Scrimmage #1 recap

[SaskGriz]

I thought when the offense looked good the defense was a disaster and when the defense played well the offense showed nothing. We couldn't run the ball which means our OL is terrible, or our DL is great. At times the QB's looked like it was their first time all year facing a live defence.

On a larger note, the ST is terrible, Coach Stitt's offence will not work at the FCS level and we should can him, blow it up and somehow talk Coach Hauck into returning, we desperately need a drop down DB or 2, and at least one should be as good as Tru Johnson. We have no DOLA (whatever the hell that means). Engstrom is a weenie. Coach Delaney was a doddering old fool who shouldn't be allowed the keys to his own car, let alone the CADILLAC that is/was the Griz program. We haven't been relevant since 2009 (despite playing in the National semi-final in 2011).

And we did have a few drops in the first scrimmage of the year.

 

[bgbigdog]

I thought when the offense looked good the defense was a disaster and when the defense played well the offense showed nothing. We couldn't run the ball which means our OL is terrible, or our DL is great. At times the QB's looked like it was their first time all year facing a live defence.

On a larger note, the ST is terrible, Coach Stitt's offence will not work at the FCS level and we should can him, blow it up and somehow talk Coach Hauck into returning, we desperately need a drop down DB or 2, and at least one should be as good as Tru Johnson. We have no DOLA (whatever the hell that means). Engstrom is a weenie. Coach Delaney was a doddering old fool who shouldn't be allowed the keys to his own car, let alone the CADILLAC that is/was the Griz program. We haven't been relevant since 2009 (despite playing in the National semi-final in 2011).

And we did have a few drops in the first scrimmage of the year.

Clearly, someone's been watching their dog run away most of the last week. :lol:

 

[griz5700]

- QB's.. If the first read wasn't there they were scrambling. Guess what guys, they aren't that fast..

Is that compared to BG?

Don't be obsessive.

Too bad none of these QBs have the arm strength or vision of BG.

Guessing you weren't at scrimmage.

It was a legit question. Let's just hope one turns out to be the leader the offense has lacked the last couple years. And to be honest, I hope they have better vision than BG.

BG stuck in the pocket, and took a lot of big hits doing so. So compared to BG, these guys have a ways to go.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Is that compared to BG?

Don't be obsessive.

Too bad none of these QBs have the arm strength or vision of BG.

Guessing you weren't at scrimmage.

It was a legit question. Let's just hope one turns out to be the leader the offense has lacked the last couple years. And to be honest, I hope they have better vision than BG.

BG stuck in the pocket, and took a lot of big hits doing so. So compared to BG, these guys have a ways to go.

Not quite sure what that has to do with A) my question about comparable speed, B) about being the leader, and C) having good vision.

 

[Catsrback76]

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Being a hard-ass here, but that effort/talent is unacceptable. You gotta catch that. It's gotta be natural for you/instinct.

This is why UM needs to recruit receivers that are mainly recruited by colleges to play receiver, and not players that were recruited by the Air Force to play safety (Eaton, Curran).

Sorry, but it was a blown play all the way around. Bad pass, bad effort on the WR and the defence had it smelled out from the start. Throw it away, go on to the next play, or throw an INT to the Cats...which is your best option! :lol:

 

[griz5700]

Don't be obsessive.

Too bad none of these QBs have the arm strength or vision of BG.

Guessing you weren't at scrimmage.

It was a legit question. Let's just hope one turns out to be the leader the offense has lacked the last couple years. And to be honest, I hope they have better vision than BG.

BG stuck in the pocket, and took a lot of big hits doing so. So compared to BG, these guys have a ways to go.

Not quite sure what that has to do with A) my question about comparable speed, B) about being the leader, and C) having good vision.

I think I answered most of your questions. But ok.

Speed: none of the current qbs have great speed. Phillips was chased down from behind multiple times by DT's on Friday. Are they faster than BG? Yeah. But being strong and composed in the pocket is far more important than scrambling abilities in this offense.
Leadership: I don't get into this. It sounds like an excuse for others not making plays. Guys have to be accountable. Was poor oline and receiver play because (you think) BG was a "poor leader"? If so, Stitt is recruiting the wrong guys.
Vision: it's early. I assume these qbs will improve here.

 

[brewskis]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ShaunRainey/status/850494976286900224[/tweet]

Being a hard-ass here, but that effort/talent is unacceptable. You gotta catch that. It's gotta be natural for you/instinct.

This is why UM needs to recruit receivers that are mainly recruited by colleges to play receiver, and not players that were recruited by the Air Force to play safety (Eaton, Curran).

