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Schmaing academically inelligble
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Thank you all for mansplaining this to us. :lol:
BigPawzSharpClawz
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GREAT FANS!!!
Way to kick a guy in the nutz when he's down. Family comes first everyday of my life & if this kid ended up not making his grades due to taking care of and worrying about his sick mother, then he should be supported by us not made to be a villain or at fault.
Any one who feels differently can suck farts as far as I am concerned. You all who are beating this young man down should be ashamed of yourself for attacking him I am embarrassed for all of you who think its alright to do this type of crap to someone else kid. All of you who have criticized him are an embarrassment, if we were friends before consider us unfriendly as of right frickin now.
JOHN every moment that you have given to us as fans of UM I greatly appreciate. We supported you when you could be on the field and I personally am choosing to support you while you are temporarily away from it. I chose to support the JOHN SCHMAING FAMILY rather than sniper from the shadows and claim what someone should do under difficulty and personal duress.
Hang in there John and don't listen to these small minded so called know it all's on eGriz.
Way to kick a guy in the nutz when he's down. Family comes first everyday of my life & if this kid ended up not making his grades due to taking care of and worrying about his sick mother, then he should be supported by us not made to be a villain or at fault.
Any one who feels differently can suck farts as far as I am concerned. You all who are beating this young man down should be ashamed of yourself for attacking him I am embarrassed for all of you who think its alright to do this type of crap to someone else kid. All of you who have criticized him are an embarrassment, if we were friends before consider us unfriendly as of right frickin now.
JOHN every moment that you have given to us as fans of UM I greatly appreciate. We supported you when you could be on the field and I personally am choosing to support you while you are temporarily away from it. I chose to support the JOHN SCHMAING FAMILY rather than sniper from the shadows and claim what someone should do under difficulty and personal duress.
Hang in there John and don't listen to these small minded so called know it all's on eGriz.
He was confronted with serious life-threatening medical issues with both parents and had to make choices. Those blasting him here suggest he made bad choices; I'm not so sure. It was hoped that his summer work and the hardship appeal would enable him to play, so he was allowed to participate in fall camp. The rejection had to be a surprise to all involved; obviously, the NCAA is no friend of UM.go96griz said:
Ken Jones
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Some young man don't have the academic, time management or study skills to succeed @ university.
If these young men were assess on their academic skill sets as well as their athletic skill sets, a quarter of the team wouldn't make the cut. Another quarter would be hangin' on by the skin of their teeth. For the bottom 50%, remedial classes should be mandatory. Additionally, a player development coordinator should be assigned to the team.
Proactive monitoring of players would lead to identifying potential problems before players' individual personal challenges had a negative impact on the team.
If the program is goin' to spend money to get 'em to Montana, then the program should spend money to keep 'em in Montana.
If these young men were assess on their academic skill sets as well as their athletic skill sets, a quarter of the team wouldn't make the cut. Another quarter would be hangin' on by the skin of their teeth. For the bottom 50%, remedial classes should be mandatory. Additionally, a player development coordinator should be assigned to the team.
Proactive monitoring of players would lead to identifying potential problems before players' individual personal challenges had a negative impact on the team.
If the program is goin' to spend money to get 'em to Montana, then the program should spend money to keep 'em in Montana.
Good question, PR. Plus it seems like a moving target if you are enrolled in summer school attempting to qualify.PlayerRep said:
Some people can manage what life throws at them and some can't. Some people can take advantage of the opportunities that come their way and some can't. The young man was given an opportunity and for whatever reason couldn't seem to manage it when he was challenged. I'm sure there are plenty of honorable excuses, but still and all it is a team sport so the team pays the price, but an opportunity arises for someone else and on it goes. Not the end of the world, but the young man was looked to as a leader.
I would like to personally apologize for sounding like a dick on the subject. I was more reacting to the fact that people seemed to be making excuses for the kid than holding him responsible for his actions. However, knowing more now, I can not blame someone for having their family come first. I am disappointed in the fact that the team will suffer, but some things are more important. My next question would be why an appeal in this situation was lost? Oh well, NCAA all the way, right?
dupuyer griz said:
The most likley reason an appeal like this would fail, is because despite his personal problems, he managed to play a full season of football, winter conditioning and participated in spring ball while also participating in football activities. I agree family is first, but the NCAAs position appears to be, he put playing ball ahead of academics.............. decisions are difficult, but I image had he had to withdraw for a time from athletics, his hardship appeal may have had more steam........
While I am not certain of this particular committee's make up at many levels in the NCAA the appeals committee is most often academics. iwould hope they could ask the committee to reconsider as I agree If Linda took the appeal forward the kid was poorly represented.
statler & waldorf
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For those of you who graduated from college, whatever your major, wasn't the first two years much easier than the last two years? A bunch of 100 and 200 level classes to give you a general education BEFORE you got into the meat of your major. If you became academically ineligible after taking these bunny courses, what makes you think one could pull himself up by his own boots and get it together for the 300 and 400 level courses.
Interesting points of view from all, my college career did not even begin until I was in my mid thirties and I barely graduated from high school. As a whole I am amazed at how many kids are successful in college. I eventually earned a masters degree and taught for 13 years before health issues forced an early retirement.
Personally I found the first two years extremely difficult for a returning student. Thankfully both schools I attended provided resources for struggling students. The additional problem I had the first two years was filling in all the required classes, which were, by and large, boring as hell. The final two years I was at least taking classes I had an interest in, thus making them "easier". Grad school was difficult only in the amount of hours needed to succeed. All the classes were in my field of interest and thanks to the BA I had a base knowledge to bolster my studying.
BTW I learned that, for me, I could only work about 35 hours a week and still get all my work done. I knew several folks who worked more hours plus had families and I still cannot fathom how they pulled it off.
Anyway my rant is over, give the kid the benefit of the doubt, sounds like he was trying to juggle one too many balls to succeed in school.
Personally I found the first two years extremely difficult for a returning student. Thankfully both schools I attended provided resources for struggling students. The additional problem I had the first two years was filling in all the required classes, which were, by and large, boring as hell. The final two years I was at least taking classes I had an interest in, thus making them "easier". Grad school was difficult only in the amount of hours needed to succeed. All the classes were in my field of interest and thanks to the BA I had a base knowledge to bolster my studying.
BTW I learned that, for me, I could only work about 35 hours a week and still get all my work done. I knew several folks who worked more hours plus had families and I still cannot fathom how they pulled it off.
Anyway my rant is over, give the kid the benefit of the doubt, sounds like he was trying to juggle one too many balls to succeed in school.
rollo_tumasi said:
Admittedly, I don't know all of the facts, but I'm having a hard time understanding how MSU's Foster won his appeal, yet Schmaing lost his appeal. Foster got injured last year and basically failed out. Schmaing steps up for family reasons and has similar results. Can anybody explain the difference?
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