibility isn't exactly very good on here, or even BN for that matter.

I was just about to ask him how the Cats are looking (even though we all know they always look like shit), but if he actually said the above, I feel bad even poking fun at him.
 
mtgrizrule said:
How do we know football season is about here? Rival fans come out from under their rocks with smoking guns. EGRIZ Einsteins (experts) call one another out for not knowing or not playing the game. Many egrizzers bitch about how bad our #1 QB is, how bad our OL is, etc. Even more ironic, the Egrizzer who used to do this all the time is actually pretty tame these days, compared to some on here.

Some of you need to relax. Every year the defense has a huge advantage over the offense as the preseason practices advance. It does not take very ong for defenders to know QB cadence, audibles, coaching signals, player to player eye contact, tells, etc. Hell, even back to high school preseason football, freshman and sophomore defenders can sniff an offensive play out after defending it so many times! All it takes is for an intelligent defender to pay consistent attention to the signals, audibles, etc to be consistently effective against the offense. It is amazing how well under classman defenders look during the preseason against their own offense. It is even magnified for upper classman defenders.

The true test for every team is when they play regular season games. Chances are very likely, qb and OL play will be much better as the season progresses. Also keep in mind, when a QB is getting acclimated to a new set of WR's playing key roles, it takes time to get on the same page with those new WR's. Other than Horner, Gustafson has very little experience playing with this WR group. I fully expect there to be growing pains in the passing game early in the season. There will be some inconsistencies in the passing game. As the season progresses, the timing and knowledge of each WR's skills will be improved. I will take Stitt's word over any egrizzer as to Gustafson's capabilities. I am pretty comfortable where this team is at right now. I also am confident most the naysayers here will yet be proven wrong again by the time the regular season ends and Gustafson leads a peaking offense into a solid playoff run.

Come on people, everything will be just fine. Have some patience and common sense before panicking over preseason practices and scrimmages.

Thank You! Relax ego-maniacs! Everything will fall into place! And if it doesn't, the last thing any of those players or coaches will be thinking about is the pontificating that goes on with the goof balls who frequent this sight!
 
Consistency at the QB position is huge, and as of right now, I just don't see it. Currently, I think the offensive results will be similar to last season. Hello PR!
 
Well, I don't buy that Gustafson only overthrows when he's under pressure although it's obviously worse then, but if that's the case, then we have merely shifted the problem to one of being able to handle pressure and to learn not to throw the bad pass or interception in that condition. It's basic for a quarterback to know when to eat the ball or throw it away safely. It goes back to him being a senior and wondering if after this much experience he can improve in that area. Seems if it hasn't happened yet, it may not happen.
 
Fat Bruno said:
Well, I don't buy that Gustafson only overthrows when he's under pressure although it's obviously worse then, but if that's the case, then we have merely shifted the problem to one of being able to handle pressure and to learn not to throw the bad pass or interception in that condition. It's basic for a quarterback to know when to eat the ball or throw it away safely. It goes back to him being a senior and wondering if after this much experience he can improve in that area. Seems if it hasn't happened yet, it may not happen.

He has 7 career starts.
 
mtgrizrule said:
As would most offenses with a talented defense being tipped off and knowing the snap count.
Wouldn't an experienced coach have either anticipated that, or caught on during the game? Who uses the same snap count for an entire game? Just us?
 
It's not snap count. Your QB signals the guard, and the guard taps the center, and the center snaps the ball. It wasn't rocket science. There was nothin discreet about it, and I know you did it for some of the final games of the season. I assume Stitt was just doing it to counter the noise, and he's arrogant enough to think that it doesn't matter if the D knows when you're snapping the ball because they can't stop you anyway. Of course this was true against us because our defense was shitty.
 
poorgriz said:
It's not snap count. Your QB signals the guard, and the guard taps the center, and the center snaps the ball. It wasn't rocket science. There was nothin discreet about it, and I know you did it for some of the final games of the season. I assume Stitt was just doing it to counter the noise, and he's arrogant enough to think that it doesn't matter if the D knows when you're snapping the ball because they can't stop you anyway. Of course this was true against us because our defense was shitty.

You have that last part right. I've never seen a more embarrassing unit. This year, I think they might get marginally better, but the offense sucks and has no QB. Could we possibly see another 0-fer in Bozeman this year? It's not impossible. 3-8 is my prediction. Maybe a few 3-8 seasons will lead to them finally canceling the program like the should have done years ago. It's a drain on the local economy with absolutely no redeeming qualities. There is no reason the state should keep running that charity.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
poorgriz said:
It's not snap count. Your QB signals the guard, and the guard taps the center, and the center snaps the ball. It wasn't rocket science. There was nothin discreet about it, and I know you did it for some of the final games of the season. I assume Stitt was just doing it to counter the noise, and he's arrogant enough to think that it doesn't matter if the D knows when you're snapping the ball because they can't stop you anyway. Of course this was true against us because our defense was shitty.

You have that last part right. I've never seen a more embarrassing unit. This year, I think they might get marginally better, but the offense sucks and has no QB. Could we possibly see another 0-fer in Bozeman this year? It's not impossible. 3-8 is my prediction. Maybe a few 3-8 seasons will lead to them finally canceling the program like the should have done years ago. It's a drain on the local economy with absolutely no redeeming qualities. There is no reason the state should keep running that charity.

Poorgriz, honest question here, and totally football related, with no Montana State/Montana smack intended. My question is, do you think Beau Baldwin is a good football coach?
 
havgrizfan said:
CDAGRIZ said:
poorgriz said:
It's not snap count. Your QB signals the guard, and the guard taps the center, and the center snaps the ball. It wasn't rocket science. There was nothin discreet about it, and I know you did it for some of the final games of the season. I assume Stitt was just doing it to counter the noise, and he's arrogant enough to think that it doesn't matter if the D knows when you're snapping the ball because they can't stop you anyway. Of course this was true against us because our defense was shitty.

You have that last part right. I've never seen a more embarrassing unit. This year, I think they might get marginally better, but the offense sucks and has no QB. Could we possibly see another 0-fer in Bozeman this year? It's not impossible. 3-8 is my prediction. Maybe a few 3-8 seasons will lead to them finally canceling the program like the should have done years ago. It's a drain on the local economy with absolutely no redeeming qualities. There is no reason the state should keep running that charity.

Poorgriz, honest question here, and totally football related, with no Montana State/Montana smack intended. My question is, do you think Beau Baldwin is a good football coach?

Yes
 
Spanky said:
CDA....they may keep their football program, but likely in the Frontier Conference.

I know you're kidding, but that actually might make a lot of sense. They could be competitive. The subsidy issue would remain, however. Maybe they could go the club route.
 
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