Sorry, but it was a blown play all the way around. Bad pass, bad effort on the WR and the defence had it smelled out from the start. Throw it away, go on to the next play, or throw an INT to the Cats...which is your best option! :lol:

QB was flushed, the WR did a good job of moving with the QB and the pass was on the money. Just a drop.


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[HelenaHandBasket]

It was a legit question. Let's just hope one turns out to be the leader the offense has lacked the last couple years. And to be honest, I hope they have better vision than BG.

BG stuck in the pocket, and took a lot of big hits doing so. So compared to BG, these guys have a ways to go.

Not quite sure what that has to do with A) my question about comparable speed, B) about being the leader, and C) having good vision.

I think I answered most of your questions. But ok.

Speed: none of the current qbs have great speed. Phillips was chased down from behind multiple times by DT's on Friday. Are they faster than BG? Yeah. But being strong and composed in the pocket is far more important than scrambling abilities in this offense.
Leadership: I don't get into this. It sounds like an excuse for others not making plays. Guys have to be accountable. Was poor oline and receiver play because (you think) BG was a "poor leader"? If so, Stitt is recruiting the wrong guys.
Vision: it's early. I assume these qbs will improve here.

Actually, I don't think BG was a leader at all. Next, I never said the QB needs to be Fran Tarkenton, but BG's complete inability to move, which is why he stood in the pocket, was a liability. You really want to know why JLM had a billion balls thrown his way...it was because BG just started dumping the ball to him so he wouldn't get hit anymore. Pretty difficult to talk up him standing in the pocket, when all he did at the end of the year was get rid of the ball as fast as he could. And I get it, the OL was terrible, but that doesn't mean that BG was better.

 

[griz5700]

Do you understand this offense?

 

[Grizzwold]

Sounds like the DB's should play both ways since they're catching the ball more than the recievers. :thumb:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Do you understand this offense?

I am beginning to wonder if you understand the English language with some of your posts, at least I question your level of comprehension, and maybe even think your feelers are getting hurt.

 

[SaskGriz]

I thought when the offense looked good the defense was a disaster and when the defense played well the offense showed nothing. We couldn't run the ball which means our OL is terrible, or our DL is great. At times the QB's looked like it was their first time all year facing a live defence.

On a larger note, the ST is terrible, Coach Stitt's offence will not work at the FCS level and we should can him, blow it up and somehow talk Coach Hauck into returning, we desperately need a drop down DB or 2, and at least one should be as good as Tru Johnson. We have no DOLA (whatever the hell that means). Engstrom is a weenie. Coach Delaney was a doddering old fool who shouldn't be allowed the keys to his own car, let alone the CADILLAC that is/was the Griz program. We haven't been relevant since 2009 (despite playing in the National semi-final in 2011).

And we did have a few drops in the first scrimmage of the year.

Clearly, someone's been watching their dog run away most of the last week. :lol:

It's so flat here, I've seen most of tomorrow since yesterday.

 

[griz5700]

Do you understand this offense?

I am beginning to wonder if you understand the English language with some of your posts, at least I question your level of comprehension, and maybe even think your feelers are getting hurt.

haha. What? My feelings? My level of comprehension? I guarantee you my intelligence is a few clicks above yours bud.

I simply asked if you understand this offense.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

5700, we agree on quite a few things, but BG just isn't one of them.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

haha. What? My feelings? My level of comprehension? I guarantee you my intelligence is a few clicks above yours bud.

I simply asked if you understand this offense.

Yes, I do. And all your statement guarantees is your ego and level of delusion are a few clicks above mine, not your intelligence. Chew on that.

 

[Paytonlives]

It's going to be a long Summer on egriz...

Geez...

 

[Grizzly96]

Do you understand this offense?

I understand this offense quite well. I think that you are trying to say that the QBs have to stay in the pocket in order to get to the second and third reads if first isn't there. You would be correct. That is an important part of this offensive scheme. However, with the OL last year and the current state of the OL this year, mobility of our QB will be needed. Two of them showed that ability quite well, "speed" is not needed, ability to avoid rush and extend play is. I get it, you liked BG, but at least two of these QBs with some more reps show potential to lead this offense.

 

[fanofzoo]

I believe that Jensen has JJ speed if it comes to tucking the ball and running, I am happy with that. Also it looks like he has the attitude to want to take someone on.... 6'2" 215 and acts like it.

Reclaiming the lost third of offense.

 

[PlayerRep]

My view is that BG was a good leader, and stood in the pocket well, not just because he was not mobile. That's how he played. His 40 time and shuttle drills times were pretty good at pro day. I don't know why he wasn't more consistent, because at times, he was very accurate in most of his passes.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

It's just a guess, but maybe the lack of running game was to get the QBs more throws to better assess their ability and build their confidence throwing the ball.


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